The transgender con ? Many transgender regret switch

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: Sheye

Why are you obsessed with others sex lives and choices? It's ridiculous. So, you don't like it? Cool. DONT GET A SEX CHANGE and REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING TO THOSE PEOPLE. Simple. Anything further than that, including threads like this, is nonsense and none of your damn business.

You can't change a person's sex.

The name "sex change" is a lie.

All it is, is a "mutilation" of the body.

Every cell of the body still has the "DNA" for "male" or "female" imprinted in it.

Each molecule in nature has it's own "vibration". So, the cells of a male body "vibrate" differently from the cells of a female.

When a male person approaches a female, they can "feel" each other's "vibration".

It's not just about how it "looks" to a casual observer.

There's a feeling, a connection through vibratory interaction, that causes an attraction when the body of a man is close to the body of a woman. Their DNA vibrate in particular ways that "attract" one to the other.

So, if you cut off the male genitalia, and give a man a female genitalia, all you do is create some kind of weird lesbian.

In the future, we may get the technology to remove all the "male dna" from each cell in the body.

This is considered "possible", because of something called a "retrovirus", that can invade the body and change the DNA of all the cells. The retrovirus is currently an "infection", but soon we'll be able to "infect" a male with female "DNA cut and switch virus", and that will be the time when "Sex Change" becomes a true reality.

You'll need to be infected by a virus, and wait the time period for that virus to make the transformation complete. It works like any virus disease.

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

I would take Walt Heyer's words with a grain of salt.

I take a lot of peoples words with a grain of salt .. 😏

It's commendable that he wants to help other transgender people in need.

Yes , it is 🙂

Still won't even clarify your own personal beliefs? You brought them up after all

I told you this thread isn't about my personal beliefs .. and that's why I won't go into detail. Do I have to answer 5 times again before you quit asking. You're baiting me always, so you can find something else to attack me with.

It's tiresome... and it's getting old ..

Lets get back to thread topic.

I have a question for transgendered . Why is it so important that everyone accepts you ?

Is it because the majority of the sex you are attracted to ,after transition ,doesn't always recipricate that attraction that the suicide rate goes up ?

I have other questions that maybe will get a real open and honest dialogue going.

a reply to: Sheye

What does it mean to accept a transgender person? You mean as a person? Or their gender dysphoria? I am pretty sure they are not demanding you to accept their gender dysphoria. They just want to be treated as human beings just like the rest of us. If they are happy then they are happy. Who are we to tell them otherwise? If they're suffering then there are people who are willing to help them.
ETA - Many transgender people are in relationships.

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

I would take Walt Heyer's words with a grain of salt.

I take a lot of peoples words with a grain of salt .. 😏

It's commendable that he wants to help other transgender people in need.

Yes , it is 🙂

Still won't even clarify your own personal beliefs? You brought them up after all

I told you this thread isn't about my personal beliefs .. and that's why I won't go into detail. Do I have to answer 5 times again before you quit asking. You're baiting me always, so you can find something else to attack me with.

It's tiresome... and it's getting old ..

Lets get back to thread topic.

I have a question for transgendered . Why is it so important that everyone accepts you ?

Is it because the majority of the sex you are attracted to ,after transition ,doesn't always recipricate that attraction that the suicide rate goes up ?

I have other questions that maybe will get a real open and honest dialogue going.

Everyone has tried to have an open and honest dialogue with you. You have proven thd impossibility of that. But of course if YOU can define the terms I'm sure its okay.

You have made your beliefs a pivotal part of your argument and stance when it is convenient for you. But as soon as others ask questions pertaining to the same matter, you lie, deflect, ignore and play victim.

Serious question....

Are you borderline?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

What does it mean to accept a transgender person? You mean as a person? Or their gender dysphoria? I am pretty sure they are not demanding you to accept their gender dysphoria. They just want to be treated as human beings just like the rest of us. If they are happy then they are happy. Who are we to tell them otherwise? If they're suffering then there are people who are willing to help them.
ETA - Many transgender people are in relationships.

I agree... and I do accept them as humans worthy of love.. but that doesn't necessarily entail accepting their choices.

I think NASCAR drivers are egotistical idiots with a death wish 😳... But I still think they're worthy of love as humans.

Bad analogy, I know... but just came off the top of my head 😕

a reply to: Sheye

LOL. I agree with the NASCAR part. And the spectators are idiots as well. I mean cars going around and around and that's entertaining? LOL.

a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

I disagree with your whole post ..

What is borderline?

... and why don't you stay on topic ?
.. are you a shill ?

...and last but not least.. what are you having for dinner tonight ?😂

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

What does it mean to accept a transgender person? You mean as a person? Or their gender dysphoria? I am pretty sure they are not demanding you to accept their gender dysphoria. They just want to be treated as human beings just like the rest of us. If they are happy then they are happy. Who are we to tell them otherwise? If they're suffering then there are people who are willing to help them.
ETA - Many transgender people are in relationships.

I agree... and I do accept them as humans worthy of love.. but that doesn't necessarily entail accepting their choices.

I think NASCAR drivers are egotistical idiots with a death wish 😳... But I still think they're worthy of love as humans.

Bad analogy, I know... but just came off the top of my head 😕

Ok.. I take some of that back.. accepting their choices is the right thing to do ( except in certain cases )... but it's ok not to agree with it.
Lots of people love each other without agreeong on the choices some may make ..even while under mental duress of any sort.

a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

You have made your beliefs a pivotal part of your argument and stance when it is convenient for you. But as soon as others ask questions pertaining to the same matter, you lie, deflect, ignore and play victim.

I haven't made it a pivotal part of my argument.. you have..

I also said, when I did reference it, that explaining would be for another thread.

originally posted by: Sheye
Is it because the majority of the sex you are attracted to ,after transition ,doesn't always recipricate that attraction that the suicide rate goes up ?

Lol.

I guarantee you that's rarely the case in most places. Why do you think pornography with us in it is such a huge market? In public, many men (many conservatives in this group) are "disgusted" by us but, in private, they hit us up on dating sites and bars. We're a fetish to those types. Aside from those types, there are plenty of men who like the aesthetics of transwomen or are indifferent (or are simply not attracted to them on a case-by-case basis like any other woman).

I'd say it's about the same level of a dating obstacle as being overweight. Larger women are either fetishized, ridiculed, or sought after because somebody is attracted to them.

It's a niche dating attribute, lol.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Sheye
Is it because the majority of the sex you are attracted to ,after transition ,doesn't always recipricate that attraction that the suicide rate goes up ?

Lol.

I guarantee you that's rarely the case in most places. Why do you think pornography with us in it is such a huge market? In public, many men (many conservatives in this group) are "disgusted" by us but, in private, they hit us up on dating sites and bars. We're a fetish to those types. Aside from those types, there are plenty of men who like the aesthetics of transwomen or are indifferent (or are simply not attracted to them on a case-by-case basis like any other woman).

I'd say it's about the same level of a dating obstacle as being overweight. Larger women are either fetishized, ridiculed, or sought after because somebody is attracted to them.

It's a niche dating attribute, lol.

Well that is very good to read...

That means that rejection doesn't actually play a part of that 22 to 42 % ?.. suicide rate.

So trans are definately not killing themselves because of that... good to know

Is it because they are in sex industries alot , and end up hating the lifestyle ?

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

You have made your beliefs a pivotal part of your argument and stance when it is convenient for you. But as soon as others ask questions pertaining to the same matter, you lie, deflect, ignore and play victim.

I haven't made it a pivotal part of my argument.. you have..

I also said, when I did reference it, that explaining would be for another thread.

Yes you have. You bring it up freely. You mention how he is the final judge and how you pray for the answers. You continue to cry fake persecution because you think we're attacking you for no reason. You provided a lot of faith based articles.

Outside of your continued God excuse, your arguments have been baseless.

And you constantly derail the thread by ignoring the questions. Why do you think we keep asking them? You kind of have to be repetitive when the person in which you're posting to continues to ignore everything and deflect.

And really? Calling me a shill? Haha. Deflect some more. Every post is a deflect. If it's not a deflect or a victim game then its questions others have already answered with actual evidence. But you ignore it. Everyone has seen that. Lol.

Have a good weekend, Sheye. Seriously.

I only suggest, from one person to another, that you consider cleaning up the dishonesty. Because, like I said, others will not take you seriously if you move forward with acting like you have in this thread.

Bye for now.

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Sheye
Is it because the majority of the sex you are attracted to ,after transition ,doesn't always recipricate that attraction that the suicide rate goes up ?

Lol.

I guarantee you that's rarely the case in most places. Why do you think pornography with us in it is such a huge market? In public, many men (many conservatives in this group) are "disgusted" by us but, in private, they hit us up on dating sites and bars. We're a fetish to those types. Aside from those types, there are plenty of men who like the aesthetics of transwomen or are indifferent (or are simply not attracted to them on a case-by-case basis like any other woman).

I'd say it's about the same level of a dating obstacle as being overweight. Larger women are either fetishized, ridiculed, or sought after because somebody is attracted to them.

It's a niche dating attribute, lol.

Well that is very good to read...

That means that rejection doesn't a tually play a part of that 22 to 42 % ?.. suicide rate.

So trans are definately not killing themselves because of that... good to know

Is it because they are in sex industries alot , and end up hating the lifestyle ?

No, that's not what I was saying. I was saying that people being sexually attracted (or not) to trans folk is not a huge component in the "acceptance" scorecard.

If you noticed, much of the attraction I was talking about is from men who fetishize transwomen. Most trans folk I know avoid these people like a plague. But to say that transwomen are universally seen as unattractive by men is just waaaay off.

So yes, the obstacles presented to a trans person, socially, are often what drives some to suicide. But your example isn't really a part of that equation. A lot of women have dating issues, not just the trans ones. Trans men also have their own "chasers" but that's outside of my expertise.

a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

And you constantly derail the thread by ignoring the questions. Why do you think we keep asking them? You kind of have to be repetitive when the person in which you're posting to continues to ignore everything and deflect.

I have answered the questions ... you keep derailing the thread by asking the same ones over.
You want me to agree on your authorities on this subject, and I simply don't.

I list articles from doctors , and you shout bias..

So be it.. agree to disagree on who is the ultimate authority on this topic... and let me carry on with posting REAL regrets , from whatever source they may come from.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Sheye
Is it because the majority of the sex you are attracted to ,after transition ,doesn't always recipricate that attraction that the suicide rate goes up ?

Lol.

I guarantee you that's rarely the case in most places. Why do you think pornography with us in it is such a huge market? In public, many men (many conservatives in this group) are "disgusted" by us but, in private, they hit us up on dating sites and bars. We're a fetish to those types. Aside from those types, there are plenty of men who like the aesthetics of transwomen or are indifferent (or are simply not attracted to them on a case-by-case basis like any other woman).

I'd say it's about the same level of a dating obstacle as being overweight. Larger women are either fetishized, ridiculed, or sought after because somebody is attracted to them.

It's a niche dating attribute, lol.

Well that is very good to read...

That means that rejection doesn't a tually play a part of that 22 to 42 % ?.. suicide rate.

So trans are definately not killing themselves because of that... good to know

Is it because they are in sex industries alot , and end up hating the lifestyle ?

No, that's not what I was saying. I was saying that people being sexually attracted (or not) to trans folk is not a huge component in the "acceptance" scorecard.

If you noticed, much of the attraction I was talking about is from men who fetishize transwomen. Most trans folk I know avoid these people like a plague. But to say that transwomen are universally seen as unattractive by men is just waaaay off.

So yes, the obstacles presented to a trans person, socially, are often what drives some to suicide. But your example isn't really a part of that equation. A lot of women have dating issues, not just the trans ones. Trans men also have their own "chasers" but that's outside of my expertise.

Thanks ... I'm trying to understand better why the suicide rate is so high ?

Why do so many drop out of test studies ?

It's become much more socially accepted in the past years , even novel and cool for many, so I really don't see that society not accepting them ,as a huge factor in suicide.

There are always people not accepted for something.😕

Out of curiosity I decided to find more information on Walt Heyer and I found this:

Heyer made similar arguments while appearing on a segment for CNN International.

But while he was granted a platform to comment on transgender issues, Heyer's experience isn't reflective of the experiences of the overwhelming majority of transgender people; he even admits that he was "misdiagnosed" and was actually suffering with "a dissociative disorder that required talk therapy, not surgery." His views about transitioning aren't rooted in research or medical expertise. The idea that many transgender people experience "transition regrets" has been widely debunked and contradicts the positions of major professional medical organizations, which all view transitioning as an important and beneficial step for people who identify with a gender identity that doesn't correspond with their biological sex.

When he's not appearing on a major cable news network, Heyer is a source of extreme transphobic commentary. He's alled gender reassignment surgery a "modern day frontal lobotomy," asserted that parents who help their children transition should be punished with "at least 20 years in prison," and has called Chaz Bono a "poser transgender" because "she has resisted having a 'Snoopy' attached." 

That kind of extremism has made Heyer a favorite of anti-gay hate groups, including MassResistance and Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, who tout his story as proof that being transgender is a mental problem that can be treated or cured. But it also makes Heyer an odd choice for mainstream media outlets, which should be emphasizing the commentary of experts rather than fringe voices.

www.mediamatters.org...

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Ok... that's opinion .

Everyone has one ...

I'm asking questions now .. and few are trying to answer 😕

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: Sheye

Why are you obsessed with others sex lives and choices? It's ridiculous. So, you don't like it? Cool. DONT GET A SEX CHANGE and REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING TO THOSE PEOPLE. Simple. Anything further than that, including threads like this, is nonsense and none of your damn business.

You can't change a person's sex.

The name "sex change" is a lie.

Well Gender is something assigned at birth based on genital appearance. Our thought process seems to exclude intersexed children born with ambiguous genitalia where a doctor essentially tosses a coin and mutilates the child's genitalia and in the majority of cases tells the parents to raise the child as a female and hope for the best.

All it is, is a "mutilation" of the body.

Every cell of the body still has the "DNA" for "male" or "female" imprinted in it.

Except that you're completely wrong. Not everyone is born just XX or XY not are every male or females genes expressing in the same way.

Each molecule in nature has it's own "vibration". So, the cells of a male body "vibrate" differently from the cells of a female.

When a male person approaches a female, they can "feel" each other's "vibration".

It's not just about how it "looks" to a casual observer.

There's a feeling, a connection through vibratory interaction, that causes an attraction when the body of a man is close to the body of a woman. Their DNA vibrate in particular ways that "attract" one to the other.

Nothing like a quaint stroll through crazy town to start off my Friday night! On the DL, message me the number of your guy because I want to try out whatever the hell youre smoking.

So, if you cut off the male genitalia, and give a man a female genitalia, all you do is create some kind of weird lesbian.

I'm glad to hear that you don't have any sons and haven't subjected them to circumcision. You know, mutilating their genitals?

In the future, we may get the technology to remove all the "male dna" from each cell in the body.

This is considered "possible", because of something called a "retrovirus", that can invade the body and change the DNA of all the cells. The retrovirus is currently an "infection", but soon we'll be able to "infect" a male with female "DNA cut and switch virus", and that will be the time when "Sex Change" becomes a true reality.

You'll need to be infected by a virus, and wait the time period for that virus to make the transformation complete. It works like any virus disease.

You're a disgusting and reprehensible excuse for a human being. I'm still in shock that someone actually made Shaye's objections appear logical and reasonable in comparison. At least she didn't refer to Transgendered people as a viral disease. Seriously, get some help, get a library card, take a class in genetics and then come back and talk out your posterior some more because you haven't got the foggiest notion what you're talking about.

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Ok... that's opinion .

Everyone has one ...

I'm asking questions now .. and few are trying to answer 😕

What do you make of Walt's statement that he was misdiagnosed and suffered dissocative disorder? That's right out of his own mouth.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Ok... that's opinion .

Everyone has one ...

I'm asking questions now .. and few are trying to answer 😕

What do you make of Walt's statement that he was misdiagnosed and suffered dissocative disorder? That's right out of his own mouth.

I think he could be right. I think there is a lot of confusion for the patient as well as misdiagnosis within this medical field.