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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: queenofswords
There is no answer until we get a grip on COSTS.
I don't care if next year we pay $1,200 a month with $12,000 deductibles and $150 co-pays. IT WON"T BE ENOUGH.
Priced controls and clipping the medical giants wings is the only solution. Anyone who thinks there is a legislative action that can magically make premiums $400 a month with out cost controls is not paying attention.
Does Having Insurance Mean Better Health Care?
The Centers for Disease Control collects U.S. mortality statistics and publishes them in a database called WONDER. The database is indeed a statistical wonder, allowing researchers to slice and dice U.S. mortality data into segments by age, gender, location, year, cause of morbidity, and many additional criteria.
With WONDER, it is a short exercise to attempt to confirm Wilper’s predictions. Examining U.S. adult mortality in the decade prior to Obamacare’s insurance expansion (2004-2013), the all-cause mean death rate for ages 15 to 64 is 310.4 people per 100,000. The rate is fairly steady over the decade, with a low of 306.8, a high of 313.5, and a standard deviation of 2.2. If extending taxpayer-sponsored insurance to 15 million people since 2013 has resulted in 21,000 fewer annual deaths, then the mean death rate should decrease from 310.4 to approximately 300.
Returning to the WONDER database for 2014-15 numbers, one finds the mean death rate is … 320.4. Well, that is unexpected. Since Obamacare provisions extended insurance coverage, the death rate has substantially increased, by more than 20,000 deaths per year.
A correlation does not prove causation, of course, and since we believe health insurance reduces mortality, there must be a coincident event causing the spike in deaths since 2014. And there is an apparent scapegoat. An opioid crisis has gripped the United States since Obamacare insurance expansion was implemented.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: carewemust
We fall squarely in that category, and we live in fear that husband's company might drop the insurance every year.
We've looked at things from every angle, and Obamacare will bankrupt us. And I need to have coverage or I will likely lose my capacity to hold down a job at all without care even as well-maintained as my migraines are. We even looked at the numbers on legally divorcing and staying together that way. I would have to get Medicaid which is a deal breaker.
So, yes, Obamacare would destroy us as it is, and if it would bring us down, then we can't be the only ones.