A Question - If Climate warming/change isn't anthropogenic, what do we do?

Just for the sake of this discussion, let us stipulate that the warming climate is simply a product of Solar Activity (or insert your favorite alternative theory).

What can and should human beings do to mitigate the warming and extreme climate changes in order to ensure the survival of the human race?

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Just for the sake of this discussion, let us stipulate that the warming climate is simply a product of Solar Activity (or insert your favorite alternative theory).

What can and should human beings do to mitigate the warming and extreme climate changes in order to ensure the survival of the human race?

We adapt. The way humans always have to changing conditions.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Just for the sake of this discussion, let us stipulate that the warming climate is simply a product of Solar Activity (or insert your favorite alternative theory).

What can and should human beings do to mitigate the warming and extreme climate changes in order to ensure the survival of the human race?

We could always poke a few holes in Yellowstone, provoke the big blast, cover the earth with a volcanic cloud and put on a sweater.

Build a huge fleet of supertanker ships that spray salt water into the air. The ideas been proposed and would work but you don't make money solving big problems.

Stop eating meat, preferrably stop eating all animal products.

Cycle instead of driving a car.

Make sure your home has good isolation.

Vegetarian birth success rates are significantly lower so I am not sure that would help ensure our survival.a reply to: Pitou

First they need to plug up the methane leaking from Antarctica.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Just for the sake of this discussion, let us stipulate that the warming climate is simply a product of Solar Activity (or insert your favorite alternative theory).

What can and should human beings do to mitigate the warming and extreme climate changes in order to ensure the survival of the human race?

That's kinda been the point from environmental scientists. While the left and right like to argue about the cause, there's no denying the impending crisis.

Reducing things that exacerbate should be the primary focus, no matter the cause.

So my answer is that we should do the same thing as we would if it were anthropogenic.

a reply to: FyreByrd

Interesting.

If climate change isn't man-made, then there is nothing we could do about it.

If we could do anything about it, then it would be proving the validity of man-made climate change.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FyreByrd
If climate change isn't man-made, then there is nothing we could do about it.

That's like not quitting smoking because your asthma is a genetic condition.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FyreByrd
If climate change isn't man-made, then there is nothing we could do about it.

That's like not quitting smoking because your asthma is a genetic condition.

No.

It is an interesting question though.

It's almost a back-handed way to argue FOR man-made climate change.

If man has the ability to influence the climate, then it'd support the assertion that man has been influencing the climate.

Sneaky sneaky.

do nothing.

firstly because we cant do anything, secondly like someone already said, we adapt.
weve been around long enough, ice ages didnt stop us, i dont didnt the climate getting slightly warmer is going have any effect on us.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FyreByrd

Interesting.

If climate change isn't man-made, then there is nothing we could do about it.

If we could do anything about it, then it would be proving the validity of man-made climate change.

Some think we can alter the weather with Tesla's designs from the 19th Century. Perhaps we can manipulate it but if a government can, they will conceal it and find a way to use it as a weapon. The somewhat unbelievable scientist claiming we have it are scorned as nutcases and the public looks elsewhere for real facts. Just saying because I don't know but do have my suspicions.

ETA

Ice age cometh is my prediction and if we can possibly stop that I am all ears.. Heating up is good as it free's up airable land for farming and CO2 is the food.

a reply to: FyreByrd

Birth control. Set a goal for negative population growth. Across the board. I'm not interested in 1 child per secular couple more than cancelled out by 6 children per religious fundie couple.

With global warming comes less inhabitable land and less agricultural land. Population will decrease. Steady planned decrease seems better to me than rapid catastrophic.

Begin stopping planned obsolescence.
Promote repair and renewing old products instead of the next greatest/newest cellphone or car.
The target SHOULD be wasteful materialism here so manufacturing would only need to produce durable goods and a renewed pollution campaign to begin TRAPPING carbons and pollutants.
The sun has the most say.

I like your thinking. An awesome question (:

Firstly assuming warming will continue at current rate - not anthropogenic warming would likely require a human intervention. Perhaps as noted, salt water to disperse solar radiation. Alternatively, sulphate particles to produce the same outcome.

However, interventions which ameliorate human-based carbon induced effects would also be helpful. But I assume you aim to remove that from the equation D:

Why bother? Because modern human society will negatively impacted by rapid changes in climate. Easy to fall into self-satisfactory thinking that nature is red in tooth and claw while we convince ourselves that others will be the victims (:

However, unlikely the 'current rate' argument holds water assuming solar etc influences.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Just for the sake of this discussion, let us stipulate that the warming climate is simply a product of Solar Activity (or insert your favorite alternative theory).

What can and should human beings do to mitigate the warming and extreme climate changes in order to ensure the survival of the human race?

We adapt. The way humans always have to changing conditions.

Wouldn't that require us to evolve? Physically or socially?

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Just for the sake of this discussion, let us stipulate that the warming climate is simply a product of Solar Activity (or insert your favorite alternative theory).

What can and should human beings do to mitigate the warming and extreme climate changes in order to ensure the survival of the human race?

We adapt. The way humans always have to changing conditions.

Wouldn't that require us to evolve? Physically or socially?

The neat thing about it is, history shows we do evolve a little. If we don't forget history like we must have before, we can move on. If we crash humanity to nothing and have to claw back we might forget building the nukes that destroy whole cities and do it all again.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FyreByrd

Interesting.

If climate change isn't man-made, then there is nothing we could do about it.

If we could do anything about it, then it would be proving the validity of man-made climate change.

Your conclusion that 'we can't do anything' about a natural phenomenon is clearly false (we interfere with 'natural processes' every day).

(generally, two premises are required for a conclusion)

but your second argument - may actually have some value in that "if we could do anything about it.... (see the clearly false first conclusion) then (conclusion) "it would prove the validity of anthropogenic climate change".

Whatever - bad argument all around.