Reporting the North Korean bogeyman

I've have somewhat followed the situation with North Korea 2017 with varying degrees of interest, but admittedly, and with the possibility of being within the demographic of those who only pay attention when threats of doom are loosely thrown around, one surely must see that it has been nothing but just that...loose threats purportedly spoken by Kim Jong Un and/or his administration, that are reported as fact by nearly every news source in the main stream.

As limited as it may appear to most westerners, North Korea's totalitarian media outlet evidently controls what it's people view as truth in both the domestic and international. This includes what the international community can see of any North Korean domestic affairs, which leads me to my main point-

Given the now secrecy of valid information coming in and out of North Korea, can anybody actually remember seeing a true spoken and translated video statement by Kim Jong Un or his administration, verifying what we are being fed as the 'breaking news' of a new threat?

It's literally turning into a new threat perpetrated by Kim Jong Un each week, It just seems to me like the threats are being perpetuated by our media because they sell, and in the circumstances of North Korea's social and political secrecy, any story can be tied to them...what's worse than a threat of total annihilation by nuclear war?

Not to take away from the possibility of any real threat, as it's equally also possible that I am completely wrong. Just a thought

a reply to: Griffo515

Given the now secrecy of valid information coming in and out of North Korea, can anybody actually remember seeing a true spoken and translated video statement by Kim Jong Un or his administration, verifying what we are being fed as the 'breaking news' of a new threat?

Actions speak louder than words and Mr Kim's actions tell us more about his intentions than any words he may speak , the truth of the situation is clear to see with every missile launch and Nuclear test.

Bigbadaboom...

a reply to: gortex

a reply to: Griffo515

like the "6.3Earthquake" recently??

You can't lie about that. Another nuke this time much larger than the last.

I get what you are saying, but people can speak korean and those people are nit saying us media is making up threats..

they make videos showing usa in a nuclear firestorm..

what more do you need??

Anyway.

I don't ever understand these thimgs. Why not just get rich like s. korea? as I type on my Samsung phone... I really don't understand.

The World is gone MAD! Or madder...


What’s happening today with North Korea is abominable and the height of insanity.

The fact that powerful people are contemplating nuclear war today leaves one speechless; there are no words in the English language to describe such madness

As the US blindly wonders on with a potential nuclear confrontation with North Korea.

After North Korea successfully tested a hydrogen bomb on Sunday, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis warned that the United States is more than capable of “the total annihilation of a country”.

theeconomiccollapseblog.com...

Such a statement by a US defense secretary is beyond insane considering NKorea with just a few nuclear weapons can kill millions of Americans and leave the US destroyed as they destroy N Korea.

People are forgetting the power of one Hydrogen bomb!

A few are unthinkable!

Just a handful of North Korean nukes could kill millions of people and render the largest cities in South Korea or Japan completely uninhabitable, and so a nuclear war with the North Koreans should be avoided at all costs. Sadly, global events seem to be relentlessly pulling us in that direction.

Instead of going all out to defuse this madness, the US pours gasoline on the fire of nuclear annihilation by not trying its best to sit down with the lunatic in NK and settle this madness.

Usually it only takes one lunatic on one side to start a war, but in this case, we have two lunatics going at each other: Kim and Trump.

Is this threat overblown?

Does that matter since if the chance of a nuclear war is a few percentage possibilities it still leaves the world in stark peril

We know now through the jihadi experience, mad people are capable of doing anything suicidal and homicidal, and a lunatic in North Korea and a lunatic in Washington present the perfect storm for a potential nuclear war

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Griffo515

Given the now secrecy of valid information coming in and out of North Korea, can anybody actually remember seeing a true spoken and translated video statement by Kim Jong Un or his administration, verifying what we are being fed as the 'breaking news' of a new threat?

Actions speak louder than words and Mr Kim's actions tell us more about his intentions than any words he may speak , the truth of the situation is clear to see with every missile launch and Nuclear test.

He wants to be able to protect his country from us aggression?

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

He wants to be able to protect his country from us aggression?

I don't know what he wants , the truth I was referring to is the truth of the current situation being real and not "fake news" or propaganda as the OP was suggesting.

a reply to: Griffo515

In the other hand, with Nuclear ICBMs, Fat Boy now made himself the perfect boogeyman for the TPTB to seize power via a nuclear false flag.

Such scenarios was explored in Operation Black Jack and the TV show Jericho.

The NK have used the same spokeswoman for something like 40 years. They arent denying they have nukes, they are announcing it and nobody anywhere in the world is denying it except for inane internet posters.

NK announces what it does, says what it wants to do, and launches missiles (seen by civilians in Japan) as well as performs easy to verify nuclear tests. China and Russia say nothing different about it than our government does.

The only thing in question is what to do about it (or not)

I saw a guy post all over youtube that nukes dont even exist. People are losing their grip on reality. This is all incredibly easy to verify for the most skeptical tinfoil hat wearer. Lord.

originally posted by: pirhanna
People are losing their grip on reality.

This is what we should be discussing... all of us.

This could be be the single biggest threat facing all of us.

Our reality is distorted by the media, and in our deeply hidden collective mind... we subconciously reap what they sow.

originally posted by: MarkOfTheV

originally posted by: pirhanna
People are losing their grip on reality.

This is what we should be discussing... all of us.

This could be be the single biggest threat facing all of us.

Our reality is distorted by the media, and in our deeply hidden collective mind... we subconciously reap what they sow.

No we should be discussing the balance of power in the area, As China now accepts a rouge state with nukes on its border wont need to cry unfair when Japan can get the ok to have nukes to protect themselves from the North Korens, you know the country that are being threatened with missiles launched at them, not the US they havn't had anything launched at them yet. So let's make Japan safe first.

a reply to: Robbo2006

How about we let Japan make Japan safe?

"National sovereignty" is becoming as dirty a phrase as "personal responsibility."

Not surprising, considering they're closely related concepts.

Why not just invite Kim, the Chinese, Russians, S Koreans, and Japanese over to discuss this.

What prevents these crazy bastards from doing this?

Have a summit. Fete Kim with Trump supposed deal making and his lavish hotels, meals and woman, wine and song.

This makes no sense.

There are no economic, geographic issues to fight over with N Korea.

Do these crazies in the US want war?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Griffo515

Given the now secrecy of valid information coming in and out of North Korea, can anybody actually remember seeing a true spoken and translated video statement by Kim Jong Un or his administration, verifying what we are being fed as the 'breaking news' of a new threat?

Actions speak louder than words and Mr Kim's actions tell us more about his intentions than any words he may speak , the truth of the situation is clear to see with every missile launch and Nuclear test.

When Secretary of Defense James "Mad Dog" Mattis takes to the microphone like he did yesterday, the situation is SERIOUS.
Video - 1minute 6 seconds:www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: NthOther

So true, I don't think they want nukes though. But I think China should have stepped up to the plate instead of standing behind the curtain giggling like 12 yo school kids. Could imagine the rant from the Chinese if Japan mentioned making nukes.

a reply to: Griffo515

North Korea is a proxy of China... nothing happens without Chinese say so!
The real war is between China (and Russia to a lesser extent), vs USA.

China has no interest in de escalating the situation... if they did, they would have done it by now.

A war is coming ...betweeen China and America.

It's GREAT for business. More views, more clicks, more banners being seen, more traffic, more people tuning into the TV channels.

You could go further and say, more groceries being bought (kind of like when a storm is about to hit) etc.

It's a fear based bizness venture. The official version of doom porn. I like being able to read about it, but they push it to the maximum.

There will be no war unless Kim strikes first. If we struck first, we'd be taking a big fat poo on our allies who would bear the casualties.

Here's reality: North Korea *might* have a few missiles, at most, that could possibly reach the U.S. mainland. They'd probably never make it over the pacific before being shot down. Then, he gets obliterated. If he launches on South Korea or Japan, he gets obliterated. He's not going to launch.

China said they will not tolerate war on the peninsula. Well what if North Korea started it?

I think we've been here before......but maybe the media had something else to focus on back then.

07/04/06 — Defying broad international pressure, North Korea test-fires six missiles into the Sea of Japan, including a long-range Taepodong-2 with the theoretical capacity to reach the continental U.S. However, the Taepodong-2 failed 40 seconds into its flight. In a press briefing about the launches, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan stated, “In doing this, the North Koreans have once again isolated themselves. They have defied their neighbors who urged them not to have a launch. The South Koreans, the Japanese and the Chinese all have asked them not to do it. The United States now will work with the other parties in the six-party talks to figure out the appropriate way to move forward. But I think it’s fair to say that this is a further indication of isolation on the part of the North Koreans. And it also reminds everybody about the nature of the regime.”

07/05/06 — North Korea launches a seventh missile, despite broad international condemnation of the earlier launches.

10/3/06 — North Korean media carry a DPRK Foreign Ministry statement saying that the DPRK will take “new measures” to strengthen its self-defense capabilities, which includes conducting a “nuclear test.”

10/9/06 — North Korea announces that it has carried out an underground nuclear test. It calls the test a “historic event” and says that “It will contribute to defending the peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and in the area around it

North Korean Provocative Actions, 1950 - 2007

originally posted by: Griffo515
I've have somewhat followed the situation with North Korea 2017 with varying degrees of interest, but admittedly, and with the possibility of being within the demographic of those who only pay attention when threats of doom are loosely thrown around, one surely must see that it has been nothing but just that...loose threats purportedly spoken by Kim Jong Un and/or his administration, that are reported as fact by nearly every news source in the main stream.

As limited as it may appear to most westerners, North Korea's totalitarian media outlet evidently controls what it's people view as truth in both the domestic and international. This includes what the international community can see of any North Korean domestic affairs, which leads me to my main point-

Given the now secrecy of valid information coming in and out of North Korea, can anybody actually remember seeing a true spoken and translated video statement by Kim Jong Un or his administration, verifying what we are being fed as the 'breaking news' of a new threat?

It's literally turning into a new threat perpetrated by Kim Jong Un each week, It just seems to me like the threats are being perpetuated by our media because they sell, and in the circumstances of North Korea's social and political secrecy, any story can be tied to them...what's worse than a threat of total annihilation by nuclear war?

Not to take away from the possibility of any real threat, as it's equally also possible that I am completely wrong. Just a thought

Only NK 2017...?
Hell , I been keeping up with NK since almost the start of the "country" . No , technically it is only a country to the Russians (but that is a history lesson for another day)
5 letters for you
S.O.S.D.D.

a reply to: carewemust

When Secretary of Defense James "Mad Dog" Mattis takes to the microphone like he did yesterday, the situation is SERIOUS.

I don't need a "Mad Dog" to tell me the situation is serious I already know that , I just hope he doesn't live up to his nickname.