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originally posted by: TruthJava
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: kef33890
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: kef33890
Somewhow God Most High will reveal himself to you, because let me tell you.....HE LOVES YOU. You understand? HE LOVES YOU. HE ADORES YOU as his fleshy liviing personification on Earth.
If that's true, why did he give the earth to "The Devil"?
My friend, let me take a jab at this. I understand your skepeticism and pure rationality. BUT.... Suppose there are two choices: freewill, and pre-destination.
Why do you think that these are real choices, or that one is better than the other? Does "free will" actually exist? If so, then the local universe we live in is based in chaos, because, we are continual victims of will. Logically, in the end, mastereing "mind over matter" FREE WILL will turn turn individuals into Gods.
If there is no FREE WILL, then we are merely spiritually imbued boats, traveling down stream at the whim of geography, tide and weather. Then there is no will but "God's" will.
Which is correct?
"mind over matter" and free will are two seperate things.
Free will is the original sin.
The way God intended it was for us to be like him as he is in heaven.
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life.
Perfect and wholesome, which no suffering and only praise to God.
Satan ruined that though, unfortunately. Man's original sin is "I will"..
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
a reply to: windword
To sin essentially means to be in error. "My people are destroyed from the lack of knowledge." -Hosea 4:6
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
No. But to USE your freewill to commit sins is.
Can you commit "sin" without using free will? Is free will a weapon in God's arsenal? What good is free will?
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: kef33890
I'm still trying to grabble with your statement that Satan is a weapon in God's arsenal. Why does God need weapons and against whom?
You must understand Windword, that God is only limited in one way that I know of.
He WILL NOT willinly tolrerate or voluteeer being in the presence of evil.
You must understand Windword, that God is only limited in one way that I know of. He WILL NOT willinly tolrerate or voluteeer being in the presence of evil. So why doesn't God destroy his fallen angles at the snap of a thumb??? God is a just God, even to Satan. Plus, Satan's time of recogning is coming just around the corner, and he knows it all too well!.
Now answerying your question. How would an ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, God/King who is supposed to be the epitome of righteousness, kill people without becming a tyrant?