62 percent think federal government should be responsible for health for everyone

I agree. Everyone already has public education. Basic health coverage for everyone should be no brainer, especially for the #1 super power. Basic coverage IMO should include free checkup and free emergency care, but no more than that.

The two parties will continue to battle over health-care policy for years to come but there’s no question which one holds the ideological high ground. The left’s victory on this subject is assured. The only mystery is how long it’ll take.

The latest AP-NORC poll found a familiar partisan split: more than 8 in 10 Democrats said health care is a federal responsibility, compared with 3 in 10 Republicans. Political independents were more closely divided, with 54 percent saying coverage is a federal responsibility and 44 percent saying it is not.

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A third of people in New York state is already on medicaid.

"We now have about one-third of New York’s population on Medicaid," Faso said. "Some people in Albany may look upon that as an accomplishment. I look upon that as a failure."

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a reply to: allsee4eye

Other countries are there to learn from with many examples of better care being provided for a much better cost.

Bery

a reply to: seasonal

Other countries don't have a strong insurance lobby like America does.

a reply to: allsee4eye

Yes.

I do not think the high cost and terrible outcomes of the American insurance/medical is going to be solved until (after) a crash.
They can bandaid with HSA-high deductiblbe-HMO all day long. But the fact of the matter is that the whole industry is a monopoly and the ones controlling it will drive this mother into the ground before they do anything that is in the interest of the patient/consumer.

So 62% are Socialist / Communist / Textbook Fascist, then.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Or the 62% recognize the fact that our private insurance system is privatized socialism. And a corp making at least 20% off the system.

That's because people have always wanted the government to own them and take care of them like pets. People are stupid and lazy and want as much bread and circuses as they can get.

Well, hey, why not? Let the robots do all the work. Who decided that in a civilization where safety and food and the comforts of life are abundant, we have to continue to work and slave and kill ourselves to make a few measly bucks to survive?

If you want to work, fine. If you don't, fine. Free everything if you want it.

a reply to: allsee4eye


When you see an Associated Press/Norc poll, look at the polling data and questions. Usually skewed to the AP/Norc liberal stance.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: seasonal

Other countries don't have a strong insurance lobby like America does.

Screw our private healthcare insurance lobby!

As the private carriers continue pulling out of states, we should make available a not-for-profit public option and the rest will take care of itself.

All basic healthcare, (not just check-ups & emergency care) should be provided on a truly universal, not-for-profit, single-payer system administered by government.

The private market should be left to handle things like long term catastrophic care, luxury care and/or selective procedures.

a reply to: Flatfish

Back in the 1990s when I lived in Britain there used to be free medicines for the poor. Not anymore because Britain got poorer.

a reply to: seasonal

Socialism is mandatory, and thus eliminates choice. Same with Textbook Fascism. And Communism.

a reply to: allsee4eye

I don't mind being in the minority.

I want to minimize Government interference in my life as much as possible.

I am an adult and I don't need Government to take care of me.

Who here can cite a solid example of the government ever doing anything right (ANYTHING besides executing military attacks) to use as the benchmark in this argument that the Federal Government should be 100% in charge of our health.

Unless I am missing something...your source says 62%. But the poll it links to only says 60%. Did I overlook something or is your source's source wrong?

And it's not 60% of Americans. It is 60% of the people asked in this poll. That is a big difference. Was it done on a college campus? Or a senior citizen's home?

I cannot even find the # of people asked. But I've had a long day so maybe I overlooked it.

This information should not be so hard to find.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: seasonal

Socialism is mandatory, and thus eliminates choice. Same with Textbook Fascism. And Communism.

This is exactly the problem.

My way no one has to do anything against their will and no one is forced to do anything, but Socialism creates a situation where I am forced by other people to take care of them. I am not a slave and I shouldn't be forced into programs I don't want against my will.

It is madness for a country such as America not to have universal healthcare.

Especially considering they spend more than any other country on healthcare. They just funnel all the money to corrupt insurance corporations.

The American right like to condemn socialism, but America is the ultimate expression of corporate socialism. The entire system exists to support corporate welfare and the redistribution of wealth from the poor 99% to the rich 1%.

Ironically if America were to adopt a Socialist health system, as the right likes to call it, It'd probably be a damn sight cheaper than the Government stealing your money to give to their corporate puppet masters.

Of course the American Right and the American Left are the same in that regard. Both bend over backwards to serve the corporate interests at the expense of the American public.

Personally I think if the Government is going to "steal" my money, I'd like to be able to go to a doctor or hospital whenever I please without worrying about the costs or insurance or stuff.

Oh well. One day you'll learn.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Who here can cite a solid example of the government ever doing anything right (ANYTHING besides executing military attacks) to use as the benchmark in this argument that the Federal Government should be 100% in charge of our health.

On the other hand, most of us are terrible at keeping ourselves healthy. I'm not all that great at building roads or spaceships, either. So I'm willing to let the government take over the grunt work.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

If other countries are getting the medical job done better and more affordable, I would think that there is something to learn.

Where you call it socialism or poke dots. If they are doing it better and cheaper, swallow the US pride stuff and learn and apply to our system.