Flat earth theory?

originally posted by: turbonium1


A light proves nothing, whatsoever.

So what is causing the "light"? How are the "Masters of Deception" all over the Earth deceiving people? Come on what is your theory? Something in the water, mass hypnotism. How can the likes of NASA pull it off consistently and yet the flat earthers and no satellite believers haven't caught them out? Come on it should be easy for them!

originally posted by: turbonium1
Why don't you actually address the question I've raised here?

Polaris? Did you ever address that one?

Man: "Oh look Turbo - a dead bird".
Turbonium: (Looking up and scanning the sky) "Where"?

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

NO.. see a rocket can be seen from earth...

Just not from its launching point into space.... because "orbit" involves going around something...

If you claim you can see the ISS "going around" Earth, then why can't we see a rocket "going around" Earth after it launches?

The rocket is much closer to Earth than your ISS supposedly is, right?

You have no excuses for this, and you know it.

But you simply can't admit the truth, as usual.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: turbonium1

i has a better idea - why dont you explain one of your pivotal fantasies coherently .

namely your claim that [ to paraphrase ] " gravity does not affect birds . "

you keep repeating this - but never explain it

now is the time

now i realise your fantasies include to put it most politley - a skepticism of gravity

so - lets here - why your " system " that affects everything except bids - does not affect birds

I've explained it repeatedly.

If gravity exists, and 'pulls' all objects down to Earth, and 'holds' them to Earth, then an opposing force must face RESISTANCE from that same force, as actual forces would show such resistance to opposing forces, like a magnet, for example.

So when an opposing force, like a bird, faces no RESISTANCE from a force 'pulling' down all objects to Earth, that proves there is no force at all, 'pulling' down objects to Earth. Birds fly freely above Earth, without any resistance against their flights.


When a metallic object is held by a magnet, and you pull the metallic object away from the magnet, what happens?

You feel the magnetic force RESIST your pull on the metallic object, right?

The 'experts' try to excuse 'gravity' as a force that doesn't act like any other actual force acts, because they know it does not make any sense. There is no force that can refute all physical laws, there is no 'special exception' to the laws of physics. None.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: turbonium1

this is the kind of idiocy flat earth cultists tie them selves into

you have realms of mental gymnastics to " explain " why the sun and moon disapear from view

but turn back and demand that a rocket should remain visible to a ground observer

ftreaking hilarious

in the real world - the vanguard was prepositioned in the atlantic - to provide track // telemepty beyond the range of KSC

detailed hear

still waiting your explaination of birds

No, I said rockets should be visible on Earth, along the flight paths. Don't try and twist my words, it won't work.

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: turbonium1


A light proves nothing, whatsoever.

So what is causing the "light"? How are the "Masters of Deception" all over the Earth deceiving people? Come on what is your theory? Something in the water, mass hypnotism. How can the likes of NASA pull it off consistently and yet the flat earthers and no satellite believers haven't caught them out? Come on it should be easy for them!

They haven't PROVEN anything is in space, that's the problem. It's not the other way around.

They say 'this rocket flew out of sight, over the ocean, and it went into Earth orbit afterwards'.

What is that supposed to prove, then? Nothing but an unfounded, unproven claim, and nothing more.

Nobody sees the rocket actually go into orbit, or even fly out of sight, along the way to orbit. Never.

They can't prove it, even though it's provable, if it really happens, of course.


After a rocket launches from Earth, why would the flight path not be seen from Earth, until it reaches a point higher than can be seen from Earth? Not from the launch pad, but over the whole flight path, as it goes 'around the Earth'?

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

NO.. see a rocket can be seen from earth...

Just not from its launching point into space.... because "orbit" involves going around something...

If you claim you can see the ISS "going around" Earth, then why can't we see a rocket "going around" Earth after it launches?

The rocket is much closer to Earth than your ISS supposedly is, right?

You have no excuses for this, and you know it.

But you simply can't admit the truth, as usual.

And as usual you don't have a clue what you're talking about

Im guessing you think rockets burn forever?

Or perhaps you think we just blasted the entire ISS up into space in one piece? LMAO!!

I showed you an amature video of the ISS transiting the moon... You said CGI... I showed you rockets going into orbit... you didn't even know what you were watching...

get a grip

You showed me a light moving across the night sky, that's all.

I never said it was CGI, you did.

And you showed me a rocket passing by clouds in the blue sky, nothing like you said of being in 'orbit'.

a reply to: turbonium1

no... the video was the shadow of the ISS crossing the moon...

and again, YOU don't have a clue what you're looking at... I along with other members have posted videos of rockets going into orbit... Unfortunately you seem to believe orbit means floating in space

that isn't possible... or is it what orbit means

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

no... the video was the shadow of the ISS crossing the moon...

and again, YOU don't have a clue what you're looking at... I along with other members have posted videos of rockets going into orbit... Unfortunately you seem to believe orbit means floating in space

that isn't possible... or is it what orbit means

I was referring to the person here who claimed to see the ISS above him, with some type of 'light', that was moving across the dark night skies, which surely proved to him it was the ISS, nothing else was possible, because NASA told us about how their ISS was going to be moving above this area, at this one, specific time, and he saw a light move above him in the dark of night, right when NASA told us the ISS would appear above us, so it must be the ISS flying in Earth's 'orbit'!!


So when you see a light move across the night skies, at the specific time NASA said the ISS would be seen above you, flying around Earth 'orbit'.....this must be proof of the ISS, right?

If anyone claims this 'light' is NOT the actual ISS, in orbit, they must prove it is NOT the ISS!!??

I'd like to know what proves the light IS what you claim it to be, because NASA's claim isn't proof of s&^*.


Do you really believe they cannot make a light move across the dark skies, unless it's the ISS in Earth orbit?

They cannot build any craft with lights, that moves across the skies, other than orbiting craft, like the ISS?

Do you really believe in such nonsense?

This light proves nothing, except that you obviously need a reality check.


You're the one claiming this light is the ISS, without any proof to support the claim. Nobody has to prove it is NOT the ISS, since you haven't ever proved it IS the ISS, in any way!!


It's worse, when we have never even seen a rocket - from Earth - actually going up towards orbit, to begin with!!


They would know where the rocket flies after launch, right?

They claim a rocket going up, into Earth orbit, has to fly within Earth's atmosphere, for awhile, before it finally reaches Earth orbit, right?


Rockets would be seen - on Earth - flying upward into orbit, all the time, if it was true....


Where did the Saturn V fly after it went over the ocean? Nobody knows. They never said where it went after that, for some strange reason!!

If it was flying around Earth, before it went into orbit, then it had to fly over land, after it crossed the ocean, right?

Nobody knew where it was supposed to fly above us, as they never mentioned it, for some reason!


Faking a rocket going to orbit is the whole reason they never mentioned it.


How would a rocket NOT be seen from Earth, going upward to orbit, if it really happened??


If they really sent rockets up into orbit, they'd have told us where it can be seen, from Earth, after it was launched, beyond a doubt.

You believe a rocket goes above Earth, below orbit, after it launches, and that they know its flight path, after it launches, as well. Do you really believe they don't tell us where it can be seen, on Earth, because it's completely ridiculous. Nobody would send a rocket into orbit, know its path, after launch, within our blue skies above, over land, but never mention where it goes, where to see it on Earth, afterwards.

You cannot explain why thousands of rockets have launched from Earth, into 'orbit', while every one of these rockets have exact flight paths which would be visible from Earth, obviously.

Airplanes fly higher altitudes than rockets even fly, when they go out of sight, over the ocean, and they never mention where they can be seen afterwards, and nobody HAS seen them afterwards, either! But who cares, we should all believe they fly into orbit, anyhoo!


If you think that thousands of rockets help your claim, it makes it worse. Not one rocket, from thousands, has ever been seen on Earth going up, towards orbit....ever. That's absolute nonsense.

a reply to: turbonium1

once again the only nonsense here is coming from you...

DO a bit of research... just a little bit...

Theres plenty of videos (old and new) of rockets going into orbit... the "lights" are satellites, they are tracked... every one of them... Theres a bunch of apps that can help you track them as well so you can see when one passes over your head...

IF you're just to damn lazy to figure these things out without going to your holy grail of websites the bloody flat earth morons to learn things... well you're lost dude...

Every single argument you have is bullsh!t… straight up... no other words for it, just garbage with no basis of reality...

And for the 50th time.... Orbit isn't floating above the launch site... get that through your head...

Rockets are launched from specific places, and eventually they will end up over an ocean... that's how it works... they don't splash down most times... many many manned rockets have launched into orbit over the years, and docked with the ISS... so have ships... and many countries have lost people in space travel

DEAL with it... OR just live in your little uneducated bubble.... er dome

Looking in the mirror we fail to see the light.

The light of satellites in orbit.

We are morons because we are of the light and don't want to see the system created simply because this necessary knowledge leads to nothing, this light of education we all must be dragged into to make us responsible for not doing anything about it ruining the world and our children.

Uneducated bubble, well well, the educated can't stand the uneducated because we are free from their slave knowledge and they don't want to see the light.

Why would you want the power of the knowledge that one day will destroy the children? Are you really that evil!

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Theres nothing evil about pointing out reality

People are free to see the world as they want to see it... but denying ignorance is the idea on this site

And flat earth is nothing but...

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

no... the video was the shadow of the ISS crossing the moon...

and again, YOU don't have a clue what you're looking at... I along with other members have posted videos of rockets going into orbit... Unfortunately you seem to believe orbit means floating in space

that isn't possible... or is it what orbit means

I was referring to the person here who claimed to see the ISS above him, with some type of 'light', that was moving across the dark night skies, which surely proved to him it was the ISS, nothing else was possible, because NASA told us about how their ISS was going to be moving above this area, at this one, specific time, and he saw a light move above him in the dark of night, right when NASA told us the ISS would appear above us, so it must be the ISS flying in Earth's 'orbit'!!


So when you see a light move across the night skies, at the specific time NASA said the ISS would be seen above you, flying around Earth 'orbit'.....this must be proof of the ISS, right?

If anyone claims this 'light' is NOT the actual ISS, in orbit, they must prove it is NOT the ISS!!??

I'd like to know what proves the light IS what you claim it to be, because NASA's claim isn't proof of s&^*.


Do you really believe they cannot make a light move across the dark skies, unless it's the ISS in Earth orbit?

They cannot build any craft with lights, that moves across the skies, other than orbiting craft, like the ISS?

Do you really believe in such nonsense?

This light proves nothing, except that you obviously need a reality check.


You're the one claiming this light is the ISS, without any proof to support the claim. Nobody has to prove it is NOT the ISS, since you haven't ever proved it IS the ISS, in any way!!


It's worse, when we have never even seen a rocket - from Earth - actually going up towards orbit, to begin with!!


They would know where the rocket flies after launch, right?

They claim a rocket going up, into Earth orbit, has to fly within Earth's atmosphere, for awhile, before it finally reaches Earth orbit, right?


Rockets would be seen - on Earth - flying upward into orbit, all the time, if it was true....


Where did the Saturn V fly after it went over the ocean? Nobody knows. They never said where it went after that, for some strange reason!!

If it was flying around Earth, before it went into orbit, then it had to fly over land, after it crossed the ocean, right?

Nobody knew where it was supposed to fly above us, as they never mentioned it, for some reason!


Faking a rocket going to orbit is the whole reason they never mentioned it.


How would a rocket NOT be seen from Earth, going upward to orbit, if it really happened??


If they really sent rockets up into orbit, they'd have told us where it can be seen, from Earth, after it was launched, beyond a doubt.

You believe a rocket goes above Earth, below orbit, after it launches, and that they know its flight path, after it launches, as well. Do you really believe they don't tell us where it can be seen, on Earth, because it's completely ridiculous. Nobody would send a rocket into orbit, know its path, after launch, within our blue skies above, over land, but never mention where it goes, where to see it on Earth, afterwards.

You cannot explain why thousands of rockets have launched from Earth, into 'orbit', while every one of these rockets have exact flight paths which would be visible from Earth, obviously.

Airplanes fly higher altitudes than rockets even fly, when they go out of sight, over the ocean, and they never mention where they can be seen afterwards, and nobody HAS seen them afterwards, either! But who cares, we should all believe they fly into orbit, anyhoo!


If you think that thousands of rockets help your claim, it makes it worse. Not one rocket, from thousands, has ever been seen on Earth going up, towards orbit....ever. That's absolute nonsense.

How about you prove this claim of „never been seen“!

Literally dozens of members tried to explain orbital mechanics to you, why a rocket has to reach 28,000 km/h SIDEWAYS to reach and stay in orbit, yet you claim it can not happen.

That’s a feeling you have, not a proven claim.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
Looking in the mirror we fail to see the light.

The light of satellites in orbit.

We are morons because we are of the light and don't want to see the system created simply because this necessary knowledge leads to nothing, this light of education we all must be dragged into to make us responsible for not doing anything about it ruining the world and our children.

Uneducated bubble, well well, the educated can't stand the uneducated because we are free from their slave knowledge and they don't want to see the light.

Why would you want the power of the knowledge that one day will destroy the children? Are you really that evil!

Uneducated people are not the answer.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

True.

So are the confused.

a reply to: Akragon

Different people are living different realities.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

and they are welcome to it...

What they are not welcome to is to tell people that our world isn't what it is, based on ancient texts that don't even say such things...

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: turbonium1

once again the only nonsense here is coming from you...

DO a bit of research... just a little bit...

Theres plenty of videos (old and new) of rockets going into orbit... the "lights" are satellites, they are tracked... every one of them... Theres a bunch of apps that can help you track them as well so you can see when one passes over your head...

IF you're just to damn lazy to figure these things out without going to your holy grail of websites the bloody flat earth morons to learn things... well you're lost dude...

Every single argument you have is bullsh!t… straight up... no other words for it, just garbage with no basis of reality...

And for the 50th time.... Orbit isn't floating above the launch site... get that through your head...

Rockets are launched from specific places, and eventually they will end up over an ocean... that's how it works... they don't splash down most times... many many manned rockets have launched into orbit over the years, and docked with the ISS... so have ships... and many countries have lost people in space travel

DEAL with it... OR just live in your little uneducated bubble.... er dome

You think a video where a rocket passes by clouds in the blue sky proves it's in 'space', so your latest claim that videos show rockets going into orbit, are equally worthless.


If you had proof to show a rocket really going upward to orbit, you'd have shown it over and over again, by now.

Showing a video of a rocket passing by clouds, in the blue sky, over and over.....only shows how clueless you are, sorry to say.