Raymond Szymanksi claims Roswell Aliens were kept at Wright-Patterson Airforce Base

Hello,
in the paper today Retired Air Force Engineer Raymond Szymanksi claims that live & dead Aliens from Roswell were kept at Wright-Patterson Airforce Base. Raymond's bases this upon his claim that he used to work at Wright-Patterson Airforce Base. He has written this in a book imaginatively called "50 shades of grey". I haven't seen anything about this on here before & am interested in hearing your thoughts!

www.thesun.co.uk...

A TOP secret US Air Force base contains a vast complex of underground tunnels and vaults filled with living and dead aliens, a former worker at the site has claimed.

Raymond Szymanksi believes the UFOs and aliens from the infamous 1947 Roswell incident were bought to the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (WPAFB) in Dayton, Ohio for inspection and kept in secret tunnels.

The Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio (pictured) houses a vast complex of vaults filled with living and dead aliens, according to a former engineerGLEN MCCURTAYNE
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The Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio (pictured) houses a vast complex of vaults filled with living and dead aliens, according to a former engineer
The extra-terrestrial researcher, who worked as an engineer and senior scientist at WPAFB for 39 years, detailed the full extent of the "alien" activity at the base in a book called 50 Shades of Greys.

Szymanski, who is the first person to break rank and publicly talk about the “secrets” of the base, heard of the alien conspiracy during his first week at the base.

He claims his mentor Al asked him, "Have you heard about our aliens?", as he showed him around.

Szymanski claims Al went on to tell him there was a there was a system of tunnels and vaults underground at the WPAFB housing both living and deceased extra-terrestrial beings.

Speaking exclusively to the Sun Online, he said: “I was assigned to the Avionics Laboratory's Management Operations Office to work with my mentor Al, an industrial engineering and MBA graduate.

“During my first week, Al provided me with some totally unexpected and unsolicited sage advice.

In 1947 the military claimed they had recovered a "flying disc", which had crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, but later retracted the statement (pictured, an alien conspiracy theorists believe was recovered from the site)
“He said that in 1947 there was a crash down in Roswell and they brought the machines and the aliens here for inspection and said they keep them in secret tunnels under the base.

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“When I asked him how he came to know about the secret, he responded, 'Everybody who works on base knows’.

“I was stunned. Me, a young co-op student barely into his first week, was now initiated into a small select group of 10,000 people and given their most incredible secret ever - that we have aliens and their craft in our tunnels on our base.’”

Szymanski claims this disc-shaped structure on the Ohio base is an ancient burial ground and believes its size and shape is no coincidence
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Following the bizarre conversation Szymanski began to carry out research into the “secret” UFO and extra-terrestrial activity at WPAFB.

He discovered that The Foreign Technology Division (FTD) on the base housed Project Blue Book, the Air Force's official UFO investigation project from 1952 -1969.

“For the next four decades I had dozens if not hundreds of brief conversations regarding the 'secret' I'd been given during my first week on base,” he said.

In a witness interview that resurfaced in June this year, a police officer claimed he saw soldiers "hauling away a creature" from the crash siteGUZELIAN
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In a witness interview that resurfaced in June this year, a police officer claimed he saw soldiers "hauling away a creature" from the crash site


“The important fact established here is that not one single person at that time ever said, ’We have no aliens here, you crazy son of a b*tch’... I saw lots of smiles but no denials.'

“I’ve been basically investigating locations on the base that I think could contain clues to its history relative to extraterrestrials and UFOs ever since.

“By looking at evidence, which I document in the book in text and photographs, it would appear to me as if the stories are true.”

Szymanski says he’s seen the tunnels and vaults in which aliens - or "greys" - could be kept but as he’s never seen an actual alien he can’t be sure if they are still on the base.

The engineer believes that state-of-the-art climate-controlled facilities and deep underground cyrogenic chambers were built at WPAFB to preserve debris, alien technology artifacts, and corpses recovered from UFO crash sites.

According to UFO researchers, leaked documents and whistleblower reports as many as 14 to 16 alien corpses were transported to WPAFB.

Though Szymanski never encountered any of these greys himself, he claims to have had three separate encounters with real-life "Men In Black" type characters on and around the Dayton base.
He said the men wore black suits and black hats even in the middle of an Ohio summer and spied on him on three occasions.

Szymanski believes the main job of these men is to steal evidence that researchers like himself have acquired on aliens and UFOs, and that they are most likely part of a government agency.

Apart from the underground tunnels, Szymanski also believes there are four potential burial sites on the AFB grounds where aliens have been buried.

Szymanski has pictured one of the sites in his book where, he says, it is quite possible that a 4ft tall alien grey has been laid to rest standing in a vertical standing position as opposed to laying horizontally, as is customary for humans.

Szymanski also suggests that the bodies of eight aliens are buried under a car park next to the Foreign Technologies Division for UFO Reverse Engineering.

The Roswell incident has fascinated UFO hunters and conspiracy theorists ever since the US military announced in a press release they had found the remains of a crashed flying saucer in the New Mexico desert in July 1947.

The following day officials retracted the statement but witnesses came forward to say they saw alien bodies with the crashed craft which were taken away - something the US government has always denied.
Szymanski believes governments have good reason or keeping the existence of aliens under wraps - to keep us safe.

He said: "We still aren’t ready for full disclosure, the governments like to keep secrets cause that’s what keeps us safe sometimes.

"The last time the Air-Force made the announcement ‘hey we’ve got a flying saucer’ that didn’t go so well, so what would happen if they announced it this time?

"I really don’t see a change, I don’t think the fact that we have cell phones or 150,000 cable TV channels will make us any more prepared than the people were in 1947 after Roswell.”

If what Raymond is saying is true, I imagine he'll end up 'dying' as per Phil Schnieder & his disclosures around Dulce Base.
If he remains living, perhaps this might be the ramping up of the fabled disclosure by government of what they know.

Here is a recent video of Raymond that the sun article appears to be quoting:

a reply to: Loopdaloop

He has written this in a book imaginatively called "50 shades of grey

End of story.

A TOP secret US Air Force base contains a vast complex of underground tunnels and vaults filled with living and dead aliens, a former worker at the site has claimed.

Ummm, Top secret, former insider, confesses top secrets...

Well anyway, they aren't there anymore, their Airforce returned in 1952 and got them back.

The US gubment didn't want to give them back, but had to due to 'pressure' applied by them to our "antiquated systems, in all walks of life... all walks of life."

In the Historical, public record that incident is known as "The Washington Flap".

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Loopdaloop

He has written this in a book imaginatively called "50 shades of grey

End of story.

They aren't "Grey".

Warning: ***Gruesome*** autopsy footage...

In almost all the books I have read on ufo's and aliens, invariably, Wright-Patterson is THE base mentioned over and over again as the place that many ufo craft as well as alien bodies, both living and dead go to. It has also been suggested there are many underground levels to this base as well.

He claims his mentor Al asked him, "Have you heard about our aliens?", as he showed him around.

That's a bit of a giveaway - but not a giveaway of a UFO cover-up. It suggests that GS was being encouraged to believe the UFO story. The fact that he reported encountering "a lot of smiles, but no denials" tends to support this.

UFOs and space aliens are so strongly linked to disinformation projects that when you hear of them, you can be pretty sure that you're being distracted from something more substantial.

According to this timeline:

Szymanski retired from WPAFB in September 2011 after nearly 39 years of service.

So he would have started at WPAFB in around 1972. The best part of 25 years after the "Roswell incident." What we're being asked to accept here is that the "Roswell incident" is believed to be real by WPAFB personnel who weren't there at the time it happened, and who will discuss it with any old stranger who pitches up, but at the same time the entire affair has been successfully kept secret since day one. Sorry, I don't buy this.

If his story is true, I have a hard time believing that many involved would have kept the biggest discovery of mankind a secret.

As Fox Mulder said, "I want to believe.", but I feel if we have been contacted by any extra-terrestrials, they would be sending drones. Why travel that far of a distance if you could send a robot in your place? We are just infants when it comes to space travel and we are already doing the same thing in the form of probes and rovers.

originally posted by: audubon

He claims his mentor Al asked him, "Have you heard about our aliens?", as he showed him around.

That's a bit of a giveaway - but not a giveaway of a UFO cover-up. It suggests that GS was being encouraged to believe the UFO story. The fact that he reported encountering "a lot of smiles, but no denials" tends to support this.

Yes.

This story reminds me of the story of Donna Hare at NASA being shown a picture of trees on the moon. It's quite possible she was shown a picture of trees on the moon by pranksters at NASA who knew she was interested in UFO stuff so mocked up a fake picture to get a reaction out of her. It could have happened, but it doesn't mean there are trees on the moon.

Likewise in this story, all he's got is people telling him stories and encountering "a lot of smiles, but no denials", which sounds like a similar thing where others might enjoy getting a reaction out of him when they see he's taking the stories seriously. So I don't have any reason to doubt that people were telling him stories, but I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe stories that Roswell was anything other than what most witnesses consistently described as material that matched the description of a Mogul-type balloon debris.

We also know that Glenn Dennis was owner of the Roswell Museum out in the middle of freaking nowhere and the only way that museum was going to turn a profit was if he made up stories of alien bodies, so he did. He was finally pressured into revealing the name of the nurse who he claimed saw the bodies, and investigators verified no nurse by that name ever existed, end of story. There were no bodies, he made the story up just like he did the nurse's name.

If it means anything, Ohio has some pretty vast natural cave systems out of which an industrious military force might feel like carving out and making some vast underground facilities.

However, I think this guy is full of crap. A guy with a story. You know what impresses me? Evidence.

a reply to: Loopdaloop

I have written a simular book and you can get it free from here.

I also have colleagues who have written numerous books about Roswell and short excerpts from their books can be found here.

I've got to publish my book of how I live near a military base and may have seen something that looked like UFO's and put two and two together. Actually that is true as I do live near a military base and i've seen strange lights that anyone not in know would call UFO's but in reality it was more than likely military chaff.

When it comes to UFO and alien books, not enough people shave with Occam's razor If you know what I mean, there are thousands of UFO books out there, it's like reading the instruction manual to my microwave fifty times over which is why I as a budding author would not touch ufology with a ten foot pole.

A dead horse can only be flogged so much before the jockey jumps off. There are too many writers that are trying to cash in on the UFO craze, which for some reason is still a thing. For every Roswell book that is published, a slither of my soul dies.

a lot of you are saying "they were trying to convince him that aliens were there, to make him believe false things" and "how could no one spill it?"

you guys seem to be supporting your own ideals

if you just go outside and wave down a ship you'll get to see one for yourself

originally posted by: data5091
In almost all the books I have read on ufo's and aliens, invariably, Wright-Patterson is THE base mentioned over and over again as the place that many ufo craft as well as alien bodies, both living and dead go to. It has also been suggested there are many underground levels to this base as well.

It does come up alot, but stories will often piggy back off one another for credibility.

Aliens or no, anyone know if there is an underground network at wright-patterson? Im not sure if even that much is true.

There was a woman who was a clerk at WPAFB who catalogued all the foreign materials who was featured on a MUFON episode, and there have been others who worked on WP base as contractors also reporting about seeing these same things.

If it is all made up, it sure is a funny thing to report since it leads to so many repercussions for those reporting about these things. Based on that alone, there has got to be truth in it. It's just hard for the average person to accept because of decades of secrecy and denial and the amount of ridicule that happens.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Im aware of the June Crain / Kaba interview

www.ufocasebook.com... (lots of interesting files there btw - see www.ufocasebook.com...)

Her credibility is in question as well. Kevin Randle was unable to confirm she ever held a top secret clearance. Kevin's opinion could be wrong and she certainly tells a good story. But given we cant confirm her security clearance, Im not aware of a solid source that can even say there is an underground network. There are underground bases of course, Im just dont think its been established that Wright-Patterson is one of them.

Its been a while since I read all the Len Stringfield reports. I think I remember one of his anonymous sources claiming there are aliens there , but again anonymous, nothing to follow up on.

a reply to: 111DPKING111

Thanks for those links!

Some super information I haven't seen before, very intriguing and worthwhile to read.

There's little money to be made in
UFO books. I believe his story about
WP. I didn't really see the point of him
investigating past famous cases, but it lends
credence to his story as he wasn't a big
name in the UFO world prior to this.
And for sure stranger things have gone on
at bases and especially ones known for Woo Woo.

Are we back to Hangar 18 again?

originally posted by: data5091
In almost all the books I have read on ufo's and aliens, invariably, Wright-Patterson is THE base mentioned over and over again as the place that many ufo craft as well as alien bodies, both living and dead go to. It has also been suggested there are many underground levels to this base as well.

I've always been amused that while everyone is chasing their tail trying to figure out what Area 51 is hiding, Wright Patterson gets to escape scrutiny, basically hiding in plain sight.

a reply to: jtrenthacker

Reading your post the first thing I thought was Drone like bodies capable of holding a consciousness, and that that consciousness could travel distances that would be nearly impossible by our modern standard of aerospace engineering.

If one created a synthetic biological organism, with no consciousness of it's own, and able to withstand interstellar distances with a minimum of life support only to be activated by the consciousness entering the host body to interact with the dominant lifeforms of whatever planet they had been sent to.

While I was musing on this theory, I distinctly heard a voice in my head say:

"TELEMETRICS".

Communication across distances.

Makes sense to me.