Removing the statue of Confederate hero Chief Justice Roger B. Taney

There's no question that the left wing in this country is trying to score cheap political points by removing Confederate statues. Scoring cheap political points is why the statues were put up in place in the first place.

I have said many times on ATS that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats and if you think otherwise you are delusional. And I'm sure there are Republican voters would be physically sick if they ever voted for a Democrat in the voting booth. However, aside from all the propaganda programming that "liberals" and "Democrats" are the root cause of everything that is bad in this country, please consider the following.

Republican Governor Larry Hogan issued the following statement on 8/15/2017:

ANNAPOLIS, MD – Governor Larry Hogan today released the following statement regarding the Justice Roger B. Taney statue on the grounds of the Maryland State House:

“As I said at my inauguration, Maryland has always been a state of middle temperament, which is a guiding principle of our administration. While we cannot hide from our history – nor should we – the time has come to make clear the difference between properly acknowledging our past and glorifying the darkest chapters of our history. With that in mind, I believe removing the Justice Roger B. Taney statue from the State House grounds is the right thing to do, and we will ask the State House Trust to take that action immediately.”

Who was Justice Roger B Taney? Here is a brief history lesson:

In Dred Scott v. Sandford, a slave named Dred Scott had appealed to the Supreme Court in hopes of being granted his freedom based on his having been brought by his masters to live in free territories. The Taney Court ruled that persons of African descent could not be, nor were ever intended to be, citizens under the U.S. Constitution, and thus the plaintiff (Scott) was without legal standing to file a suit. The framers of the Constitution, Taney wrote, believed that blacks "had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever profit could be made by it."[3] The court also declared the Missouri Compromise (1820) unconstitutional, thus permitting slavery in all of the country's territories. Taney died during the final months of the American Civil War on the same day that his home state of Maryland abolished slavery.

Now let us think about this for a minute. Justice Taney ruled persons of African descent have no Constitutional rights is his greatest achievement of his life. So putting up a statue of Justice Taney on the State House grounds, when it was done, was pretty much an eff you to black people. I would love to hear some of you right winger in-bred Retardicans explain to me how a statue of someone who wanted to repeal the 13th Amendment is justified or is anything but an eff you to black people. Please explain to me why I am a closed minded left wing authoritarian communist. Thanks in advance.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Damn you nearly had me but again with the buzzwords and namecalling. You just don't get it. Do we really need a thread for every statue that gets demolished?

Deep in liberal country of Seattle, Washington, an 18 foot tall statue of Vlademir Lenin stands tall, while the liberals living beneath it cry out in pain over the Confederate statues that stand on the other side of our country. Insanity.

Meanwhile, true Americans quietly clean their firearms and go back to work.

a reply to: dfnj2015

www.baltimoresun.com...

Under the cover of night, a work crew removed the statue of former Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger B. Taney — author of the infamous Dred Scott decision — from the grounds of the State House, ending the monument’s 145-year prominent perch in Annapolis. At 12:20 a.m. Friday, flatbed trucks with equipment including a large crane pulled onto the street encircling the State House. Workers cordoned off the front lawn of the historic building and placed straps around the statue, the latest Confederate-era figure to be removed from a public square.

It's already been moved. What is it that you would like? Do you want to erase his memory from our history?

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: dfnj2015

Damn you nearly had me but again with the buzzwords and namecalling. You just don't get it. Do we really need a thread for every statue that gets demolished?

I have a different opinion on this that you do which means I "just don't get it".

So do you agree with Republican Governor's decision or not? Show some backbone or shut up.

Pretty good post until the right wing inbred republican crap. You lost credibility right there at the end of an otherwise good post. Good day to you sir.

a reply to: network dude

I don't want anything. I think Republican governors are just as bad as Democrat ones.

a reply to: dfnj2015


Yep, that's some low hanging fruit. But, it's a start. This truly is, to my surprise, a bipartisan issue.

a reply to: Anathros

"Credibility" ? I'm not the Republican governor who made the statement. I'm not running for office.

Well the problem is with the name calling you showed that you have no intent on a dialogue you want people to agree with you to give you some sort of validation to your points.

a reply to: chadderson

Is it on state house grounds? No. You can put up a statue anywhere you want. Just go to the Georga Guidestones monument.

a reply to: dfnj2015

what is the point then? A statue was moved. They moved a bunch of them recently. Apparently art is frightening to some. Did this statue frighten you?

a reply to: Irishhaf


This IS the Mud Pit!

Do you have a problem with the statue being removed, or not?

originally posted by: Irishhaf
Well the problem is with the name calling you showed that you have no intent on a dialogue you want people to agree with you to give you some sort of validation to your points.

Oh my God. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the opposition to you right wingers being called "communists". Don't be so sensitive. You need tougher skin. Stop whining.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: dfnj2015

Damn you nearly had me but again with the buzzwords and namecalling. You just don't get it. Do we really need a thread for every statue that gets demolished?

I have a different opinion on this that you do which means I "just don't get it".

So do you agree with Republican Governor's decision or not? Show some backbone or shut up.

I stated many times that i want to preserve history so no. Feelings should never be used as the ultimate decision making tool. Otherwise people can just label everything offensive and call for there removal. Oh wait they already do.

What's up with the need to shove people into a category? Does it make you feel superior?

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Anathros

"Credibility" ? I'm not the Republican governor who made the statement. I'm not running for office.

You you said you wanted the answer from right wing inbred "republitards". That's just more of the same partisan talk that keeps people from wanting to work on issues together. Respect is a two way street that many of us seem to have forgotten.

I've never called anyone a "closed minded left wing authoritarian communist" and I don't plan to. If I ever feel the urge to utter that, the conversation has long past ended. I'm sorry if you've been mistreated by republicans but we're not all the same just as you aren't.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: dfnj2015

Damn you nearly had me but again with the buzzwords and namecalling. You just don't get it. Do we really need a thread for every statue that gets demolished?

I have a different opinion on this that you do which means I "just don't get it".

So do you agree with Republican Governor's decision or not? Show some backbone or shut up.

I stated many times that i want to preserve history so no. Feelings should never be used as the ultimate decision making tool. Otherwise people can just label everything offensive and call for there removal. Oh wait they already do.

What's up with the need to shove people into a category? Does it make you feel superior?

We should really explore why the statue was put up in the first place. I would never think about putting up such a statue. So my reasoning behind taking it down would be something that many people find so utterly offensive should not be on State House grounds with an institution that is supposed to support ALL people's rights equally. This is not a status of Justin Beaver we are talking about. How do the Republican governor put it, "the time has come to make clear the difference between properly acknowledging our past and glorifying the darkest chapters of our history."

Maybe you disagree with the Republican governor. I think having a statue that glorifies something so immoral is probably not worth having. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree with it. I'm okay with that. I really don't care what you think.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
There's no question that the left wing in this country is trying to score cheap political points by removing Confederate statues. Scoring cheap political points is why the statues were put up in place in the first place.

I have said many times on ATS that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats and if you think otherwise you are delusional. And I'm sure there are Republican voters would be physically sick if they ever voted for a Democrat in the voting booth. However, aside from all the propaganda programming that "liberals" and "Democrats" are the root cause of everything that is bad in this country, please consider the following.

Republican Governor Larry Hogan issued the following statement on 8/15/2017:

ANNAPOLIS, MD – Governor Larry Hogan today released the following statement regarding the Justice Roger B. Taney statue on the grounds of the Maryland State House:

“As I said at my inauguration, Maryland has always been a state of middle temperament, which is a guiding principle of our administration. While we cannot hide from our history – nor should we – the time has come to make clear the difference between properly acknowledging our past and glorifying the darkest chapters of our history. With that in mind, I believe removing the Justice Roger B. Taney statue from the State House grounds is the right thing to do, and we will ask the State House Trust to take that action immediately.”

Who was Justice Roger B Taney? Here is a brief history lesson:

In Dred Scott v. Sandford, a slave named Dred Scott had appealed to the Supreme Court in hopes of being granted his freedom based on his having been brought by his masters to live in free territories. The Taney Court ruled that persons of African descent could not be, nor were ever intended to be, citizens under the U.S. Constitution, and thus the plaintiff (Scott) was without legal standing to file a suit. The framers of the Constitution, Taney wrote, believed that blacks "had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit. He was bought and sold and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever profit could be made by it."[3] The court also declared the Missouri Compromise (1820) unconstitutional, thus permitting slavery in all of the country's territories. Taney died during the final months of the American Civil War on the same day that his home state of Maryland abolished slavery.

Now let us think about this for a minute. Justice Taney ruled persons of African descent have no Constitutional rights is his greatest achievement of his life. So putting up a statue of Justice Taney on the State House grounds, when it was done, was pretty much an eff you to black people. I would love to hear some of you right winger in-bred Retardicans explain to me how a statue of someone who wanted to repeal the 13th Amendment is justified or is anything but an eff you to black people. Please explain to me why I am a closed minded left wing authoritarian communist. Thanks in advance.

If the alt right want the statues left up, here is a thought. On the plaque in front of them, why don't we state the TRUTH. Hey we cant change the past, but why sugar coat it.

a reply to: Anathros

Just look at the other thread about Robert E Lee. All people do is say the opposition party is nothing but "communists". What do you call people on the left?

a reply to: kurthall

I don't want anything. I was just pointing out Republicans are just as bad as Democrats.