Boxing isn't MMA

The lesson for tonight...

Just as the title says... You can't hammerfist in boxing...

You can't clutch your opponents gloves... and then dance around behind them and punch them in the back of the head... which isn't UFC rules either...

Boxing IS the sweet science... something MMA will never be....

and we barely watched boxing in this match

IF it wasn't these two superstars of media...a fight that was beyond "hyped".. that fight would have been booed... all day

an obvious result with a million dollar paycheck.. easy money... and a 50-0 result... which would have been 49-1 if Mayweather faced any body else the way he was fighting tonight

So into the record books he goes... 50-0

A sad.. disappointing last battle...

One that will go down in history as

profitable

a reply to: Akragon

Okay bare with me because I know as much about Boxing and MMA as I do about that strange old lady who lives down my road who screams "My shoes, my shadow has stolen my shoes" while pointing at her own shadow but even I could see that the rules for the boxing last night were being skirted. There were points when it looked like Connor was trying to grab round Floyd to lift him up at a few points and the head pounding, isn't that illegal? Was there some sort of agreement that the rules would be softer in this match or something?

Personally I don't know enough about boxing rules to know if this was "out of bounds".
I wish they would bring back the no rules type of mma. No time limits, no gloves.
I want to see some real fights.

a reply to: Akragon

A sad.. disappointing last battle...

I didn't watch the show but agreed , the whole event was a sad display of greed over ethics.
Glad Mayweather won , glad it's over and hope it won't happen again , the only winners were the money men.

Conner had so much forgiveness... No points taken

This fight was a set up... Real, ya probably

But the outcome was obvious... It was all about money

And it was stopped short so the UFC prize fighter wasn't damaged...

Even in mayweather's 2 year absence in the ring... He went so easy on him

I boxed for two years back in the day.. And i would have gladly stood toe to toe with mayweather if he puppied me like that.. For a few million bucks. No way in hell when he was actually fighting

End result... Floyd gets the 50-0

$$$$$$$$ for both of them...

And maybe boxing gets a little more publicity for what it actually is

🙂

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
Personally I don't know enough about boxing rules to know if this was "out of bounds".
I wish they would bring back the no rules type of mma. No time limits, no gloves.
I want to see some real fights.

Head to any city in the North of England on a Saturday night around closing time....



RA

I am glad that we didn´t have such a hype here in Germany, about that "greatest of all fights"(or similiar).
When i first heard that a boxer should fight a MMA fighter, i thought great, but the boxer will have no chance.

Then i heard that the MMA fighter has to box and not use MMA.
That was the end for my interest in that show event.

Here in Germany you could even watch it for free, you just had to subscribe somewhere and after watching the fight, you just had to cancel the membership again. But it was in the middle of the night and not worth for me to stay up. Would have been different if this fight would have been a fight between boxing and MMA, and not the fight between a boxer and a MMA fighter that isn´t allowed to use MMA but has just to box.

It´s like you take a football(not hand-egg!) player and force him to play handball, by handball rules.

To be honest, i stopped watching boxing after Mike Tyson quit, because boxing became too boring. And started to watch MMA. Why not using your legs and whole body in a fight?

But then, the more and more rules were forced on MMA, to guarantee bulk suitability, to turn MMA fights into "bling bling VIP" and family events to make the big money, when the fighters started to choke each other for 15 minutes instead of "Kung FU movie style" fighting(that i hoped for), i quit watching that. It became to boring and mainstream, too.

Now i rather read, play games, watch movies or do anything else than to watch boxing or MMA...

I maybe would watch a fight between Mayweather and McGregor if both are allowed to use their style. If Mayweather just wants to box, his problem. That would be interesting. Or maybe not, Mayweather wouldn´t make three minutes...

a reply to: Akragon

MMA is absolutely a sweet science, I couldn't disagree more with that sentiment.
In fact it is many sweet sciences combined, a true showing of kinaesthetic intelligence.

Besides that, I couldn't agree more man. I am sure glad it is over.
Profitable, for sure. But I think it was bad for both sports in the end.

Yeah it became pretty obvious when mayweather started to turn it on around the 7th. Mcgregor had been saying he was expecting to be over reffed but then felt free to throw those hammer punches.

In my opinion had it been real McGregor would have been enraged to have it called so quickly while he was still on his feet; but he hardly reacted.

The amount of money tied up in this match was insane. The Purse was supposed to be around 300 million dollars with a rumored 70/30 split in mayweather's favor. Mayweather also had about 30 million in endorsements for his trunks and various ringwear.

a reply to: Akragon

and we barely watched boxing in this match

Bites tongue for you.

You can't clutch your opponents gloves... and then dance around behind them and punch them in the back of the head... which isn't UFC rules either...

Agreed. McGregor got away with that a lot. Should have cost him points. Otherwise it was Mayweathers tactic to wait out the storm of Pride, tiring his opponent out, then going after him. It worked.

McGregors antics were due to frustration. Mayweather is really good at slipping punches.

Condensed version...

a reply to: Akragon

Yes kind of like a pro baseball player and a pro baseball player,they may be good at both sports,but they excel at one

a reply to: Akragon

MMA isn't a sport, it's blood lust.

Punching a person while on the ground in an non life threatening scenario is just gross and only appeals to the micro phallics out there. I enjoy a good bout of pugilism but there is sportsmanship and there is douchebag showboating.

Here's a question, why aren't eastern martial arts in the MMA? because they are too freaking dangerous and many practitioners know this, they are humble kickers of asses not someone who fights for glory and recognition.

They are two different sports with different tactics and different styles.

What you saw was similar to an attempt to match up the best soccer team to the best football team and wondering why one didn't win depending on which ruleset was used.

We all have our preferences for different sports.

MacGregor is very very good at what he does and Mayweather is very very good at what he does. The reality is that what each one does is very loosely related to the what the other does. They are sports that involved fighting other men and that's about it. Oh, and there is punching involved.

Similarly, football and soccer are sports involving teams and balls. On and there is kicking involved.

#1 it's more like 100 mil FM, 30 mil CM
#2 MMA is a bit more realistic if that makes sense. Boxing is boring, MMA is a bit more real life bar room brawl.
#3 we can gripe about the whoredom of this event all we want, but it was a HUGE event and if you wouldn't put yourself in there for a 30 mil payday you are an incredible wimp or liar.

I did American freestyle kickboxing for years and I loved it. I'm 6' 190lbs (ripped at the time) and I was sparring 250lb black belts without headgear. Let them hit the ground before you call a fight this big!! Anything can happen.
I liked what I was doing because there was no ground game (to me that's when it gets boring), but ground game would still be more realistic, just boring. Like boxing! And featherweight's?!?!
You aren't going to kill a man at 140lbs throwing punches.
Congrats to them on a very successful business venture. And I thought it was more exciting than your average boxing match.

a reply to: Akragon

Did you really just claim boxing was more technical than mma?!?!


You do realize that if anything the ability to use more combat moves would increase the difficulty and skill level required to be great....


I'm not even a super fan of either one.. but that's the most biased BS thing I've ever heard lol..

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Akragon

Did you really just claim boxing was more technical than mma?!?!


You do realize that if anything the ability to use more combat moves would increase the difficulty and skill level required to be great....


I'm not even a super fan of either one.. but that's the most biased BS thing I've ever heard lol..

No both of your statements are flawed
To be the best boxer in the world you have to be the best at your skill level on an even field
As well as a mma fighter, the best at your skill level

They are different sports, to make it to the top, you have to be the best at that sport and skill.

A boxer will always win a boxing match baring any flukes
Macgregor proved today he is a great fighter, no question.

He just couldn't beat a boxer boxing

Mayweather will never fight anyone mma style, he isn't good enough

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Akragon

Did you really just claim boxing was more technical than mma?!?!


You do realize that if anything the ability to use more combat moves would increase the difficulty and skill level required to be great....


I'm not even a super fan of either one.. but that's the most biased BS thing I've ever heard lol..

Boxing is one of the most technical sports EVER.

Joshua.

originally posted by: Akragon
Boxing IS the sweet science...

Yeah, you lost me there.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie

Here's a question, why aren't eastern martial arts in the MMA? because they are too freaking dangerous and many practitioners know this, they are humble kickers of asses not someone who fights for glory and recognition.

that is a hilarious statement

a reply to: Josephus

Were you watching the fight? He can't be angry it was called 'while he was on his feet' because the ref was protecting him. Seriously. Watch the end again. McGregor doesn't even have his hands up; he's just stumbling backwards taking blow after blow to the head again and again with no awareness, movement, or any kind of defense or protection. He was out on his feet. It was perfectly reasonable to call it off there. I don't see how he can even pretend to be angry or say it was called too soon unless he is just out of touch with reality.

You seem to be saying it was fake or something because it was 'called so quickly', but that isn't what it looked like to me.