Im confused by the Lefts Beliefs

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Your quote cited "LEFT" 649 times (give or take a couple hundred, lol), while the OP stated it 21 times. Methinks youre being very dramatic while missing the point entirely. This is typical, albiet stereotypical lefty behavior.

Oh how cute. You counted the number of times I used the word "LEFT". How adorable.
Oh I am being dramatic? The OP is not being dramatic? And no I haven't missed the point.
BTW your post is a stereotypical righty behavior, not seeing how hypocritical the RIGHT is.

Now, instead of counting people's words in this thread, will you address the counter points presented by me and other posters?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The hypocrisy runs deep. I don't even think the left knows what it believes anymore. Something something socialism, something something hatred, blah blah blah.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
I think it basically boils down to this:

Liberal lefties believe that all people are inherently good, but that their circumstances or mistreatment by "The Man" make them do bad things, and if they were given the right opportunities and educated "correctly" by them (as the better people) then they would live their lives out productively and happy.

Conservative right-wingers believe that people are essentially sneaky monkeys who are either inherently evil or are influenced to be evil by Satan, and the only way to properly deal with them is with severe discipline and forcing them to follow the laws they (as the better people) have created for their own good.

As you can see, I think the biggest problem with both of these points of view is that they're created by people who think they're better than everybody else and that their way is the right way.

Throw religion (or "spirituality") into the mix, and that just makes it stink even more.

Oh really, then why is it that the Left Wing continually supports Totalitarian efforts to force us all into doing things their way... you know like becoming vegans because the rest of the World is not affluent and cannot afford to eat meat? That's part of the Sustainability nonsense that is Agenda 21. How about multi million dollar bike paths because Americans are too affluent and should stop driving cars...they just put one in my neighborhood. Please look again at your generalizations.
Oh, did I mention that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden are both Catholics?

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Which party enacted the Patriot Act again?

Also, since you are name dropping, how do you explain Jeff Sessions wanting to end legal marijuana? Sounds pretty totalitarian to me.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Here's a very simple example:

The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".

That is busted because many Christians are on the left.

See the propaganda yet? Or should I continue to bust the propaganda for you?

A few like Pelosi and Biden. An anomaly I think, but Marxists have infiltrated the Catholic Church with the intent of changing doctrine to suit their cultural agenda.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Both of them.

As long as you keep wrapping everything around the "two" parties youll remain as blindsided to and by reality as the entirelly ignorant. Even more so if anything.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Please don't talk to me if you don't understand the point I'm trying to make. Which has nothing to do with trying to paint one side as worse than the other.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Which party enacted the Patriot Act again?

Also, since you are name dropping, how do you explain Jeff Sessions wanting to end legal marijuana? Sounds pretty totalitarian to me.

Joe Biden claims he authored the original Patriot Act....frankly this is where TPTB on both sides meet in the middle to promote the NWO agenda.

www.buzzfeed.com...

www.washingtonsblog.com...
newspunch.com...

any questions?
And FYI Marijuana is far more detrimental to humans than beef
How much of the truth do you really want to see? Red pill or Blue?

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Yes. Why didn't you answer my second question? Also, why can't you admit that the right is no better than the left? One more, why is the left allowed to be solely guilty for something but everything the right may be guilty for the left has to share the blame with?

And a question from your previous post. I have literally never met a leftist, let alone a vegan, that forced anyone to become vegan. Have you? Speaking of generalizations and all. Also, who is forcing you to use bike paths?

Wait I just read your edit:

And FYI Marijuana is far more detrimental to humans than beef

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phew. Thanks for the laugh, but that still doesn't answer my question. Why is it ok for Jeff Sessions to be totalitarian and go against the public's wishes but you get to make up a bunch of nonexistent issues the left isn't pushing on people as evidence of their totalitarian behavior?

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Oh really, then why is it that the Left Wing continually supports Totalitarian efforts to force us all into doing things their way... you know like becoming vegans because the rest of the World is not affluent and cannot afford to eat meat?

Remember -- They believe they're correct and that we're sadly ignorant compared to them. They would prefer to educate us into their correct way of thinking that eating meat is bad for us and the environment. But if they can't get us to come around on our own (because of "The Man"), they're not above putting the hammer down to force us to do what they want. That's why. It's for our own good!

The Conservative Right doesn't think we're stupid, just evil. They'll let us eat red meat until we keel over from heart attacks and destroy the rainforests because it's good business. Death is good business. As long as they're getting their share of the profits (or would like to, if they're one of those stupid low-income Conservatives), they don't give two craps about what happens to us or the environment.

And by "us" I mean average folk like you or me who don't necessarily have an agenda but are just trying to get by and live a decent life without screwing over other people too much.

One thing the Left and the Right both have in common. They want your money. They both sell morality, just slightly different flavors, like Coke and Pepsi.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Yes. Why didn't you answer my second question? Also, why can't you admit that the right is no better than the left? One more, why is the left allowed to be solely guilty for something but everything the right may be guilty for the left has to share the blame with?

And a question from your previous post. I have literally never met a leftist, let alone a vegan, that forced anyone to become vegan. Have you? Speaking of generalizations and all. Also, who is forcing you to use bike paths?

Wait I just read your edit:

And FYI Marijuana is far more detrimental to humans than beef

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phew. Thanks for the laugh, but that still doesn't answer my question. Why is it ok for Jeff Sessions to be totalitarian and go against the public's wishes but you get to make up a bunch of nonexistent issues the left isn't pushing on people as evidence of their totalitarian behavior?

Ok lets go back a few bits. I don't believe Ive ever said the Right is guiltless. Oh yes and I remember, it was I who have posted numerous times the works of Antony Sutton, who exposed the Order of Skull and Bones, which members often become members of the CFR and are on both left and right democrat and republican and which promote a Totalitarian NWO which is really neither right nor left because the Hegelian dialectic creates managed conflict and TPTB provide the solutions. Yes I clearly remember posting that many times. The Bush family are prominent members of Skull and Bones.... so ummm no you are clearly not correct about me.

About Jeff Sessions...just how much of the public's wishes are you talking about? Have you talked to parents whose children did poorly in school and dropped out because pot made them passive an unable to think clearly? Were you aware how much of the public opinion one George Soros has formed through his leftist organizations? I just love how Leftists hate those horrid capitalists corporations, till it become Big Business to use pot for medicinals.
To me the question is why would a billionaire like Soros promote pot on such a widespread scale. Everything he does is for humanist leftist causes.

www.rt.com...

oh and this is RICH.... Soros and Monsanto team up to promote pot... I can just imagine what happens when leaky gut syndrome from RoundUp enters the brains tissue of pot users......this is so disgusting I can hardly stand it....
wakeup-world.com...

I lean left on just about every social issue you can think of. I would find it abhorrent to even think about falling on the conservative side of any social issue, but yet I own guns.

According to the obnoxious and incredibly stupid OP, I could not possibly own guns, as I must certainly hate the 2nd Amendment. I must certainly hate guns and/or gun owners. Oops.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

So why are you dodging answering my questions then? It should be easy to give answers to them without getting all defensive about it.

I'd still like to know where all these vegans are that are forcing you to become a vegan. I'm also curious how many tickets you've gotten for not using that bike path that is apparently inhibiting your rights.

PS: The NWO is hokum.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Here's a very simple example:

The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".

That is busted because many Christians are on the left.

See the propaganda yet? Or should I continue to bust the propaganda for you?

A few like Pelosi and Biden. An anomaly I think, but Marxists have infiltrated the Catholic Church with the intent of changing doctrine to suit their cultural agenda.

The Catholic Church sees Africa as their largest unexplored market for their products. So they are going to adapt their message to suit this demographic.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

So why are you dodging answering my questions then? It should be easy to give answers to them without getting all defensive about it.

I'd still like to know where all these vegans are that are forcing you to become a vegan. I'm also curious how many tickets you've gotten for not using that bike path that is apparently inhibiting your rights.

PS: The NWO is hokum.

I'm not "defensive". I am simply defending my viewpoint as anyone here would. The NWO is not hokum.... at least George Bush doesn't think so...

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Here's a very simple example:

The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".

That is busted because many Christians are on the left.

See the propaganda yet? Or should I continue to bust the propaganda for you?

A few like Pelosi and Biden. An anomaly I think, but Marxists have infiltrated the Catholic Church with the intent of changing doctrine to suit their cultural agenda.

The Catholic Church sees Africa as their largest unexplored market for their products. So they are going to adapt their message to suit this demographic.

If by the Catholic Church you mean The Vatican I'm n not real surprised. The current Pope is fake anyway and a socialist NWO puppet.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

So why are you dodging answering my questions then? It should be easy to give answers to them without getting all defensive about it.

I'd still like to know where all these vegans are that are forcing you to become a vegan. I'm also curious how many tickets you've gotten for not using that bike path that is apparently inhibiting your rights.

PS: The NWO is hokum.

Now if you were to ask me which party enacted Obamacare...its easy to see...only 3 Republicans voted for it....so which party is promoting a Totalitarian forcing Americans to purchase a product from Big Medicine insurance companies? Though to be honest, Establishment Republicans really mucked it up when they had the chance to do something the right way.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Oh really, then why is it that the Left Wing continually supports Totalitarian efforts to force us all into doing things their way... you know like becoming vegans because the rest of the World is not affluent and cannot afford to eat meat?

Remember -- They believe they're correct and that we're sadly ignorant compared to them. They would prefer to educate us into their correct way of thinking that eating meat is bad for us and the environment. But if they can't get us to come around on our own (because of "The Man"), they're not above putting the hammer down to force us to do what they want. That's why. It's for our own good!

The Conservative Right doesn't think we're stupid, just evil. They'll let us eat red meat until we keel over from heart attacks and destroy the rainforests because it's good business. Death is good business. As long as they're getting their share of the profits (or would like to, if they're one of those stupid low-income Conservatives), they don't give two craps about what happens to us or the environment.

And by "us" I mean average folk like you or me who don't necessarily have an agenda but are just trying to get by and live a decent life without screwing over other people too much.

One thing the Left and the Right both have in common. They want your money. They both sell morality, just slightly different flavors, like Coke and Pepsi.

Ok I hear what you are saying. You've made some very good points. Thanks

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

So why are you dodging answering my questions then? It should be easy to give answers to them without getting all defensive about it.

I'd still like to know where all these vegans are that are forcing you to become a vegan. I'm also curious how many tickets you've gotten for not using that bike path that is apparently inhibiting your rights.

PS: The NWO is hokum.

I'm not "defensive". I am simply defending my viewpoint as anyone here would. The NWO is not hokum.... at least George Bush doesn't think so...

Or maybe the way he is using the phrase is different from the way you are using the phrase?

What about those vegans?

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

See. There you go. Looking for a way to blame just the left again. If you'd bother to care about the nuances, the reason the ACA is the way it is is because it is a compromise that Obama and the Democrats made to the Republicans to make it appealing to both parties.

On top of that. You say that the Republicans didn't vote for it, and we've heard that song and dance. So why aren't you talking about recent news involving Obamacare? Like, I dunno, not repealing or replacing Obamacare despite campaigning and voting to do so for the last 8 years?