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Better Dead Than Youtube Red

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posted on Sep, 28 2017 @ 11:31 PM
This is more of a prediction really. But it's more common sense than prophecy so it's here for chit-chat.

I watch a lot of youtube. Traditional cable is on the way out and more people are viewing through steaming, slingbox devices, and sites like youtube.

But how long before these cheaper, more convenient alternatives become the new face of the evil media empires so many people are attempting to flee from?

Often while watching youtube, a video will freeze for no apparent reason and youtube has a handy little message that says "Experiencing interruptions? Click here to find out why."

Admittedly, I never clicked. I know the reason why. YOU, tube, you interrupted my video. Funny how I never see ads interrupted in between videos.

And now they're pushing Youtube Red pretty damn hard. Not a video goes by without that little pop-up asking me if I want to try ad-free experience, or sign up for a free trial.

The push is there, and it can only mean one thing.

With traditional cable dying, the alternatives are poised to leap on the carcass, that is we, the consumers.

I see sites like youtube waiting for just the right moment to introduce either paid membership only or some sort of pay hierarchy. I think services like Netflix and Hulu and so forth will soon see rises in their subscription prices. I think once cable is dead for sure, the new bank breakers will be ready to step in.

The alternatives of today will become the new monopolies that hit us right in the wallet of tomorrow.

I think in the next 5-10 years we will see youtube transform into pay-only content, while the prices of Netflix etc. will significantly increase.

It's coming.

In a statement sent to Business Insider, a YouTube spokesperson said: "We’re pleased with momentum behind YouTube Red and we’re seeing healthy growth of members each month. While we don't release or comment on speculative numbers, we’re seeing strong engagement of the service in the four countries we’ve launched, leading us to invest in more originals series and movies for 2017 and increased marketing of YouTube Music."

posted on Sep, 28 2017 @ 11:40 PM
YouTube is already dead. People are jumping ship and moving to twitch where they can get more money deserved to them by having fans donate directly to them. YouTube is now demonetizing videos known as Adpocalypse, without creators YouTube is done and dead in the water.

People came to YouTube so they can keep away from Ads. Now you have to watch up to 6 of them in a half hour video. My Adblock doesn’t even block the ads anymore on my phone.

Once people get fed up with the Ads enough and the commercialism that is YouTube they’ll move to another platform until that one gets too powerful. The internet is a great place where that can happen for now.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 12:25 AM
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

I had youtube red for awhile.. It lets you download anything you want from youtube.

this imcludes full albums of everything ive ever searched for in google music..

it comes with youtube radio.. it has a lot of cool functions that basically make it a much better pandora.. and i put like 2,000 songs on my phone from it..

and of course i havnt seen any ads.

youtube TV is a different thing. Thats live TV..
HULU live is like that as well and it IS the cable companies..

the power shifts around. Whoever wants to win the game just needs servers and enough data transfer.. you can stream anything through fiberoptics..

google will be moving in as an ISP..

its all morphing and changing..

Ill go wherever ads are completely blocked. That service will not be as cheap but it will be less infiltrated.

the local cable company was ripping everyone off hardcore.. I guess they got bought out and now its 50$ after all fees and taxes for 100Mbps internet..

I like the added competition Im seeing..

I know of like 5 online live TV providers.. But for me I have no purpose for live TV anymore. Id rather have backlogged on demand content. My options on that front are growing.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 01:28 AM
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

how do people think the universe progress; what do you think the natural progression of YouTube would be? not in an alternate universe, but this one?

do you think YouTube red will not one day be a 'version' of Netflix with a slight twist, and Netflix will be solely producing movies when its steam runs out.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 04:04 AM

There is a media conglomerate here in Australia known as 'Fox', perhaps you've heard of it?
Anyway, Fox here in Australia sell a subscription pay TV service known as Foxtel.

Once upon a time, you used to only get Ads between shows or movies that advertised only other of their own channels and their content.

Now, you've got ads during shows (not sure about movies, haven't seen it in such a long time) and they aren't restricted to their own content, regular normal ads.

I fully expect to see (if it survives) YouTube to move through a similar method.
They have YouTube Red now which says Ad free... Sure... For now... Until they realize all the ad revenue their losing over the YTRed subscription price (if more users jump on board).
Then you'll likely see them jump subscription models like;
YouTube Red (Defacto Pay Service - Ads only between major content)
YouTube Premium (No Ads Ever - Previously known as YouTube Red)

Mark my words... It will happen.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 06:07 AM
I've heard people gripe a thousand times about ads here on ATS, Youtube, having to see so many so often, etc...but I never get them. Why is that? I have 3 apps on my browser to block all that crap and that's really the only thing I can think of. I have CCleaner, Disconnect and AdblockPlus. Adblock is turned off on ATS, but all the others are active and I never, e.v.e.r. see ads here or on Youtube.
I don't think we'll see an end to "regular" TV because there are many out there who are just not that interested in...well, "computer stuff" is how I've heard it described. I told them they don't have to go out and buy a computer, all you need is the internet and wifi, but they are happy paying outlandish fees for what they watch. I enjoy the low rates that Netflix and Hulu have and a once per year price for Amazon still comes out less than $10 a month and includes free 2 day shipping. Even if they raise prices by $5 or more, it's still cheaper than Dish or the other cable and satellite companies.
Dish for one year was $1560 [ $130 per month ]
Amazon Prime, Netflix and Hulu cost me $339 a year.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 09:19 AM
The only problem I have encountered so far is APPs..

Alot of the good APPs say you "MUST" have a satellite or cable connection for them to work.

Hulu and /or netflix or Sling t.v. are not providers so you basically can't watch anything current.

I'm sticking with Sprectum for now so the wife doesn't start complaining..

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 10:13 AM
a reply to: DAVID64

Me either.

But CCleaner was hacked with virus and maleware. Uninstall anything PIRIFORM... and reinstall updated cleaner

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 10:22 AM
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Often while watching youtube, a video will freeze for no apparent reason and youtube has a handy little message that says "Experiencing interruptions? Click here to find out why."

I've never had that happen. Not on mobile or otherwise. I still don't get why so many people on ATS are mobile only users.

There's a thing you can install on your browser that makes ads go away that you shouldn't use here... It works splendidly on YouTube though. Chrome + *ahem* = no ads on YouTube. I don't use it here (seriously). I've vomited my opinions enough that I don't get ads on ATS, but even if I did, ATS is small and deserves revenue.

I can't see YouTube charging more than $10 a month. If it comes to that, I'll be annoyed, but meh. Pretty sure Google knows charging is going to kill YouTube, and as others have said there are already other options. They're going to try it, it's not going to work out well, and you'll be fine.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 10:27 AM
Decent article on why YouTube Red wasn't all that.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 10:32 AM
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Youtube used to be great , then google bought it , now it isn't.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 01:09 PM
The Orange Cheetoh has invaded your twitter space, run to the Hills!!!

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 01:48 PM
AdBlock DO work on youtube.
..or, it does for me.
Just saying.


posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 04:18 PM
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

All the increasing media greed has done is drive me back into the arms of my local library system.

It is extremely rare that I cannot find a book or a DVD.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 04:41 PM

originally posted by: Nivek555
AdBlock DO work on youtube.
..or, it does for me.
Just saying.


It works on computer for sure. But for Mobile Ads have been getting through the cracks in the past two weeks.

posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 07:33 PM
a reply to: TheLotLizard

Oh youre on mobile sorry I missed that part.
I was meaning that it works on pc.
Ive never tried it myself on mobile.. Now I dont have to :-)

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