U.S. Senate Wants To Label WikiLeaks A “Non-State Hostile Intelligence Service”

I am conflicted on this.

What happened should not be happening.

Political corruption

Foreign actors interjecting themselves in to our snip show.

Both are wrong.

But at the same time most of what we know came from a foreign actor.

Think I will sit on the side lines on this one.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: the2ofusr1

Not a whole lot.
Reporting wrong doing to authorities is one thing.
Publishing is a bit different.

And what if, after reporting it, your government does nothing?

a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

Then go to the press.
But try the chain of command first.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: xuenchen

Which one are we referring to here?

Seems to me that in any one context, regarding any one event or chain thereof, there are far too many strategies being enacted at any one time, to easily pick out which one you might be referring to in any given matter.

Care to clarify?

Clarification:

You're not "getting" the strategy.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I know this is moving way out there but if wikileaks had released Emails on the Trump side showing what we seen in the other leaks ,would it be considered the same deal ? ...I mean because then the left MSM and all anti-Trump sides would have to think it a great service would they not ? I mean they are ok with things like collateral damage every time a bomb is dropped but are concerned either with Hillary's loss or Donald's win . Maybe its a measure so that they don't loose the information war again ...The Awan's theft of Govt. data with the blackberries should have both houses and all branches of Govt. scrambling to address that even though none of its being distributed ...I mean what did they actually steal besides what ever they wanted unlike Wikileaks who usually vetts their stuff .

a reply to: Bluntone22

Edward Snowden did exactly that, then he leaked. Thanks for playing though.

a reply to: the2ofusr1

I think we all know things are definitely not judged equally.
Someone hacks a political party computer,
That's good.
Someone hack a million credit card numbers,
That's bad.

A hack is a hack.

a reply to: 727Sky

They need to focus on and punish CNN as a USA-based traitor.

originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: Bluntone22

Edward Snowden did exactly that, then he leaked. Thanks for playing though.

Where did I say anything about snowden?
I was talking about wikileaks publishing stolen info.

a reply to: Bluntone22

A hack is a hack.

we were told it was a hack but it may have been a leak . just saying

a reply to: Bluntone22

We are talking about wikileaks, but also leaking in general. As far as the stolen claim goes, if a government is not transparent, why should information be a crime?

a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

The information is not the crime as much as the way it's obtained. We may never know the whole story.

a reply to: Bluntone22

So, tu summarise, you are saying than an employee of the government who leaks "secret" information is immediately "in the wrong" for leaking previously unknown and illegal activity which said government had no "clearance" to enact?

Yet people will vote these clowns in the Senate back into office.

These senators could loot people's houses, leave a card saying vote for me again, and people would.

a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

What I think doesn't really matter.
Correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand the snowden situation, he has committed a crime.
I'm not saying it's right.
I do believe there should be protections for whistleblowers exposing crimes.
Do those protections exist today?

a reply to: Bluntone22

Incorrect. Snowden had legal and lawful access to government information (being an employee of the government or a contractor thereof) and saw that the government had overstepped it's legal boundary by miles and did so on a regular basis. He raised his concerns on more than one occasion with superiors only to be ignored multiple times. Then he leaked.

What was your point again? Illegal activity?

Hostile Intelligence Service or HoIS

Used to be code words for the gloves are off and the bad guys can be sanctioned using only local discretion.

To put it mildly, that's one label that would put the fear of God into me, if the finger was pointed anywhere in my general direction.

Yes, it is shocking that he's not been silenced some how.

This move by some in Congress is horrible.

He must have something on the senatea reply to: 727Sky

a reply to: Snarl

The words .. " Gloves off " ...

Gives me the shivers @nothanks !