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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Phantom423
Who's us folks?
Time to God is not the same as to man...
1000 years is as a day and a day is as 1000 years to him...
Time has no hold over God...
Therefore 7 days to him could just as easily be explained away as billions of years to us...
Because I see it all as a puzzle that has to fit together not separated neglecting one over the other...
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Phantom423
This is Lucy
Once more... why were human feet added to her?
originally posted by: Yvhmer
God is not a scientific theory, not even an hypothesis, but, scientifically, a frivolous appeal for those who lazily fail. .
originally posted by: peter vlar
To sum it up, in the artists recreation of Lucy, the feet weren't human, they were the feet of an Australopithecus Afarensis based on what we know from other A. Afarensis and the other Australopithecines. It's not like someone just sad "F(& it... I want them to be our ancestor so I'm just sticking my neighbors wife's feet on here 'cause that'll teach those bible thumpers!!!".
originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: peter vlar
What about the fourth metatarsal? I know she was found without feet, but didn't they come to the conclusion that Australopithicus feet were similar to human. Hence the title of the article: "They Walked Tall" or something like that. Why aren't Australopithicus foot fossils classified as transitional (not sure that's even a classification).
originally posted by: Barcs
This thread has pretty much turned into nothing but the same ol' creationists repeating the same ol' nonsense they have been spouting for years. ... It's not that complicated to understand.
This communications revolution has led to information overload, as people are inundated by countless messages from every quarter. Many respond to this pressure by absorbing messages more quickly and accepting them without questioning or analyzing them.
The cunning propagandist loves such shortcuts—especially those that short-circuit rational thought. Propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic. As history bears out, such tactics can prove all too effective.
...
Some propagandists play on pride. Often we can spot appeals to pride by looking for such key phrases as: “Any intelligent person knows that . . .” or, “A person with your education can’t help but see that . . .” A reverse appeal to pride plays on our fear of seeming stupid. Professionals in persuasion are well aware of that.
...
They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target.
The propagandist makes sure that his message appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow it. You are one of the smart ones, you are not alone, you are comfortable and secure—so they say.
...repeating the same ol' nonsense they have been spouting for years.
Why don't you tell us again about all your degrees and how well you understand science, because based on your posts here you are a huge expert! LOL! - Barcs
If that's the case, then you truly did not understand what you were looking at. - Phantom423
Here's your problem in a nutshell: You don't understand mechanism i.e. the way things work. ... A real scientist seeks to understand mechanism - how stuff works. Creationists shut the door and close the book on learning. It's easy, doesn't take much effort and definitely does not stress the brain. - Phantom423
That is the problem with creationists, they are flummoxed by geology and genetics scares them - Noinden
You and the Creationist crowd have closed the book of knowledge. ...You, of course, will never understand it... - Phantom423
And that really is the bottom line, it's easier to ignore evidence because A. You don't understand it... - peter vlar
It's unfortunate that you're so closed minded and refuse to attempt to understand the science you dispute.
....thanks for trying to be smart. - puzzlesphere
apparently you don't even know what the word evidence means... - Akragon
simple explanations to simple issues... but far over the head of simple people apparently - Akragon
you should get off of ATS and read a book...Seriously, it would really behoove you to educate yourself a little. I'm sure your 8th grade science teacher could give you some suggestions. If not, try THIS book . It has a lot of polysyllabic words in it though so maybe you could get our mom to read it to you at bedtime. ... It won't help your arrogance [that one was funny after all that].... - peter vlar
If you don't understand...then there's no point in discussing this. ...When was the last time you set foot in a science class beyond high school or sifted dirt at a dig site?... what kind of a reply are you expecting when your refutation of valid science that you clearly don't understand well enough to falsify...their lack of understanding of science... - peter vlar
Go get a physics book. - Phantom423 [used 3 times in a row]
Go get a math book along with the physics book. - Phantom423
Jeez, get a few books. - Phantom423
Maybe you can figure something out. Not very hopeful, but...... - Phantom423
Get a book. ... And this time, get some quality books and do some real research before you start writing. -Phantom423
Come back when you're equipped to challenge the data... And that's because you can't discuss the data. You simply don't know how. ... Because you simply don't know how.
That's why I said, come back when you're equipped to challenge the mountains of evidence that validate evolution as the best theory which fits observational evidence. Again, you simply can't do that because you don't know how.
Get some books, listen to some lectures, read the research and come back with an honest presentation as to why over 500 journals and thousands of research articles are wrong. - Phantom423
Try coming up with something new and isn't exclusively based on propaganda... -Barcs [euhm, who's being repetitive in their behaviour and demonstrations of appeals to emotions, in particular pride, having done a real number on them in terms of how they now view anyone who disagrees with them regarding this subject?]
If you had a clue,... But you don't...For someone of your magnitude of arrogance... - peter vlar [ah the funny arrogance accusation again after expressing one's own]
If you really believe that then you've never worked in science or gone to grad school for anything science related. - peter vlar
So I assume this is your own take on a topic that you know absolutely nothing about. - Phantom423
Try learning... - dragonridr
...haven't got a clue when it comes to any of the material...and I have serious doubts that you would understand any of it if you tried to read it. - peter vlar
Dont bother i think we have been arguing with a teenager. Ive not seen him display anything above 10th grade science class. ... And ive noticed hes unwilling to admit he doesnt understand... - dragonridr
That's to be expected though from the scientifically illiterate. - peter vlar
You're very far behind the learning curve. - Phantom423
You hate evolution, don't understand the science behind it... - peter vlar
...repeating the same ol' nonsense they have been spouting for years.