I'm Done With The Left's Nonsense

a reply to: alphabetaone

"By what or whom? That's what I'm talking about, enemies don't surround you, citizens of this country do."

When citizens of this country try to take my rights, any of them, away, then I have my weapons in hand. The safety may still be on, but I will defend myself and my family as needed.

If you are the same way, good for you. Be proud. Be safe. Be armed.

Fred

originally posted by: fredrodgers1960
a reply to: alphabetaone

"By what or whom? That's what I'm talking about, enemies don't surround you, citizens of this country do."

When citizens of this country try to take my rights, any of them, away, then I have my weapons in hand. The safety may still be on, but I will defend myself and my family as needed.

If you are the same way, good for you. Be proud. Be safe. Be armed.

Fred

Fred,

Just so you understand, I'm not in stark disagreement with you, I simply find having an objective approach, one that is laden with pragmatism, a necessity in these times as opposed to espousing knee-jerk reactions....that's really about the extent of it. If you recall your firearms training "always know whats behind that target before you pull the trigger"...that's really all I'm saying here. There is too much emotionally driven outrage on these forums in my honest opinion.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: fredrodgers1960
a reply to: alphabetaone

"By what or whom? That's what I'm talking about, enemies don't surround you, citizens of this country do."

When citizens of this country try to take my rights, any of them, away, then I have my weapons in hand. The safety may still be on, but I will defend myself and my family as needed.

If you are the same way, good for you. Be proud. Be safe. Be armed.

Fred

Fred,

Just so you understand, I'm not in stark disagreement with you, I simply find having an objective approach, one that is laden with pragmatism, a necessity in these times as opposed to espousing knee-jerk reactions....that's really about the extent of it. If you recall your firearms training "always know whats behind that target before you pull the trigger"...that's really all I'm saying here. There is too much emotionally driven outrage on these forums in my honest opinion.

I'm sorry, but if what we are seeing with the extreme left and the complete garbage that is being thrown out there, a knee jerk reaction is what is going to happen.

I have seen open threats against just about every race on the planet. Hatred of anyone that doesn't see the same way as someone.

I am just saying that I will defend my family, self, and everyone else and their rights to express themselves with free speech, even those stupid KKKer's, they have the right to say what they wish.

Violence is where the line gets drawn. If that continues, and if this is taken to the extremes that it appears it is about to, things are going to get ugly, quickly.

Myself and family are readily prepared.

originally posted by: fredrodgers1960

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: fredrodgers1960
a reply to: alphabetaone

"By what or whom? That's what I'm talking about, enemies don't surround you, citizens of this country do."

When citizens of this country try to take my rights, any of them, away, then I have my weapons in hand. The safety may still be on, but I will defend myself and my family as needed.

If you are the same way, good for you. Be proud. Be safe. Be armed.

Fred

Fred,

Just so you understand, I'm not in stark disagreement with you, I simply find having an objective approach, one that is laden with pragmatism, a necessity in these times as opposed to espousing knee-jerk reactions....that's really about the extent of it. If you recall your firearms training "always know whats behind that target before you pull the trigger"...that's really all I'm saying here. There is too much emotionally driven outrage on these forums in my honest opinion.

I'm sorry, but if what we are seeing with the extreme left and the complete garbage that is being thrown out there, a knee jerk reaction is what is going to happen.

I have seen open threats against just about every race on the planet. Hatred of anyone that doesn't see the same way as someone.

I am just saying that I will defend my family, self, and everyone else and their rights to express themselves with free speech, even those stupid KKKer's, they have the right to say what they wish.

Violence is where the line gets drawn. If that continues, and if this is taken to the extremes that it appears it is about to, things are going to get ugly, quickly.

Myself and family are readily prepared.

Well, then we are saying exactly the same thing. Yourself and your family are prepared, which is the exact opposite of a knee-jerk reaction...an action that takes place due to poor preparation and unexpectedly.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

Give these people stuck in the past some time......they'll dust off the 'white only' signs and enforce it in reverse. Because it is not about the progression of our society, it is all about destruction and reversal of gains made.

Worse, at least to me it seems, that an UNbalanced scale is what is being fought over, not a balanced one. And to me, that's just incredibly stupid....what's the point in fighting for equality if one is going to foment inequality in the process?

I so agree with you .... and hate the leaning toward *positive discrimination*

which seems to be the way things are going....

Firstly whatever the end game is it should be awarded on *merit* and not on

any minority status.

Positive discrimination advocates for 50/50 whereas if it was truly to be fair it

would be judged by % of the minority.

So in theory if the minority concerned was 10% of the population that, and not

50% surely should be the yardstick of equality??

a reply to: FissionSurplus

I'm looking to retire in Georgia next April,on 12,000 acres,with a few old buds,I'm a retired civil engineer,so we can buy some old grading equipment and build us a fortress,I can draw a survey plan,or structual plan,and I can also operate equipment,although I am disabled,we are under no deadline,just the ends of our lives,will be fun building hydro electric,windmills,solar panels,plus a river runs through property,all the things you can't do in Calif without a permit,I too am tired of the progressives,who want to erase history,constitution,genders,social project of government,create hostile environments,eveyone should be left alone,and hopefully no MSM crap on radio or,tv,internet

The "Left" has its problems. But, no one can destroy like the "Right" with their elected destroyers.

Reagan was elected to destroy the power of the laborers.
Bush was elected to destroy the power of the Constitution and peace.
Trump was elected to destroy the last president and Hillary Clinton.

I just didn't think he would push us to a nuclear war with NK.

originally posted by: MOMof3
I just didn't think he would push us to a nuclear war with NK.

What makes you think Trump is doing the pushing? It seems that Lil' Kim is pushing. If he wasn't firing off missiles and testing atomic bombs, NK would just be a dark spot on the map that no one would care about.

a reply to: FissionSurplus

My favorite time of year!

a reply to: pteridine

Trump supporters would give him their daughters if he asked. Your opinions are worthless.

a reply to: pteridine
Two psychos playing war games and involving the children of the world in their paycho heads. One of the psychos will lose all touch with reality.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pteridine

Trump supporters would give him their daughters if he asked. Your opinions are worthless.

Many people who voted for Trump were voting against the criminal elements in the Democratic party. You know this to be true yet you ascribe to those who voted against Hillary some fervent support for Trump.

Are you working yourself into a frenzy again?

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pteridine
Two psychos playing war games and involving the children of the world in their paycho heads. One of the psychos will lose all touch with reality.

The psycho is firing ballistic missiles over Japan and live-testing nukes. He is also threatening the US with said nukes and even has China worried. He should be removed, soon.

You forgot the "think of the chillldrenn!" line.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pteridine

Trump supporters would give him their daughters if he asked. Your opinions are worthless.

Excuse me, but WHAT?? This may in fact be the most insane post that I've ever seen, across the entire internet. Talk about worthless opinions.

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: FissionSurplus

I'm looking to retire in Georgia next April,on 12,000 acres,with a few old buds,I'm a retired civil engineer,so we can buy some old grading equipment and build us a fortress,I can draw a survey plan,or structual plan,and I can also operate equipment,although I am disabled,we are under no deadline,just the ends of our lives,will be fun building hydro electric,windmills,solar panels,plus a river runs through property,all the things you can't do in Calif without a permit,I too am tired of the progressives,who want to erase history,constitution,genders,social project of government,create hostile environments,eveyone should be left alone,and hopefully no MSM crap on radio or,tv,internet

Georgia , one of the few bastions of civil society left.
Come on over .
No need for a fortress here . When the sh** starts , the authorities takes care of it quickly and efficiently

a reply to: pteridine

Charges? Court? Jail? No. Then it's all bs. I'm sorry you all were duped by party politics and fake news from Russia. You're the laughing stock of the globe.

a reply to: MOMof3

I love how everyone just moved on from this, it was all they talked about during the election. Then it got dropped as soon as it was over and everyone moved onto the next BS spouted. Mindless idiots.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pteridine

Charges? Court? Jail? No. Then it's all bs. I'm sorry you all were duped by party politics and fake news from Russia. You're the laughing stock of the globe.

A criminal element may not be charged but that does not make it any less criminal. I am an Independent and the Podesta emails were a revelation. Hilly seemed really on top of things during a debate with Trump and then we discovered that she had the questions in advance, thanks to Brazile. The Hillary coven further stacked the deck and cheated Bernie. Comey was following orders from Lynch regarding prosecution for mishandling of classified material and the entire "intent" rationale was a smokescreen. Intent is needed to prove espionage but not indifference. Lynch was promised that AG job in the Administration so she had a vested interest in no prosecution. Hilly wasn't doing espionage, she was just doing greed and pay for play via the Clinton Foundation cash cow. Likely, with all the destruction of evidence, a case can be made for obstruction of justice and most of the DNC leadership is at risk should Sessions go after them.
As to the laughing stock of the globe, that title belongs to Hillary Rodham Clinton and her supporters. Her inability to admit that she was such a poor candidate with so much baggage that even The Donald could beat her is telling. I think this last really sticks in the craws of the Dems because she was likely the only candidate that could lose to Trump. Supporters were so intent on her gender that they ignored everything else and were counting on victory. When that didn't happen, the wailing and gnashing of teeth was unprecedented in US history. Had she won, a Nobel for being elected while female was in the offing, much like Obama's prize for being elected while half-black.
The DNC should clean house and become the party of the common citizen [again] instead of the left fringe. Even the dolts like Schumer and Pelosi are starting to realize that a centrist movement will help the Dems.

You are so angry at being let down by the DNC that you have only contemptuous words for others and are unable to debate in a rational manner.

a reply to: pteridine

I've been around for a while. I never expect purity of behavior from any rich politician.

Trying to debate with lies is futile.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pteridine

I've been around for a while. I never expect purity of behavior from any rich politician.

Trying to debate with lies is futile.

What lies are you trying to debate with? The Podesta emails are real and their authenticity has never been denied by those involved. Bernie did get cheated by the DNC coven but that wasn't illegal as it was internal to the party. It does show a trend. The Weiner did have classified material on his computer via Huma. Hilly's Filipino maid did print out TS Compartmented emails for Hilly.
Are any of the above lies?

I think you are disappointed and angry at being duped by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Seeing the internal rot in the DNC is disheartening.