The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It seems you're the quite the expert on David Duke and anti-Semitism.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Fer real, dude... seek help.

That's fresh...coming from someone who can't even understand how ironic his argument actually is...

NAZIS agree with Trump and Republicans on some issues = Republicans and President Trump are NAZIS...

NAZIS agree/endorse with the left-wing Occupy Movement but it does not mean "left-wing = NAZIS"....

You are the one that needs help, "fer real dude"...

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

NAZIS agree with Trump and Republicans on some issues = Republicans and President Trump are NAZIS...

if you say Republicans and Mr Trump are Nazis ... I guess that's your opinion.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You keep hammering away that there were Nazis in the "Occupy Movement" without evidence, and now you are confusing Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism. It is possible to be a practicing Jew who believes in assimilation without being Anti-Semitic. It has to do with theology, not racism. The fact of the matter is that Nazism arose as a reaction to the liberal politics of the Weimar Republic, just as Fascism in Italy (and elsewhere) was a reaction to Socialism.

a reply to: DJW001

Duke and the ANP were attracted to Occupy for two reasons a) commenting got them hours of free advertising and b) they believed that anything that hurt the "Jew Bankers" was good for them.

Some people, as we have seen, are DESPERATE to distract from the Nazis and White Supremacists who believe Trump is one of them, and from the admission from the Republican party that it has used racial politics to garner voters and divide the country.

To say that some are obsessed with this denial here would be an understatement, based on what we've seen.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You have no idea how riculously funny your posts are, do you?

Thanks.

It's like the KKK have created a bot to respond to threads like these isn't it. Spilling out the same logical fallacies over and over as if repetition makes it right. And then creating their own thread just to reverse the assertion and insist the KKK were lefties, despite not having a single shred of evidence to support the hypothesis.

Black is white, white is black. How many fingers are being held up.

It's just bizarre some of the stuff in this thread.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Awwww... poor little universe!

You people, the left and your allies, really can't participate in a discussion without using nothing but ad hominem fallacies, and absurd straw men arguments can you?...

...stated the moron, who keeps spreading 'his' disinfo that the Nazis were socialists cause their party program of lies said so. You have no idea what a solid argument looks like, why bother taking you seriously?

Melt away, little snowflake! Live with the spirit of ATS, stop with the lies and we will stop calling them out. It is that easy.

a reply to: Painterz

Bizarre is an understatement.

Bots? Maybe. If one notices the relative speed that long, drawn-out, redundant posts complete with videos and graphics get churned out ...

I think some are just obsessively triggered, and have little else in life.

OP using D'Souza's new book (or at least the Title and an excerpt) as a point-of-departure suggests that because Woodrow Wilson allowed a screening of "Birth of a Nation" in the White House that the Democratic Party of 2017 is therefore directly equivalent to the Nazis.

We've noted that beliefs that we find obnoxious today were common in the late 19th and early 20th centuries (like the inferiority of races*) which invalidates the claim that Wilson (who was certainly a racist) makes the modern Democrats of 2017 racist therefore. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and many others were firmly convinced that Black people, particularly, were inferior. The idea certainly didn't arise from any given political party, even then.

From this absurd claim that is ludicrous on its face, we have wandered through the annals of conflating Hitler's Socializmus with socialism/communism/etc, as well as the alleged racism of the 2017 Democrats as evidenced by the technically factual but contextually meaningless claim that the KKK was founded by Democrats in 1870.

We've seen that claims that 2017 Democrats "oppress" Black Americans is based entirely in a negative opinion of social programs, which is further disproven by the fact that Blacks repeatedly and in large numbers vote Democratic. (This point could be expanded considerably.)

So, where are we?


*This always seems to me like a half-truth. Yes, belief in racial superiority/inferiority was prevalent at the time, however ... there are plenty of examples of those who know it was bunk at the time particularly among the Quaker community.

a reply to: Gryphon66

So, where are we?

The muddy pityverse in a parallel dimension of revisionist history? Good thing is, that there isn't any genocide around to make fascism look extremely ugly. Heck... even the KKK comes across as a democratic corner stone of society.
Gotta enjoy the good times as long as they last.

#IdyllicWorld

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Gryphon66

So, where are we?

The muddy pityverse in a parallel dimension of revisionist history? Good thing is, that there isn't any genocide around to make fascism look extremely ugly. Heck... even the KKK comes across as a democratic corner stone of society.
Gotta enjoy the good times as long as they last.

#IdyllicWorld

Geez, if this is idyllic ...

a reply to: Gryphon66

Geez indeed.

But chistian apologists have other things in mind than compassion and decency while rewriting history. We're so idyllically fcked by allegedly famous authors...

D'Souza has argued the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal was a result of "the sexual immodesty of liberal America." He further asserted that the conditions of prisoners at Abu Ghraib "are comparable to the accommodations in mid-level Middle Eastern hotels."

en.wikipedia.org...

#TheInfamouslyFamous

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Gryphon66

Geez indeed.

But chistian apologists have other things in mind than compassion and decency while rewriting history. We're so idyllically fcked by allegedly famous authors...

D'Souza has argued the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal was a result of "the sexual immodesty of liberal America." He further asserted that the conditions of prisoners at Abu Ghraib "are comparable to the accommodations in mid-level Middle Eastern hotels."

en.wikipedia.org...

#TheInfamouslyFamous

#retch

D'Souza is one to talk about morality ... didn't he cheat on his wife?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Exactly. I think they do that to get us to forget that it was literal Neo-Nazis in 2017 marching alongside conservatives at a "Unite the Right" rally to protest the removal of a confederate leader.

. Neo Nazis and the CPUSA also marched with the Occupy Wall Street... my how we forget our inconvenient truths .

Source?

Ummm I remember it from when they first marched.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Exactly. I think they do that to get us to forget that it was literal Neo-Nazis in 2017 marching alongside conservatives at a "Unite the Right" rally to protest the removal of a confederate leader.

. Neo Nazis and the CPUSA also marched with the Occupy Wall Street... my how we forget our inconvenient truths .

Source?

Ummm I remember it from when they first marched.

Ah. Were you marching beside Nazis at "Occupy," then?

a reply to: PublicOpinion
And how do you know what Christians have in their mind?
DeSouza..... allegedly famous? lol ok
Rewriting history ? It's the communist Howard Zinn who has rewritten history with an ant American anti Christian Secular humanist bias.. Zinn is the focus of some of DeSiuzas work. Oh yes DeSouza was from
Bangladesh ....

a reply to: PublicOpinion
No I was not in attendance...I just remember seeing the pics.
Before Fake News of course.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

And how do you know what Christians have in their mind?

You saw the quote, right? That's not my quote, nor is it yours. Who's quote is it?

Rewriting history ? It's the communist Howard Zinn who has rewritten history with an ant American anti Christian Secular humanist bias.. Zinn is the focus of some of DeSiuzas work. Oh yes DeSouza was from
Bangladesh ....

So he's an Indian and thus I'm supposed to be a tad more generous? Crap is crap, screw the positive racism too. I couldn't care less where he's from but you're wrong. Bombay. Whatever.

What are you still talking to me, get his books and pipe up? He needs folks like you. Who am I to stand in the way, off to the store you go!

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: PublicOpinion
No I was not in attendance...I just remember seeing the pics.
Before Fake News of course.

So you have no direct knowledge, only a news source which may be lying to you. Personally, I do not recall seeing any swastikas and torches there... Unlike those "fine people" in Virginia.