Raymond Szymanksi claims Roswell Aliens were kept at Wright-Patterson Airforce Base

My apologies to those who read the UK newspaper reports without also reading my book, Fifty Shades of Greys: Evidence of Extraterrestrial Visitation to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and Beyond. www.amazon.com...
Comparing the two, one would see that I was widely misquoted in the papers. For example, the papers claim I said that "aliens were buried BENEATH the parking lot next to the FTD building." I actually said, in the interview and in the book, "The cemetery adjoins the FTD parking lot." There is also a photo of that cemetery, complete with headstones, in the book. I suppose had the papers bothered to read the book, they might not have made this and numerous other errors.


a reply to: Loopdaloop

originally posted by: Loopdaloop
He has written this in a book imaginatively called "50 shades of grey".

Clearly a retirement income top-up, but what a pillock to choose that title.

Sounds like a new song by Tom ToTheStars DeLonge...




"Fifty shades of grey,
Been shaggin' ETs all day.
No matter what people say,
It beats the dull human way.

Bangin' dogs used to make my day
'Till sexy aliens showed me the way
To achieve the ultimate lay
Via fifty shades of grey"

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Hi GE

"TELEMETRICS".

Communication across distances.

Makes sense to me

Makes sense to me too.

Like yourself, if one spends time with "them" and gets to know "them", then these things become clear.

intellegences who inhabit 'blank shells' I quite agree, I found it so myself.

Yet on another "level", when human 'memory sets' are installed in the 'blank shell', then the 'blank shell' becomes far more then just an ordinary shell. The grey really comes alive then and self aware. It is something to see.

It is a wonderful study.

So, it is perhaps logical to say that the greys are both terrestrial and extraterrestrial. The shells born here on earth and the minds from far away.

Get help! a reply to: ConfusedBrit

"He has written this in a book imaginatively called 50 Shades of Grey."

Credibility Level: 0



The guy's got a book to sell. It slices! It dices! It removes sweat stains from shirt collars!

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a reply to: Loopdaloop

So, it's his first week at work and someone tells him about "our aliens." Sounds like somebody was pranking the new guy.

I can think of a similar situation. About 20 years ago there was a young man working for NASA, who put it about on the UFO discussion boards that he was willing to share "insider information." Someone at his work location managed to slip him some actual NASA documents that included a photographic catalog. It listed photo numbers, dates, and brief descriptions of the subject matter. Some of the descriptions included the words "alien visitors" and one was simply labeled "Extraterrestrial."

The documents were absolutely real. In the context of the documents, however, the word "alien" simply meant "foreign." Some of the visitors were from places like France and Germany, for example. The "Extraterrestrial" was just a rock that someone thought might be a meteorite.

The young man had no way of knowing these things unless he requested access to the actual photos, which he never did as far as I know. Giving him the docs was just a gag. It would have been interesting had he ever posted them online.

The days of eye witnesses have come to past. Is there anyone actually still alive that could have been there during the 40s/50s events? If someone was 20 in 1950 we are talking close to 90 today. If there was death bed stories it would have been told many times over. If there is ever disclosure that is the only time anyone will learn the real facts about any of this.

I for one do not believe they have been here, and if they have it is in the form of self replicating machines, so I think we will be waiting a very long time.

Internet search "Wright Patterson" + "blue room" for more information.

There are a few sites where you can read Len Stringfields PDF collection on crashed ufos, but I dont think they are public domain yet, so hate to link to them.

I have always had a premonition that disclosure was a true two sided sword.

One side, would be the awe and satisfaction that you knew we were not alone (but you might have 'known' that anyway.)

The other side would be assorted horror baggage of some of the things that went on to protect the secret, and certainly to use it.

It is totally possible, and perhaps probable, that if you were personally every privy to what could be disclosed, then you might elect that it not become public knowledge, yet.

The yet would certainly be determined by your persona, lifestyle and financial status. I believe this to be a realistic approach to the whole subject of disclosure.

I know, it's the old "Careful what you wish for" argument, but it has some legs.

originally posted by: charlyv
I have always had a premonition that disclosure was a true two sided sword.

One side, would be the awe and satisfaction that you knew we were not alone (but you might have 'known' that anyway.)

The other side would be assorted horror baggage of some of the things that went on to protect the secret, and certainly to use it.

It is totally possible, and perhaps probable, that if you were personally every privy to what could be disclosed, then you might elect that it not become public knowledge, yet.

The yet would certainly be determined by your persona, lifestyle and financial status. I believe this to be a realistic approach to the whole subject of disclosure.

I know, it's the old "Careful what you wish for" argument, but it has some legs.

Big changes usually normalize out after 3 years, so at any point they do disclose within three years all would be seen as normal life once again. I think the movie District 9 really showed that rather well.

Depends who you ask. Story on another site said a Roswell whistleblower said the "aliens" were mostly Japanese prisoners of war (possibly), as well as Americans with physical deformities gathered from various asylums around the country to be used in high-altitude manned balloon tests. This goes along with something I've said for years. I eventually came to the conclusion that it was the Nazis at White Sands up to their old tricks again using human experimental subjects. It would probably a very good reason to keep it secret all these years and going forward. You can't put a good spin on "our manned space program started with Nazi experiments on Japanese and disabled people."

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The two sides of disclosure is one way to put it. One can also suggest disclosure is the same as asking someone who has not been honest to confess.

Just my thinking aloud here, pondering in general.

They won't confess anything incriminating. To expect people to confess anything that will get them in trouble is unrealistic.

They will generally start telling lies and covering up evidence. That is just human nature.

So, if it is disclosure of wrong doing, there will never be disclosure.

All the other justifications for secrecy are probably simply just that, justifications.

If injured aliens were secluded somewhere and perhaps mistreated, then that would cause trouble with the rest of the aliens. Not a smart thing to do. Stealing alien technology from crashed flying saucers probably wouldn't be smart either.

So it might just be a case of a few people in the past not thinking about things properly or having questionable motives causing a lot of trouble for everyone down the chain of events to our present day.

Ordinary folks get used to change as Xtrozero says.

So it is reasonable to suggest that mistakes were made in the past and owning up to those mistakes would be hard to do. But the mess needs to be addressed sometime or things just get worse with time.

In a pragmatic sense, it does not matter who did what, witch hunts are not disclosure.

There are deeper, more important problems when certain alien tech falls into the hands of (comparatively speaking) "children".

Much to ponder to fix things, but witch hunts and blame won't help.

You and most everyone else on this board have misunderstood the reason I relayed the story of "Al". Part of the blame for that falls squarely on my shoulders. I "assumed" that all of the readers would be intelligent and sophisticated enough to figure it out for themselves - I was mistaken. I will attempt to explain it on 17 March, at 10pm Pacific time, on Coast to Coast with George Knapp. Meanwhile, why not order a copy of my new book Fifty Shades of Greys: Victoria's Secret Truth. Therein you will not find any of the subtleties of the first book. You will be confronted with direct, compelling evidence of close encounters stretching across 3 generations of the same family.www.amazon.com...

Best regards.

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originally posted by: RaymondSzymanski
Get help! a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Sorry, it was a cryptic reference (more an in-joke for ATS regulars) if you are not aware of the more bizarre aspects of Tom DeLonge's musical career.

But come on, Raymond - the book title is bloody dreadful if you want to be taken seriously from the off. Or did someone else enforce a tacky title that equates with pornographic S&M muesli for bored housewives?

Anyway, good luck on George's show this week. (Ironically, George knows DeLonge better than any of us!)