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Flat earth theory?

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posted on Feb, 16 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: turbonium1




I've done my own work,

Cool. Then you can explain how, on a flat Earth, the elevation of Polaris can correspond to the latitude of the observer.

Please, do so.
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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 02:24 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1




I've done my own work,

Cool. Then you can explain how, on a flat Earth, the elevation of Polaris can correspond to the latitude of the observer.

Please, do so.


You can't explain how a single star could remain at the exact North point of Earth, for thousands of years, but you want me to explain how it's elevation could correspond to one's position on a flat Earth?

Different latitudes show Polaris from different perspectives, when viewed from our flat Earth. Do you expect Polaris to be seen the same way, same elevation, on a flat Earth? If you do, explain why you believe it. And why it works only on a spherical Earth, too.


The surface area of Earth is massive - you believe we should see Polaris the same way, everywhere on a flat Earth? Not a chance.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 02:33 AM
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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 03:07 AM
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Another superb effort, from the Earth-baller side!



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 03:44 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
Another superb effort, from the Earth-baller side!


There really is no other way to respond to you. This is not a serious thread. This is a joke.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 03:56 AM
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It certainly is a joke, but I'm willing to humor those who believe Earth is a ball speeding through space, with the same stars all in tow!!
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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 04:21 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
It certainly is a joke, but I'm willing to humor those who believe Earth is a ball speeding through space, with the same stars all in tow!!


Oh dear. Ridiculous statements like that are not really going to extend this silly thread for much longer. You need to get some fresh material.



posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 04:23 PM
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You can't explain how a single star could remain at the exact North point of Earth, for thousands of years,
Actually, it's not positioned at exactly true north (about 1º off) but it does change its apparent position because the Earth slowly wobbles as it rotates. Over 13,000 years or so Vega will slowly take its place.




The surface area of Earth is massive - you believe we should see Polaris the same way, everywhere on a flat Earth? Not a chance.

Ok.
Please explain how, on a flat Earth, the elevation of Polaris above the horizon can correspond to the latitude of the observer. A simple sketch might help.
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posted on Feb, 17 2019 @ 10:43 PM
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You can't explain how a single star could remain at the exact North point of Earth, for thousands of years, but you want me to explain how it's elevation could correspond to one's position on a flat Earth?


To be fair, there is parallax of the north star, you can see it in any north pole time lapse photo of a year period. There is proof of flat earth, but it's not that. That's a common misunderstanding. The north star is not fixed.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 01:16 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
Actually, it's not positioned at exactly true north (about 1º off) but it does change its apparent position because the Earth slowly wobbles as it rotates. Over 13,000 years or so Vega will slowly take its place.


The first known reported sighting of Polaris was nearly 2000 years ago. It hasn't changed its position in the least, to this very day. This indicates that Polaris has NEVER changed its position, and never will.

You can believe that in 13,000 years, Polaris will move, and another star - Vega - will "take its place", if you want to, but I prefer the actual evidence, rather than hope for something, just because it has to fit to another argument.



originally posted by: Phage
Please explain how, on a flat Earth, the elevation of Polaris above the horizon can correspond to the latitude of the observer. A simple sketch might help.


I've already explained this, but it seems you can't understand the concept yet.

This explains perspective, from someone on a flat surface, beneath a dome (hey, that sounds very familiar!)...

This system of perspective, using five points, creates a circle on a piece of paper or canvas. You now can illustrate 180 degrees of visual space around you. It captures everything from North to South and from Nadir to Zenith. Think of yourself inside a really exciting visual environment like St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. You bring a transparent hemisphere with you. When you find a spot in the Basilica where any direction you look is visually exciting, you put the hemisphere in front of your face and copy what you see on the inside of it. The hemisphere shows five vanishing points, north, on the left, east in the middle and south on the right. There is also a point above your head and another below your chin. One hundred and eighty degrees of the total environment can be drawn in this hemisphere. Think of how this would look on the flat surface. You would have to rely on five point grid system on the flat page to do the same thing, but it really will work

termespheres.com...

So imagine being on a flat surface, covered by a massive dome. The dome has a single light, at the very center of it.

You are directly below the center of the dome. The light is directly above you, at the highest point of the dome.

Then you walk two miles out from the center (it's a very large dome, remember). Now, the light is not above you anymore. It is two miles away from your position. The light appears lower than it appeared at first, when directly above you.

Then, you walk another 6 miles out, or 8 miles from the center point. The light appears even lower than before.

So, the further you walk away from the center of the dome, the light appears to be lower, and lower, until finally, the light cannot be seen anymore.


The height, or 'elevation above the floor', corresponds to your 'latitude', or position, below the light.


Polaris is also a light, at the center of a dome. You are on a flat surface, looking at Polaris from different positions, or latitudes, on Earth. That is why the elevation corresponds to latitude, when you see Polaris.


Do you understand, now? It's a pretty simple concept.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 04:46 AM
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Just wondering...

what is said dome made of?




posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 05:20 AM
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A dome. Just when I thought this thread could not get any sillier.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

This thread always provides a few laughs on a slow Monday morning.....nothing funnier than a dome.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 06:29 AM
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demonstrating the utter idiocy of the premise :

" polaris = a light in teh dome "

pressumed axioms [ for this premise ]

1 - polaris = a light in a " dome "

2 - polaris = directly above the " true north pole [ declination = 90 degrees ]

3 - on the 45th parallel - the delination of polaris = 45 degrees

4 - the shortest distance from the 45th paralel > the true north pole = 5000km

5 - the shortest distance from the equator > the true north pole = 10000km

6 - on the equator- the delination of polaris = 0 degrees

7 - the earth = flat

ok

A from 2 , 3 & 4 - polaris = 5000km above the true north pole [ basic geometry ]

B - if A , then from 5 , the declination of polaris from equator is 26.5 degrees [ basic geometry ]

C - B = false - ergo 7 = false from 6

thus the earth is not flat . game over



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 06:38 AM
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Just going to play for a second, if its a dome , then how come it takes light from polaris so long to reach the observer on earth , if it was a dome with a light fixture, then it shouldn't take as long for the light to reach us , surely ?

Then surely all of physics is wrong, including the physics FE earthers use to calculate the flat earth stuff



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 07:07 AM
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including the physics FE earthers use to calculate the flat earth stuff


They use physics?



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Have you seen the FE Youtube videos of rockets and planes "hitting the dome"? Very funny.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

hahah yeh wellyeh probably but badly ?



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 07:21 AM
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Just going to play for a second, if its a dome , then how come it takes light from polaris so long to reach the observer on earth


because they are using the new energy saving globes and not the old globes with the tungsten filament.

when you switch the light on its dim and as it warms up , a few minutes later it gets bright.



posted on Feb, 18 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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But who is changing the bulbs, and how?




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