McCain goes bonkers again. Says senators are equal to the president.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
how equal was jm when ripping off the savings and loans?

didn't he have brain cancer last week?
what dr signed off on his return to work slip?

How is any of that relevant to what McCain said?

Answer: it's not.

There is no power without the money behind it. That is why congress has the power of the purse, check and balance.

You could cut McCain some slack, he should be home in bed. But the party needed him.

a reply to: allsee4eye

We are his equals,

Actually that is a fact. "We" being Congress.

I don't always agree with him, but this seems a strange thing to criticize him for.

The real power in this country has no need to swagger around telling us how great they are; in fact they shun the spotlight and operate with total impunity.

This political BS is an entertaining diversion but in the hard light of reality; it's just a transparent dog and pony show.

a reply to: Shamrock6

google is your friend see keating 5
lots of people lost money

and if he is on meds for his "cancer" a sitting senators judgement would need to at least be as good as joe six pack truck driver

a reply to: shooterbrody

So...still keeping it entirely irrelevant?

'Kay.

a reply to: allsee4eye

The Congress (and he was referring to the legislative body and working together) is an equal branch, along with the executive and the judicial branch.

a reply to: allsee4eye

How is the weather in Russia?

a reply to: Shamrock6

so its ok for a lawmaker to make decisions on painkillers that wont legally allow one to drive?

and he is a pos for his keating 5 actions

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Shamrock6

google is your friend see keating 5
lots of people lost money

and if he is on meds for his "cancer" a sitting senators judgement would need to at least be as good as joe six pack truck driver

Here's another one for ya;

Google: Ad Hominem

Maybe you'll understand just how irrelevant John McCain's role in the Keating 5 savings & loan scandal is and......how it has absolutely nothing to do with the recent statement he made, which is the topic of this debate.

a reply to: caf1550

...and who is to blame for that?

When a senator, such as John McCain, or any other, can serve in the same office for twenty, thirty, forty, even longer, years, without so much as a "boo" from the voters of his/her state, I think they may be forgiven in thinking they can get away with almost anything.

As for his comment? He's dead on target. No one elected member of govt. is above another, and it's time and past for them to learn this...but that would require a modicum of effort from the voting public.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Lemme know if you wanna discuss what McCain said in regards to the OP. Or create another thread about whatever it is you're trying to derail this thread in to.

a reply to: allsee4eye

His speech to Congress yesterday was astounding. Brilliant. He spoke only the truth, in a time we need it most, and during a time he felt the time to speak it is NOW. The content of the OP, predictably, lacks comprehension of what was said, and meant by his content.

a reply to: Flatfish

hahaha

my position is jm is a pos who stole from working people and got away with it
as a pos his words are worthless

its not : Ad Hominem when it is true

no comment on bomb bomb bomb iran voting on legislation while on painkillers?
or you ok with that as well?

the usa will be MUCH better off when that pos is six feet under

originally posted by: Noncents
a reply to: MOMof3
That's true but that doesn't make them equal. There's a lot that can be read into and made out of McCain's statement but to me it's not quite right.

The reality is, (Vis-à-vis Trump and the Senate) the Senate is proving more than equal....but could do better, but still enough to put Trump in his place..he ain't got nuttin' done yet, and now he's got Joe Pesci...sorry, Anthony Scaramucci, (I forgot Joe's an actor) it's only going to get worse, now it's two dodgy car dealers, and a chattel of nutters in the White House, never mind that they will be gutting each another in Mafia and Irish wars. Well, we'll see we'll see!

a reply to: allsee4eye

A separate senator is not the President's equal, no, but collectively, the Congress is the equal of the President, and the nine justices of the SCOTUS are the equal of the Congress and the President.

I am sure that McCain just forgot to tally in the rest of his Congressional colleagues in both Chambers.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: allsee4eye

His speech to Congress yesterday was astounding. Brilliant. He spoke only the truth, in a time we need it most, and during a time he felt the time to speak it is NOW. The content of the OP, predictably, lacks comprehension of what was said, and meant by his content.

The man has brain cancer and maybe mentally compromised.

a reply to: seagull

I would think the president, ironically, is far more aware of this than actual members of Congress. They're about as hereditary as Roman Senators were if you look at someone like McCain. For him, it seems elections are mere formality. When they did term limits for president, they should have done it for Congress too.

a reply to: ketsuko

The only people who think he "forgot to tally in the rest of his Congressional colleagues in both chambers" are the ones who are trying to cherry pick one line and twist it into something it isn't in an effort to attack the messenger.

McCain said the quoted text during a speech on the Senate floor, to the entire Senate. He said "we" rather than "I." I think it's abundantly clear to anybody with a shred of intellectual integrity what he meant.

originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: allsee4eye

Ours is an intentional system of checks and balances, so that no one branch of government carries more political power than another. For the president to wield more power than the other two branches would essentially amount to a dictatorship.

Kudos to McCain for kindly reminding his fellow senators of this truth.

Well yea but we had this conversation with Obama many times lol.