Did Ancient Humans Coexisted with Dinosaurs?

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: Phantom423

You're contradicting yourself

No, I am not. I'll give you a chance to re-read;

Did small numbers of animals descended from dinosaurs exist with humans some 150,000 - 200,000 years ago, I don't know. Is it possible, yes it's possible.

So you're referring to birds? Doesn't make much sense. The topic is DINOSAURS - big creatures - not small creatures.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

No .. see how easy that was...

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This is said to be a 5,300-year-old, Mesopotamian cylinder seal. I wouldn't jump to conclusions, likely because there aren't many to jump to.

Here's a fun scenario...

What if like today, there were isolated tribes living in dense forest areas, separate, but alongside an "advanced" race of humans. If we are currently on the brink of bringing back creatures from extinction, who's to say that previously, an advanced human race didn't create a "Jurassic Park" and after a catastrophic failure, dinosaurs escaped and somehow found their way into the wilderness. The isolated tribe could have accidentally stumbled upon one of these creatures without ever learning of their true origin.

To them, they were discovered living in Nature and may be recorded in their history as art or written language. Fast forward to the next cataclysmic event. Those left could once again, evolve to the state of what you see today (for better or worse), and accidentally discover an artifact from the previous isolated tribe that believed those creatures to exist, when they were nothing more than Frankensaurus experiments from an advanced race of humans that lived outside of their isolated existence.

Strange, I know.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

Yes because they found Dino bones and didn't know about fossilization...

They assumed the creatures still lived, and thus you get dragons and monsters..

Ta da

originally posted by: eisegesis

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This is said to be a 5,300-year-old, Mesopotamian cylinder seal. I wouldn't jump to conclusions, likely because there aren't many to jump to.

Here is a fun scenario...

What if like today, there were isolated tribes living in dense forest areas, separate, but alongside an advanced race of humans. If we are currently on the brink of bringing back creatures from existence, who's to say that previously, an advanced human race didn't create a Dinosaur park and after a catastrophic failure, they escaped and somehow found their way into the wilderness. A tribe that has been isolated for their entire existence may have accidentally stumbled upon one of these creatures and may never learn of their origin.

To them, they were discovered living in Nature and may be recorded in their history as art or writing. Fast forward to the next cataclysmic event. The next wave of humans could once again, evolve to the state of what you see today (for better or worse), and accidentally discover an artifact from the previous isolated tribe that believed those creatures to exist, when they were nothing more than Frankensaurus experiments from an advanced race of humans that lived outside of their existence.

Strange, I know.

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a reply to: Phantom423

The topic is DINOSAURS - big creatures - not small creatures.

Since when were all dinosaurs big?

Oh look, crocodiles.

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: Phantom423

The topic is DINOSAURS - big creatures - not small creatures.

Since when were all dinosaurs big?

Oh look, crocodiles.

A crocodile is not a dinosaur.

a reply to: MDpvc

Why would you doubt Dino's???

I'm sure it was Dino's... Their bones were all around...

It just wasn't living Dino's. Lol

a reply to: TheLotLizard

Funny thing, you just did the "world was thought to be flat fallacy". That has been shown to not be the case multiple times.

a reply to: Incandescent

I can answer you in a word.

Evolution.

Dinosaurs which survived the extinction event.... evolved.

We call them birds.

Again look at the Moa, emu, Ostrich etc. But in particular the Moa. Big, scary, and dangerous.

a reply to: Noinden

I'm not sure that is accurate.

Hypothetically the smartest people on the planet always knew the world was round, but I don't think that means the majority of people did...

If 12 people on the planet know the earth is round, but no one else does. It's kinda fair to say "the world thought the world was flat."

a reply to: JoshuaCox

en.wikipedia.org...

I am using Wiki as its contains the citations ... rather than relying on just Wiki (viz I looked at the citations first)

a reply to: ancienthistorian

We live with them today. This is a dinosaur...

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This also...

Sharks, crocodiles and other known examples of 'millions of years old' critters still abound today. I have no doubt the farther back we go the larger the specimens. Same with Porpoises, turtles, cockroaches, fleas and flora.

Dinosaurs are just very large, very old animals, unknown to us today because the earths biosphere isn't as pure or oxygen rich as it (was back then).

a reply to: intrptr

Eh they are not dinosaurs, but yes they are sort of dated from that time (or earlier).

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: intrptr

Eh they are not dinosaurs, but yes they are sort of dated from that time (or earlier).

Whats a fifty foot crocodile if not a 'Terrible Lizard'?

Insects preserved in amber are ancient but just like species today, too.

This drives a truck sized hole in the theory of Mass Extinctions

a reply to: Noinden

Ahh but there in lies the problem.. what percent of the population at the various eras could be considered scholars???

I'm sure that number dropped drastically at points and was never higher than 5%.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ancienthistorian

We live with them today. This is a dinosaur...

image

This also...

Sharks, crocodiles and other known examples of 'millions of years old' critters still abound today. I have no doubt the farther back we go the larger the specimens. Same with Porpoises, turtles, cockroaches, fleas and flora.

Dinosaurs are just very large, very old animals, unknown to us today because the earths biosphere isn't as pure or oxygen rich as it (was back then).

Not true at all. Dinosaurs may be distant relatives genetically, but reptiles and birds today are not dinosaurs. That's analogous to hominids and humans - they're related, but not the same.

a reply to: intrptr

Crocodiles are actually Archosaurs. They're a different type of reptile distinguished from similar animals by having a single distinct skull opening in front of each eye. Related to, but not dinosaurs. That's not to say very large lizards and humans didn't coexist.

There was a 30+ ft long (or 10 + meters for the rest of the world) relative of Monitor lizards, think the Komodo Dragons angry hungrier older brother, the was still living when HSS first made their way into Australia. It's not out of the question that other large lizards occupied similar ecological niches that humans introduced themselves into as they expanded across the globe.

Even Savanah and Nile Monitors can grow several feet long today. That's not the same as dinosaurs coexisting with humans though.

I've always been fascinated about that question as well. How do two different civilizations spread between time and geology can all be talking about the same thing.

The only answer I can come up with is that dinosaurs once wondered this world 26 million years ago. Continents were closer together. The world was very different. The one thing you can find everywhere are dinosaur bones.

Ancients not having the same tech and info we know now made them create fables or these mysterious creatures. I don't know. An early human stumbling on a t-rex skull would scare and inspire him.

That's the most logical explication I can come up with.

a reply to: Phantom423

Dinosaurs may be distant relatives genetically, but reptiles and birds today are not dinosaurs. That's analogous to hominids and humans - they're related, but not the same.

Agreed , having adapted to a plethora of different environments over the Eons changes them drastically.

I didn't mention birds, but since you did, if a fossil has feathers, its a bird.

Many birds today have feathers but don't fly.

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