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Wow...a REAL conspiracy!

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posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 09:03 AM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Call your doctor and see if you can weasel any samples off of him. Then wean yourself off until the supply is stable.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 09:05 AM

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
My doctor put me on that drug for high blood pressure.
I had a side effect that I couldn't handle, so I was switched to Lisinopril and I had a side affect from it (extremely irritating dry cough) almost immediately and he switched me to another medication (Valsartan) that works and doesn't make me cough.

I know that you can wean off of Atenolol, so I would talk to you doctor if I were you and start the weaning process now.

I was also given Atenolol for high blood pressure but my blood pressure went so low I almost passed out on a train to work. So I stopped taking it. My cholesterol and blood pressure have been great after I lost a lot of weight on Medifast.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 09:46 AM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

If there is a knockoff for anything China has it.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 10:03 AM

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

If there is a knockoff for anything China has it.

True, but they have trouble making dog treats there that are not poisonous to dogs.

I check the labels on food products that I buy to make sure they don't come from China, so I would have to be hurting bad to trust Chinese made pharmaceuticals.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 10:06 AM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Whatever the reason is, the doctors knew it was coming. My cardiologist started weaning me off this med in April. Took three months of lowering the dose. Lots of pounding and erratic heartbeat patterns during that time. I had to wear a Holter monitor for more than half the time.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 10:07 AM
You're fine, just get a prescription for its big brother propranolol, it has the same profile.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 10:23 AM
I was also given Atenolol for high blood pressure but my blood pressure went so low I almost passed out on a train to work. So I stopped taking it. My cholesterol and blood pressure have been great after I lost a lot of weight on Medifast.

The train?

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 10:37 AM
They had me on Atenolol for my tachychardia. It didn't do much other than effect my thinking after taking it for a while. I was on many different Beta blockers in the past because I was having attacks. I went through my medical and medicine receipts about a year ago and noticed that when I was on Beta blockers I was getting Bronchitis and Pleuracy and other lung issues a lot. I mentioned it on here and someone with knowledge of medicines told me that was a common side effect. Of course I researched it and even at the Pharma websites they mentioned it increases those types of lung problems. I won't take it anymore, I found the triggers that caused the rapid bursts and removed that food chemistry from my diet. It just happens that that chemistry and dietary combo is bad for my epilepsy, so the attacks disappeared when I changed my diet for the epilepsy. Kind of nice side effect from having to change the diet to accommodate a metabolic intolerance to the anti-epileptic drugs. The culprit was nitrogen based, I cannot eat a lot of nitrogen containing foods including green veggies and hot sauce and tomatoes. Anything that raises my NO2 levels can increase the risk. I actually love salads, but I can't eat them too often.

If Atenolol works good for you, then it is the right choice. I have a naturally rapid heart rate, that is not the case for most people on the med. My heart normally beats between one hundred ten and one hundred twenty beats per minute and goes up to one sixty or more when I am working. It is hereditary. When it hits over say two hundred and twenty, it starts to get all messed up with the beating. My condition is hereditary, it is an inconvenience and is different than most people have. So what I say about diet may be different than what others have. I am used to the way my heart works, at first I was scared, but I learned how to mostly control it thirty five years ago when I was in my twenties, I learned from my uncle and the doctor who treated my father and uncle for the problem.

But examine your diet and find if certain food chemistry triggers the events. When you take the med, your body aclimates to it and it forms a new normal, so discontinuing the drug might cause symptoms. There are other Beta blockers, I took Inderol, toprol, proponolol, and others over the years. They all had similar side effects. I have low blood volume so that is why my tachychardia can trigger events when the arteries and veins quickly expand. This is different than the majority of problems have where the meds work well.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 11:11 AM

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
And it affects me personally too. I don't have much time to post, but I'll try to capture the relevant points and come back with more later...

I have to take a drug known as 'Atenolol' for periodic cardiac arrhythmia (A-fib). Last night I was informed by my prescribing doctor that there is a Worldwide shortage of Atenolol...and they don't know why. I've been taking the drug for several years, and the problem, as I understand it is, there are some fairly severe withdrawal effects (they call it "rebound") from not taking it or stopping abruptly. Scarier still is one of the side effects is fairly severe cardiac arrhythmia (the very reason I'm on the drug to begin with)...up to and including death from cardiac arrest or stroke!

This all started when I noticed my mail in prescription service mysteriously cancelled my prescription for no reason. After trying to deal with them to no avail, I contacted my doctor. After the run-around there for a while I had to leave a message with this other person in their office. Well, they called back (at my home number which I specifically instructed them NOT to do) and left this cryptic message about the Atenolol issue.

Following the voice-mail I started doing some research. Sure enough, the web is full of articles about a Worldwide "crisis" with Atenolol. Tens of Millions of people are prescribed this drug, and there's really no alternative. Atenolol is a generic, and the non-generic version is like 3,500% more expensive (think several hundred dollars for 30 tabs vs. six dollars for 90 tabs of Atenolol).

Here's just two examples (of thousands) of what I'm talking about...

Collusion or Coincidence

Critical Atenolol Shortage

According to what I've found so far, there are six (6) manufacturers who manufacture Atenolol. All six have mysteriously suspended production. Their "excuses" for why range from 'unknown' to 'active ingredient shortage' (likely a ruse).

This whole thing smacks of a ruse to make money. Even physicians are saying the same thing. The problem though can DIE if you don't take it. And apparently, it's not just as simple as not taking it, you have to be weaned off of it because it affects adrenalin production. Adrenalin left unchecked, after you've been taking atenolol, can cause severe BP issues as well as cardiac issues. They don't tell you all this stuff when they put you on it initially. And there's just no explanation forthcoming for why production has stopped. This is CRIMINAL!!

So now, here I sit with less than two weeks supply remaining and no viable alternative.

If this doesn't qualify for a true conspiracy...I don't know what does!!

Just my take on your problem....forget about the conspiracy and get yourself weaned off this drug and on to one that that will work for you. I've had a-fib for almost 20 years ...tried digitek, digoxin and now on metoprolol and flecainide acetate after having an ablation to correct the a-fib. The ablation only worked for a few months and then I got some other minor arrhythmia , which was corrected with metoprolol and flecainide acetate. My solution to a-fib is no alcohol, no caffeine, no nicotine and lots of exercise......

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 11:47 AM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

here is some information about the generic form of atenolol, Tenormin

It looks to me that they are trying real hard to switch people to Tenormin because Atenolol is being counterfeited.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:00 PM

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

...there are six (6) manufacturers who manufacture Atenolol. All six have mysteriously suspended production. Their "excuses" for why range from 'unknown' to 'active ingredient shortage' (likely a ruse).

Maybe it's a ruse, but I'm not sure why you think it is "likely" a ruse.

Let's say there were only six companies that made mercury thermometers. None of those six companies mine or produce their own mercury, but are instead beholden to the few companies in the world that mine for mercury. If for some reason mercury mining and/or refining hits a slowdown, then all six of those mercury thermometer companies may end up with shortages of thermometers that would be available to be sold.

Therefore "active ingredient shortage" for Atenolol could be a real problem if the companies producing that active ingredient (different than the six pharma companies who make Atenolol) have issues with production of that active ingredient.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:22 PM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

That really sucks. Are there any protocols that your cardiologist can get you on? Any alternatives to "cold turkey?"

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:38 PM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Nibiru is incoming shortly.......everything is being hoarded globally now by holds barred....they do not care if we postulate here or display some evidence.....primary objective is hoarding everything now......loose ends no longer matter. shortages of critical materials.

Its a dog eat dog world.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:43 PM
Two weeks supply sounds like a lot... To avoid the severe withdrawal i would advise weaning yourself off it now... see if you can make that supply last 3 months... im not a doctor so dont hold me to account if you try it and it goes wrong... im just telling you what i would do if i was in your situation..
good luck

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:50 PM
I assume OP is a US citizen.

This is actually a good thing, insomuch as its capitalism in action (the very foundation of US medical ideology right now). Is the OP suggesting that hyper successful CEO's and titan's of capitalism intentionally depress the value of their product (or not actively engage in activities that seek to raise their shareholders value - such as strategically limiting factors that contribute to their competitors generic alternatives)?

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 02:32 PM

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
OP start cutting what you take now then. I would not expect it to be available in a few weeks. I know what I said is easier said then done but what choice do you have? Good luck and I hope this gets resolved soon for you!

You can turn two weeks supply to one month.

Cut your dosage in half.

Also, if you run out it will be less severe withdrawal.

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 03:26 PM
a reply to: AMNicks

Exactly, innovation would dry up and the government simply would not be able to handle the production of all the medicines currently produced by private businesses. We all know how inefficient the government is at planning and carrying out plans, asking them produce all the medicine we need is not going to end well I can assure you... also there's the issue of having to trust the government not to mess with the ingredients or force people onto drugs they don't need, just like water fluoridation. It is a mass medication scheme of which no one is able to consent, the government really couldn't care less about the health of people, all they care about is sucking tax money from people.
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posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 04:10 PM
a reply to: TrueBrit

True, but then again the private companies have tons of money to invest in research, da gubmint doesn't.

Big Pharma isn't called Big for nothing, and if the Bayer-Monsanto fusion goes through it will be the single biggest supplier of drugs on the planet!

The cancer scam is a good example. Put sugar in everything, add some pollution to the atmosphere & the occasional toxic chem/nuclear leak, and you have a thriving industry that's good for almost 80 Bn a year. That's Billions of dollars.

Who get's most of that cash? the above companies, and Phillips and Siemens for making all the hospital scanning & (incredibly barbaric) chemo & collimated beam gamma ray 'treatment'.

Maybe you should try CBD oil (cannabis oil) it apparently works not only for the big C but plenty of other problems as well. It may help your heart problem also. Make sure to use the 'raw' version it contains different cannabinoids to the cheaper treated version. these are not foreighn substances as they would have you believe, our bodies used to make these chemicals by themselves, we even have built-in cannabinoid receptors, and have had them for 60 million years (i'm speaking all vertebrates not just humans) while the wicked weed plant has only been around for about 12 million years. Go figure.

The history of medicine;
1000 BC: Eat this herb

1400 AD: Let these leeches have a suck on you

1950; Take an Aspirin

1970; Take a Paracetamol

1990; Take a Neurofen

2000; Eat this herb

posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 04:36 PM
That sounds like a terrible predicament to be in.
I hope you can get the meds.

Canada has a shortage , but it says it's been resolved

I don't know if this is helpful

This shortage has been resolved as bottles of 100s available


posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 06:59 PM
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks


Counterfeited... hmmm ?

A. Same benefits but cheap and easy to make
B. Same brand name, no function, dangerous

My guess ... A !

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