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originally posted by: SprocketUK
What the BBC does isn't of the left. They tell us it is, but it is the government's official broadcaster. They tell us what the government (Mostly the EU) want us to listen to.
Hell, if they were left, socialist even, they'd never have edited the Orgreave footage to make the miners look like the ones who started that fight, nor done Thatchers other dirty work in helping to break that strike.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
Oh it's certainly relevant to the discussion of a socialist nanny state, surely that is obvious.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
What the BBC does isn't of the left. They tell us it is, but it is the government's official broadcaster. They tell us what the government (Mostly the EU) want us to listen to.
Hell, if they were left, socialist even, they'd never have edited the Orgreave footage to make the miners look like the ones who started that fight, nor done Thatchers other dirty work in helping to break that strike.
They are full of the globalist rubbish the Bilderbergers want ramming down our throat, they aren't left.
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: SprocketUK
They are full of the globalist rubbish the Bilderbergers want ramming down our throat, they aren't left.
Just like all the other broadcasting corperations out there then.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Don't you think its funny they ran and ran with that dossier though? Tgen, when it was all too late, began to question the motives behind it?
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
originally posted by: SprocketUK
What the BBC does isn't of the left. They tell us it is, but it is the government's official broadcaster. They tell us what the government (Mostly the EU) want us to listen to.
Hell, if they were left, socialist even, they'd never have edited the Orgreave footage to make the miners look like the ones who started that fight, nor done Thatchers other dirty work in helping to break that strike.
They are full of the globalist rubbish the Bilderbergers want ramming down our throat, they aren't left.
Right... because globalism isn't founded on concepts of socialism and progressive ideals...
originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: ChaoticOrder
Well I stand corected if they have reclassifeied it as a tax well done you.
It is still non obligatory though is it not? I have the right to choose to pay or to not pay do I not?
We have a road tax over here as well to fund the building and mainenace of roads and you pay the tax on every vehicle that you want to use the roads for. I do not pay that either as I do not drive but fell free to scream communism about that to if it floats your boat.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
If you drive on a road you're putting wear on it and taxes make sense to help maintain the roads and build new roads.
originally posted by: audubon
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
If you drive on a road you're putting wear on it and taxes make sense to help maintain the roads and build new roads.
I don't drive. My taxes go towards highway maintenance anyway.
By your logic, this is some kind of moral outrage.
But by my logic I am helping to keep the nation running smoothly, and since I am quite attached to the place I shall continue to do so and never worry about it.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: SprocketUK
Whether they are philosophically what you consider to be the left or not is irrelevant because they are the establishment left and your idealistic concept of a perfect classical liberal left doesn't exist apart from a minority of people who are shunned by the mainstream left, the same way the libertarians are shunned by the establishment right.