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Flat earth theory?

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posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 06:47 PM
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I have to ask..It's the year 2019 and we honestly have people that still believe the Earth is flat?

Do those same people think that fire is a magical thing?



posted on Jan, 27 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Some think gravity is, so why not fire??



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 05:44 AM
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a reply to: opethPA

I don't think he believes any of it, it's just extreme trolling. Best to ignore him.



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 09:14 AM
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People around the world are now calling for a Reality tv show where they goto find the ice wall !

Which I have suggested all along , fund your own live stream expedition and find the wall !

that's how humans found out about the world around us we explored it !



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

But, according to Flat Earthers you can't get there because Antarctica has a no fly zone and you are forbidden from going there and if you do TPTB have armed guards who will shoot you. Apparently.




posted on Feb, 1 2019 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1

Interesting that you mention Polaris.

Can you explain how, on a flat world, its elevation above the horizon happens to correspond to the latitude of the observer?


When you can't explain why Polaris hasn't changed its position - directly above Earth's north 'pole' - over thousands of years, despite Earth supposedly spinning on its own 'axis' at 1000 mph, despite Earth also revolving around the Sun at 66,600 mph, and despite the Sun itself supposedly screaming through space at 450,000 mph!!....

You ignore logic, and ask how Polaris could possibly be seen on a flat Earth, at elevations above the horizon, which correspond to the latitude of the observer!!!

This is the same argument you claimed 'proved' the Earth was round, because ships 'vanished over the Earth's curvature', which is a complete lie, as the ships don't 'vanish' at all. From the eye, the ships seem to 'vanish', but they are still there, and can be seen through magnification. This illusion sold the round Earth bull to the people, and still does.

The horizon, if you've ever been in a plane, does not curve. It is a straight, flat, horizontal line. How does THAT work on a round Earth? Well, it's supposedly because you aren't high enough above the Earth to see the curvature yet. So when you go higher, you see the 'curvature'....right? Wrong. The horizon NEVER curves, no matter HOW high you are above Earth. In fact, the higher you go, the horizon only RISES with your point of view, and is always perfectly straight, and horizontal...


How does THAT work on a round Earth? It doesn't.

If you were rising above a sphere, the horizon would NOT rise with you, and would not look horizontal throughout. There would be a DROP in the 'horizon', because you are steadily rising above a sphere. Basic physics doesn't change.

Any of this can be demonstrated, of course. The vanishing point, the point of view, etc. are all illusions, provable in any number of ways. Same as Polaris is provable.


We see the same stars, in the same positions above Earth, which rotate above Earth, which are seen from different viewpoints on the Earth, and haven't changed positions - at all - in thousands of years.

You can't even prove the curvature of Earth, let alone explain why every star - including Polaris - has never changed position.



posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

Since the dawn of man it has been shown the higher you are the further you can see. This is why watch towers were created how can this be explained on a flat earth? On a flat earth height would not increase the distance one can see at all. On a flat earth the distance to horizon would never change .
edit on 2/2/19 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 2 2019 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: turbonium1

Since the dawn of man it has been shown the higher you are the further you can see. This is why watch towers were created how can this be explained on a flat earth? On a flat earth height would not increase the distance one can see at all. On a flat earth the distance to horizon would never change .


The horizon proves Earth's surface is flat, not curved....

First proof - the horizon is always straight, and level, no matter how high above Earth, no matter how much of the horizon is visible at any point. If the Earth was curved, the horizon would not be totally level, and straight, across the entire panorama. The excuse that we are 'not high enough' to see curvature doesn't make sense.

Second proof - the horizon appears to 'rise' with greater altitude, and remains perfectly straight across, throughout. If the Earth was curved, the horizon would 'sink' with greater altitude.

If you were above a giant ball, so massive, you didn't know it was a ball. You couldn't tell it was even curved, on the surface. You had a rope attached to you, however, which pulled you straight up from the giant ball, higher and higher..

As you rose ever higher above the giant ball, the horizon would seem to 'vanish' away, like your 'ship' was supposedly 'vanishing' over the Earth's 'curvature'...

That's basic physics, isn't it?

Since it is a fact that the horizon does NOT 'vanish' away, with greater altitude, then it is also a fact the Earth cannot be a sphere, as you claim.







You suggest the distance to the horizon would never change with more height, which makes no sense at all. If you go higher and higher above ANY surface, the farther away you see of



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: sapien82

But, according to Flat Earthers you can't get there because Antarctica has a no fly zone and you are forbidden from going there and if you do TPTB have armed guards who will shoot you. Apparently.



Antarctica is just a massive continent on the Earth, that nobody knew existed, for several thousand years, because ancient ships were not capable of such travels yet.. All their maps would seem to prove they had explored all the Earth, but they left out Antarctica, which means they were 'guessing' it all, from that point.

They finally discovered it, in the early 20th century, which was very amazing, of course, because we already knew the Earth was round, centuries earlier, after sailing around the world, over and over again.

Anyway, it was an amazing discovery of a massive continent, below Australia and South America, which was called 'Antarctica'. Nobody knew it even was there, for thousands of years, which makes sense, if you assume they mapped every other continent on Earth, accurately, except for the massive continent on Earth, we finally saw was there, which we immediately knew was an undiscovered continent on Earth, about the size of America, even though nobody had ever seen it before then, or had barely explored a tiny fraction of it, which means nobody could have known the size of it, obviously....

Yet they claimed to know Antarctica was about the same size as America, which was found to be correct, when they later had explored all of the continent, and had mapped it all.

Wouldn't it be something if they could find a massive continent, which existed on the Earth, but nobody ever knew to exist, for thousands of years, until the 1930's, when it is finally discovered.

Who says we didn't really discover a continent on Earth, which nobody knew was there, as a massive land mass on Earth, which is about the same size of America, before anyone could have even KNOWN the size of it yet?

If you can believe they found a continent on Earth, which nobody knew existed for thousands of years, and you can also believe they know what size the continent is, which is a lie, of course, since nobody could know the size of it, since they said it was largely unknown, unexplored, as yet. So when they claimed it was the size of America, it was an absolute lie.

You seem to think that's not important, right?

And it's nice that all the most powerful nations of the world, soon after the discovery of a continent on Earth, which they already knew was about the size of America, was off limits to everyone, because it was so precious, unspoiled.

You obviously believe in anything they say, at this point. They can discover a massive continent, immediately know the actual size of it, universally agree that people can't explore it, fly over it, or get near most of it, because they are protecting it!

If you think it's not off-limits, or only some of it is, wouldn't we have stacks of footage, etc. by now? Wouldn't we have had many ships, circumnavigating it, too?

Do you seriously believe airplanes would not fly over it, on commercial flights?

If you look at the Earth 'globe', you will notice that flying directly over the so-called 'south pole', would save a lot of flight time, and tons of fuel, for many commercial flights. That alone is a valid reason for planes flying over Antarctica, right?

There is no reason that we would not be allowed to fully explore Antarctica, is there?

They didn't really lie about the size of Antarctica, right?



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

How do you explain the southern hemisphere routes?

Think of the hundreds of thousands of people that have made that flight. Why haven't any of the prominent flat earthers taken such a flight? All they claim is that the flights don't actually exist or that they take another route. Surely people like yourself could rumble these flights in a heartbeat? I bet even if someone offered to pay for such a flight you would refuse?

Have a chat with this Boeing 747 pilot who actually flies some of these southern hemisphere routes. If the earth was flat then he couldn't physically fly the distance on a full load of fuel.

Metabunk Link A Flight over the Antarctic Sea Ice From Chile to Australia (QF28)

Flat Earth Theory Debunked by Short Flights (QF27 & QF28) From Australia to South America

Qantas pilot's You Tube Link

The question is why have none of these Flat Earthers taken such a flight, or publically admitted to it? It would be interesting to see a whole plane load of these very vocal flat earthers take such a flight.



posted on Feb, 3 2019 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
It's simple logic..


We have seen the exact same stars, at the exact same position in the skies, without exception, since day one, and ever since then.



You are simple and your logic is flawed were you there on day one
NO

Did someone on day one measure to a fraction of a degree the positions of stars in the constellations relative to each other and the Earth. NO

if I placed a small object say 3 miles away and moved that 1/1000th of a millimetre a day relative to your viewing location after a year would you be able to tell if it moved. NO

You just can't comprehend distances angles velocity or forces that's you problem.

Serious question where were you educated



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1





They finally discovered it, in the early 20th century, which was very amazing, of course, because we already knew the Earth was round, centuries earlier, after sailing around the world, over and over again.



From Wiki:



Antarctica is noted as the last region on Earth in recorded history to be discovered, unseen until 1820 when the Russian expedition of Fabian Gottlieb von Bellingshausen and Mikhail Lazarev on Vostok and Mirny sighted the Fimbul ice shelf. The continent, however, remained largely neglected for the rest of the 19th century because of its hostile environment, lack of easily accessible resources, and isolation. In 1895, the first confirmed landing was conducted by a team of Norwegians.


You are talking utter tosh. Do you just make up your "facts" or what?



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 04:55 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

More utter tosh.



You obviously believe in anything they say, at this point. They can discover a massive continent, immediately know the actual size of it, universally agree that people can't explore it, fly over it, or get near most of it, because they are protecting it! If you think it's not off-limits, or only some of it is, wouldn't we have stacks of footage, etc. by now? Wouldn't we have had many ships, circumnavigating it, too?


Here is Tripadvisor listing things you can do in Antarctica:

Tripadvisor: 10 Best Things to do in Antarctic

Off limits? Can't explore it? No. Not at all.



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1



posted on Feb, 4 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1




Do you seriously believe airplanes would not fly over it, on commercial flights?


But they do. Lots and lots of them. Look - here's one that Quantas do:

Quantas Chartered Flights to Antarctica

Care to comment?



posted on Feb, 8 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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None of these flights pass directly over Antarctica, that's the problem.

Show me proof that flights fly over the South Pole, if I'm wrong.



posted on Feb, 8 2019 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: turbonium1

More utter tosh.



You obviously believe in anything they say, at this point. They can discover a massive continent, immediately know the actual size of it, universally agree that people can't explore it, fly over it, or get near most of it, because they are protecting it! If you think it's not off-limits, or only some of it is, wouldn't we have stacks of footage, etc. by now? Wouldn't we have had many ships, circumnavigating it, too?


Here is Tripadvisor listing things you can do in Antarctica:

Tripadvisor: 10 Best Things to do in Antarctic

Off limits? Can't explore it? No. Not at all.


That's like saying we can explore North America, but only within Florida. The rest is off limits!!

Why would they have ANY areas which are off limits, to begin with?

Inhabitable, and virtually no food sources, for the most part.

Compared to any other place on Earth, it's complete #e.

Why is it treated like the Garden of Eden, to them?

I'm sure they are all simply 'protecting' it, right??



posted on Feb, 8 2019 @ 06:13 PM
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I asked you how they would know the size of Antarctica, before they had explored it all....


Any idea?



posted on Feb, 8 2019 @ 06:31 PM
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The ancient maps were accurate, so why can't anyone address this?



posted on Feb, 8 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: turbonium1

Even if they were, they never found an ice wall or dome obviously...





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