CERN was now built in the fifties?

So...I have always let people have it when it comes to anyone actually believing in the Mandela effect. See, I wrote a paper back in 2003 I believe it was and it predicted the Mandela effect type things coming to pass and it explained what the actual reason behind people remembering things differently simply and it was an airtight thing.

Fast forward to today and while I still think the Mandela effect is easily explained away, what I don't know is if this is a website from an alternate reality (0.0001% likelihood,I'm not that gullible people) or if CERN employees are just toying with everyone or if I just woke up in a reality this is all normal in and MY reality is the crazy side loll

YouTube now shows LHC being built in the 50s finished in i think 52...
And no I'm not talking its predecessor.

There is video yet possibly faked of he digging in black and white, the payphone looks like a phone I've never seen, and 1993 had YouTube and realplayer music vids? I didn't even have text based prodigy till 95 lol

Check it out

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a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

CERN is an organisation (European Organization for Nuclear Research) which name comes from the French Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire. It was first established in 1954.
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The LHC (The Large Hadrom Collider) was built between 1998 and 2008.
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It seems your YouTube video is getting things mixed up.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Another case for Mandela...ripped

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

YouTube eh?

Possibly not the most accurate of information repository.

CERN was established in 1954 but the LHC was not constructed until the late 90s if memory serves.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

YouTube eh?

Possibly not the most accurate of information repository.

CERN was established in 1954 but the LHC was not constructed until the late 90s if memory serves.

So are the videos of digging the collider out in the 50s fake?

The narration of the video is really ignorant, basically taking the Micky out of a bunch of old pages claiming that everything looks funny LOL LOL LOL Great joke look at the old car from the 80s!

Then to say that none of the stuff existed before the LHC turned on, simply because they themselves couldn't find it on the internet. Its the most dumb statement I'v ever heard. Making throw away comments that have little to no truth or meaning to them.
The comment about a permanently on shift boyfriend, is really dumb and ignorant, it actually tells the truth of what it is like to be a scientist. That the passion for the work often drives people to work really weird and long hours, people who dedicated their lives to science. - To then be mocked by someone who's words make it sound like they dedicated their life to doing nothing but conspiracies and ignorance.
"Here are some business men looking at the equipment" Yeah change business men with Scientists. It seems like the author of the video simple subscribes to the notion that shadowy figures run cern, rather than you know.. scientists.

Ever think that the archive footage simply wasn't digitized?

The footage shows several experiments being conducted at CERN, not all of them are in the big beam-lines, some of them are in smaller ones, some of them are not in beams at all. Most of the footage of older systems Not the LHC at all... a quick look at the history of the facility and even wikipedia will give you a list of instuments

Decommissioned accelerators
-The original linear accelerator (LINAC 1).
-The 600 MeV Synchrocyclotron (SC) which started operation in 1957 and was shut down in 1991.
-The Intersecting Storage Rings (ISR), an early collider built from 1966 to 1971 and operated until 1984.
-The Large Electron–Positron Collider (LEP), which operated from 1989 to 2000 and was the largest machine of its kind, housed in a 27 km-long circular tunnel which now houses the Large Hadron Collider.
-The Low Energy Antiproton Ring (LEAR), commissioned in 1982, which assembled the first pieces of true antimatter, in 1995, consisting of nine atoms of antihydrogen. It was closed in 1996, and superseded by the Antiproton Decelerator.


You might ask "Oh look that end cap of the experiment in the video looks really like CMS... yeah guess why? Because detectors built around colliders do have very similar structures and the basic barrel design hasn't fundamentally changed much in 50 years. They are not the same system at all.

*Sigh* its people like this who make me think we failed as a species

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

YouTube eh?

Possibly not the most accurate of information repository.

CERN was established in 1954 but the LHC was not constructed until the late 90s if memory serves.

So are the videos of digging the collider out in the 50s fake?

It looks to be one of the earlier accelerators.

Remember, the LHC wasn't the first. Check here to see earlier ones.

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

As i said the Collider was constructed in the 90s.

Tech was not sufficient back in the 1950s, least not on the scale, or power of the LHC.

Another 50 years and no one will know how an internal combustion engine works, or how to use a writing pen...

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

YouTube eh?

Possibly not the most accurate of information repository.

CERN was established in 1954 but the LHC was not constructed until the late 90s if memory serves.

So are the videos of digging the collider out in the 50s fake?

Not necessarily fake, could be just plain wrong.

(You know the Large Hadron Collider was not the first collider built, right?)

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

This is more for those that deny this can and does happen so not at the thread author but for all those loving skeptic's out there, we do need you because you do often bring rationality but NOT always.

Let's just take the subject aside for a moment.
How could cern alter reality.



Here is one possible explanation.


Cern was a fearful apparatus to a lot of people because they feared micro black hole's forming but did not realize that even if they managed to create a micro singularity it would vanish almost AS instantly AS it was created, this vanishing would occur through the process known as quantum evaporation, a black hole has to be massive to last for a notable period of time so even if they had the structural damage above a few local sub atomic particles if indeed there was any at all would have been extremely small and probably only temporary.


But let's expand a moment, How can a black hole alter reality, well it can not but it can potentially merge parallel reality's, a black hole you see may have this little ability that is the opposite of the every outcome is real view of parallel universe reality's and quantum realty divergeance, how does this outcome negate this.

Let's look at a black hole AS IT FORM's, forget the core and the possibility that our own time space continuum was sucked into being by a black hole itself and let's look at the OUTER event horizon.


Now the event horizon of a black hole is an interesting place, this is the region were time and space meet the black hole (I am not talking about a hawking brown hole those are only quasi black holes and indeed BOTH may actually exist in nature).

At this point of interstice were time and space hit the singularity there is a point were reality stop's, put another way imagine a huge black hole FORMING (a pre-existing black hole probably has no longer any implications only at the exact instant it forms will this process take place) in two parallel reality's, it is the same black hole in the original reality were they both diverged from but now these two black holes form at the same place, the same exact instant and the event horizon form's at the same time in the same place, that region of space were reality ceased and becomes null form's in both at the same place, there is no difference there (now to understand this think of brain theory - membrane universe theory - and how gravity may come from a separate brain in super space because that will explain how this may cause this effect), so here in this place were reality has been nullified both of these reality's (both is subjective there may be trillions of reality's there number is of no consequence) are drawn BACK together by the super gravity of the black hole and so they become one reality again, now at this exact moment in time also the new black hole send's out a gravity shock wave across the universe which may actually facilitate this zipping back together of these reality's.

The effect roger was walking down the street in his blue shirt with his paper in his right hand, suddenly he notices that he has his red shirt on or his paper is in his left hand but just accept's it, this may actually be happening all the time.

The danger is Cern may be playing with thing's they should not tamper until they know the ramification's better but there are and will always be two equally important branches of science, theoretical and practical, Cern is practical exploration through experimentation but if they have an inkling of what they are potentially doing than that make's them criminally negligent because they are toying with forces that can warp our reality - IF they have ever created any quantum singularity's, because even a tiny singularity that does not exist for more than a pico second can still have this effect though perhaps with less parallel reality's and a smaller reality impact, it is however still unethical to go ahead and # in everyone else back garden just to get a little fertilizer for your own.

So go ahead and laugh at the Mandela effect, I do not call it that but I assure you it is most definitely real.

My reality the bible was different on several point's, there are part's of my bible missing from your's, Tefal and Tetra pack licensed a simple invention, only a shaped lip from an English back garden shed inventor called the drip-less spout in the 1980's, water viscosity was slightly higher (maybe a higher electromagnetic nature to my reality) oh and the sky WAS blue with the sun having a yellowish tinge, this reality the sun is not yellow or gold and the sky is definitely not blue - but like I say multiple reality's so maybe the version of you in my reality - if you existed there did not get merged with the version of you from here, hence for you reality has never changed.

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: TerryDon79

Another case for Mandela...ripped

In this case yes but in general NOT.

originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

YouTube eh?

Possibly not the most accurate of information repository.

CERN was established in 1954 but the LHC was not constructed until the late 90s if memory serves.

So are the videos of digging the collider out in the 50s fake?

Not necessarily fake, could be just plain wrong.

(You know the Large Hadron Collider was not the first collider built, right?)

Everyone knows that the "Large Hadron Collider" came after first the 'Small' and then 'Medium'.. We won't have to fret until it gets to "Extra Grande Hadron Collider"

The large hadron collided was built between 1998 and 2008.
The first accelerators prototypes were built in the early sixties.

So guess this means youtube just isnt the place to get educated about stuff like this. But it's great for videos on how to fillet a fish or to learn a new makeup technique.
I've done both .

a reply to: TerryDon79

Ah see that makes sense.
I have an accelerator not ten miles from my house here in south eastern Virginia. pilotonline.com...

Fermi lab in Chicago was the largest for a very long time.

I have a particle accelerator in my back room...30" CRT TV.

a reply to: andy06shake

Remember the threads on here about how it was going to create a black hole and suck us all in?
What fun.

a reply to: Sillyolme

I do indeed, it was great doom porn.

Strangelets and all that jazz, but the quantum mechanical black holes that the LHC could theoretically produce could hardly sustain themselves down to Planck mass.

a reply to: LABTECH767

LABTECH767,

Stop it. Just stop it.

In your first paragraph, below your assertion that you are going to offer an alternative explanation, you failed to make a differentiation between CERN, and the LHC.

CERN, that is the location where scientists of many stripes and fields of research come together to make advancements in our understanding of the universe, was NEVER considered a threat by anyone. The LHC, which is a specific piece of apparatus, constructed only relatively recently, and only even more recently than that actually activated however, WAS the cause of some great concern amongst the least educated individuals in society. No one whose opinion actually matters, or has any importance whatsoever, was in the least bit worried about it.

I have no beef with you personally, and I want you to understand that this is not me in knives out mode, but if you want to offer an alternative explanation of this confusion, you MUST start by having a perfect grasp of, and ability to cleanly and clearly communicate, the difference between CERN, and the LHC. They are not the same thing in the least. One is an organisation, the other is a piece of equipment, the largest scientific apparatus ever constructed.

These differences are NOT semantics, nor is it pedantry to highlight them. They are CRUCIAL, because failure to understand them is what lead to the ACTUAL explanation of what went wrong, both in the videos in question, and in the understanding the OP has of what is going on in the world.

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

Whilst this isn't an attack on the OP but the one thing that has started to turn me away from reading threads is people using or over using the words "Mandela effect" it's been used so much on ATS that's it has lost all meaning. I mean it is literally up at least once a day and in the top selection almost constantly and it really annoys me.

(Off topic I know but thought I'd share my hatred for those two horrible words)