Movement for Black Lives Ideology Is Nazism, But For Black People

I keep seeing people claiming that there is no moral equivalence between groups like BLM and the Nazi party. That would be true (until today, I agreed on principle), except that it's not. I was perusing the BLM website and reading through their platform and it struck me how it's almost Identical to the American Nazi Party platform, but instead of aryan race issues, it was black race issues. I'll list the similarities.

Both want:
1) No more fossil fuels, green energy
2) Universal healthcare
3) Free* education (nothing's free, they want tax payers to fund it. BLM wants it for black people, Nazi's want it for aryans)
4) Cut the military
5) Redistribution of wealth (both actually use this term)
6) Take over banking
7) Interest free loans
8) Guaranteed income (BLM wants this only for black people, Nazi's only for aryans)
9) Nullify current debts (BLM says student loans, Nazi's say all usurious debt)
10) Free land (BLM wants it for black people, Nazi's want it for aryans)
11) Want to modify political power structure to overcome perceived current disadvantage

Here's where they diverge:
1) Nazi's want all peoples to be free in the US, but only Aryans can be citizens
2) BLM wants wants the criminal justice system disbanded (literally no more prisons)
3) One of the biggest differences is the way they sell it. By that I mean the way they talk about race issues in their platforms. The Nazi's sell it as though they're gods (supremacists), deserving of a handout, denied them by jewish people. BLM sells it as the oppressed, deserving of a handout, denied them by white people. Neither takes any kind of responsibility for their current circumstances being less than what they want, they look to shift that blame onto another race of people (BLM, Whites. Nazi's, Jews.). But really, with their goals being so similar, this just seems like salesmanship.

The similarities make me wonder if both of these groups aren't backed by the same people who want these policies and pray on the weak minded to gin up support for their policies.

Movement for Black Lives Platform
Nazi Platform

The obvious parallels go without saying. Their actions = incriminating evidence.

a reply to: Dfairlite

I would say that you are right about it being similar to Nazism. The roots of this came from "collectivism" or Cultural Marxism. Pointing the finger, political correctness, division, sexual deviation, and many more things came from Cultural Marxism.

Here's a pretty good documentary on it. There are lots of other good ones too. I just picked a random one. I am watching it in the background, and it is hitting a lot of the key points:



Edit: Nazism is usually supported by Ultra-Right (corporate) Fascism. That is why I say that the protest groups are more akin to Cultural Marxism. TRUE FREEDOM IS FREEDOM FROM ALL OF THE ISM's! We don't want Fascism. We don't want Cultural Marxism. We don't want any ISM! We want FREEDOM!

Reparations will never fly, and the notions of 'all' free stuff will fail as well. This is capitalism. American Indians would be in line first in my estimation. Fossil fuel consumption cessation.... good luck with that. Universal health care might be doable if we didn't have multi millions of Illegal aliens leeching the system dry.

Free education and free land... never happen for anyone of any color. Again, capitalism.
Take over banking and interest free loans, again, more of not going to happen.

Cut the military. If not for the military many, many Blacks would not have a source of income.
Guarantee income and nullify current debt. That will never happen in capitalism either.

Stay in school
Don't do drugs
Work for a living
Do something with your lives productive. Not destructive and in hate.

But the path of least resistance is open to all and Well traveled.

a reply to: Dfairlite

It's like, if you're a cheater and cheat to win, why wouldn't play both sides here.

If either take root, you have what you want. If the government "plays nice and meets their demands" they still win.

It does seem like an engineering of wants though. This is what I have been saying on threads for a while now, that we need to all come together and see what we agree on... But this is ridiculous lol.

Queue Admiral Akbar, "it's a trap!"

They being TPTB, deep state, ... Ooohhhh should I said it... Soros types.

You know how BLM is a loose coalition of local movements and not a singular organization with specifically outlined directives or official spokespeople right?

Many of which do lots of small community improvement oriented stuff to fix issues they suffer at the local levels, as well as occasionally endorsing or participating in demonstrations that matter to those communities?

While loud idiots are attracted to the lime light, a portion of the "worst-of"s that people cite are only there because it helps drive the narrative, maintains division, and allows people like the OP to openly denounce any valid points made by throwing the baby out with the bath water.

There's more "fake news" than ever out there, best be mindful of it.

a reply to: eNumbra

At no point did I say that there were zero valid points on either side.

Also, your first paragraph is completely false. Do a little research. Those small groups you speak of are the 'useful idiots' as they're called. But there certainly is a platform and there are certainly spokespeople (otherwise, who did Obama invite to the Whitehouse? Who did he meet with at the policing conference?)

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: eNumbra

At no point did I say that there were zero valid points on either side.

Sorry, what were the pros of Nazism, then?

You left out that the American Nazi Party's apparent greatest concern is the "dangers" of illegal immigration; I wonder what political group also has that primary concern, eh?

You also dramatically paraphrased everything said on either site to force this absurd comparison. Why don't you try QUOTING from your source material if you're interested in intellectual integrity at all?

But, hey, it looks like you're more interested Stars and Bars, er, I mean Flags, right? I'm sure the faithful will supply that for you.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Maybe you should try reading the OP and commenting on topic.

a reply to: eNumbra

LOL good try. Nazism is the ideology. There are no pro's to it. Just like there are no pro's to the BLM ideology. They may have valid points here or there, but that's it.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Gryphon66

Maybe you should try reading the OP and commenting on topic.

Already did both.

Are you denying that on the page you link to (which is the Nazi home page) the first paragraph and the primary concern is about America being contaminated by "illegal immigration"? That it is fear-mongering about the loss of American jobs, property and position to "NON-WHITE" people?

Did you not link to the American Nazi page intentionally? Is that not part of your ridiculous claim?

Grow up and address valid criticisms or don't waste my time. Why did you choose to blatantly paraphrase two totally different platforms to make them seem similar? Why don't you QUOTE from your sources rather than misrepresenting them?

Perhaps you need to read your own OP again? You seem not to remember what you've claimed.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: eNumbra

LOL good try. Nazism is the ideology. There are no pro's to it. Just like there are no pro's to the BLM ideology. They may have valid points here or there, but that's it.

Except once again, there is no "BLM Ideology" other than the belief that black Americans suffer an inequality at the hands of the system.

You know how many of our members were complaining that you can't compare everything to Nazism? Well since I don't foresee many of them coming in here to say it... you can't compare everything to Nazism.

BLM is not an organized group or set of ideologies that even remotely resembles nazism at any level other than a cursory parade of semantics.

a reply to: eNumbra

The OP conveniently ignores the fact that if one were to compare the actual PLATFORMS of the two groups, in fact, BLM and the American Nazi Party are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER, as the fundamental raison d'etre of the Nazis is White Supremacy, and that's one of the primary issues that BLM stands against.

But, you know, that's actually FACTUAL as opposed to the FICTION in the OP.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: eNumbra

The OP conveniently ignores the fact that if one were to compare the actual PLATFORMS of the two groups, in fact, BLM and the American Nazi Party are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER, as the fundamental raison d'etre of the Nazis is White Supremacy, and that's one of the primary issues that BLM stands against.

But, you know, that's actually FACTUAL as opposed to the FICTION in the OP.

He stated himself the nazis may have some valid points to be made.

It's obvious where his agenda lies.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I certainly did. I'm not sure what you think your valid criticism was? You found a point where they have a disagreement? Oh man, that means all of the other areas they're in agreement on are completely debunked! /s

As for why I didn't quote, I don't have access to the nazi party site through my current connection. It is blocked. I had to go off memory and all of the similarities I listed I can quote for you later if you are so lazy as to not read it yourself.

a reply to: eNumbra

Do you agree that all people in the US should be free? Oh noes! You agree with a nazi!

a reply to: eNumbra

Well, we would all like for ATS readers interested in the rampant dishonesty portrayed in the OP to go to the two sites and see for themselves that the list of "similarities" is basically a total fabrication.

For example, nowhere on either site is "Green Energy" praised or endorsed. Yet, that's a dog whistle for the OP's actual narrative.

The entire OP is nothing more than one huge strawman argument, and borders on pure hoax and blatant dishonesty.

a reply to: Gryphon66

If you had any reading comprehension skill or critical thinking skills you would recognize that I never said they wouldn't hate each other. Just like how communists and socialists don't get along, despite having very similar goals.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Actually it is, on both. I believe one says green the other says renewable.