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originally posted by: Xianb
I was watching this live:
And when these idiots yelled they actually hurt my ears. And started laughing at the same time. I find these protesters Hilarious because this is just to debate. This aint even the vote and you guys are acting like this. This aint Liberal College Campuses where you can kick someone off the stage you dont agree with by violently protesting like this. This is the REAL WORLD. You get violent, you get arrested. Or if you're dumb enough to try and assassinate like the Crazy Bernie Campaign worker you get dead. How in the Hell do these paid Soros protesters not understand that this is a vote to debate?
The Left lost all power. So now they have cute chants making Republicans out to be monsters like "Kill the Bill, Don't Kill Us". So much for Free Speech. And Yes. Debates are part of Free Speech. The Left is the true Deplorables after watching this.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Xianb
I was watching this live:
And when these idiots yelled they actually hurt my ears. And started laughing at the same time. I find these protesters Hilarious because this is just to debate. This aint even the vote and you guys are acting like this. This aint Liberal College Campuses where you can kick someone off the stage you dont agree with by violently protesting like this. This is the REAL WORLD. You get violent, you get arrested. Or if you're dumb enough to try and assassinate like the Crazy Bernie Campaign worker you get dead. How in the Hell do these paid Soros protesters not understand that this is a vote to debate?
The Left lost all power. So now they have cute chants making Republicans out to be monsters like "Kill the Bill, Don't Kill Us". So much for Free Speech. And Yes. Debates are part of Free Speech. The Left is the true Deplorables after watching this.
I'm more upset that the Republican leadership are a bunch of eunuchs and geldings... completely afraid to state their position with logic and facts for fear of being disliked.
originally posted by: Xianb
I was watching this live:
And when these idiots yelled they actually hurt my ears. And started laughing at the same time. I find these protesters Hilarious because this is just to debate. This aint even the vote and you guys are acting like this. This aint Liberal College Campuses where you can kick someone off the stage you dont agree with by violently protesting like this. This is the REAL WORLD. You get violent, you get arrested. Or if you're dumb enough to try and assassinate like the Crazy Bernie Campaign worker you get dead. How in the Hell do these paid Soros protesters not understand that this is a vote to debate?
The Left lost all power. So now they have cute chants making Republicans out to be monsters like "Kill the Bill, Don't Kill Us". So much for Free Speech. And Yes. Debates are part of Free Speech. The Left is the true Deplorables after watching this.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: Xianb
I was watching this live:
And when these idiots yelled they actually hurt my ears. And started laughing at the same time. I find these protesters Hilarious because this is just to debate. This aint even the vote and you guys are acting like this. This aint Liberal College Campuses where you can kick someone off the stage you dont agree with by violently protesting like this. This is the REAL WORLD. You get violent, you get arrested. Or if you're dumb enough to try and assassinate like the Crazy Bernie Campaign worker you get dead. How in the Hell do these paid Soros protesters not understand that this is a vote to debate?
The Left lost all power. So now they have cute chants making Republicans out to be monsters like "Kill the Bill, Don't Kill Us". So much for Free Speech. And Yes. Debates are part of Free Speech. The Left is the true Deplorables after watching this.
The left has no alternative than to play hard ball. The republicans, thinking they have won, don't think they have to also play the same way.
That is why Trump is correct in leaning to replacing Sessions. In 'normal' political climes, Sessions act of reclusing himself would have been appropriate. Not in this environment. Trump being the target for the majority of these acts, knows first hand how far these people will and do go.
The left is 'all-in' . The Republicans think the fight is over, it seems.
They are wrong.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
This is a bizarre description of a bill that spent a year working through Congress, eventually passing numerous committees, two full House majority votes, one Senate supermajority vote and, in fact, many, many, many hearings. While the law did use a budget-reconciliation bill to enact minor fiscal adjustments, a maneuver that Republicans decried as akin to a death blow to the Republic, in fact its major provisions all received 60 votes in the Senate. The bill was evaluated by the independent Congressional Budget Office, and the projected premium levels in the new exchanges turned out to be accurate, and its predictions of overall federal health spending turned out to be too pessimistic, as the federal government is now spending less on health care with Obamacare than it was projected to spend without it. The bill was enacted in a democratic, deliberate, transparent, and excruciatingly slow fashion.
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originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
If that statement is based on the quote from Pelosi, it would be incorrect.
originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
If that statement is based on the quote from Pelosi, it would be incorrect.
So they did know what was in that monstrosity when they passed it?
Either way....
originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
Flat out lie. The ACA was debated on for well over a year before it was voted in.
originally posted by: Xianb
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xianb
Well, I heard that the vote happened and the Bill passed, with Pence breaking the tie. My question is, those 50 Senators who voted "AYE", did they finally find out what was in the Bill they voted for? Because of last night, none of them did.
Democrats didn't even know what was in Obama Care and they voted for it.
This [the GOP's assertion of an "authoritarian process"] is a bizarre description of a bill that spent a year working through Congress, eventually passing numerous committees, two full House majority votes, one Senate supermajority vote and, in fact, many, many, many hearings.
While the law did use a budget-reconciliation bill to enact minor fiscal adjustments, a maneuver that Republicans decried as akin to a death blow to the Republic, in fact its major provisions all received 60 votes in the Senate.
The bill was evaluated by the independent Congressional Budget Office, and the projected premium levels in the new exchanges turned out to be accurate, and its predictions of overall federal health spending turned out to be too pessimistic, as the federal government is now spending less on health care with Obamacare than it was projected to spend without it. The bill was enacted in a democratic, deliberate, transparent, and excruciatingly slow fashion.
But the claims that conservatives have falsely made about passing Obamacare provide a true description of the Republican plan to undo it. They are rushing through a bill to repeal it with maximal speed, and no public deliberation. That might be defensible if Republicans had promised the public that electing them would mean simple repeal and a restoration of the health-care system as it existed before 2010. The conservative health-care journalist Philip Klein laments that Republicans are “having a tough time stating a simple truth, which goes something like this: We don’t believe that it is the job of the federal government to guarantee that everybody has health insurance.’”