Australian Justine Damond shot dead by US police in Minneapolis

a reply to: Hypntick

I re-read your post and yes I did miss that part, my apologies. As for this situation, I doubt the dash cam would have helped much anyways but yes if the body cams were on then a lot of questions would already be answered.

originally posted by: GusMcDangerthing
I simply don't give a sht. That's the real difference here

This sums up your position clearly enough.

a reply to: GusMcDangerthing

Son between the job I do everyday and my experiences from my time in the Marine Corps there is really nothing that shocks or disturbs me anymore, do I feel bad about things I have seen and experienced in the line of duty, yes of course I do I am human I have already stated that in earlier posts how the job can effect you, it definitely sucks at times when you know you are helpless to do things at times. I can totally fathom this situation, no matter how tragic it is, you are calling for the death of a cop before the investigation even finishes, you forget there is still Law and Order in this country no matter what what you see on the nightly news.

But as for trying to trip you up I can vehemently say I am not trying to do that, I just disagree with some of the things you are saying. We can both agree that this is a tragic situation, most likely a BAD shoot legally speaking, and yes Officer Noor should face charges for this.

originally posted by: caf1550
a reply to: dreamingawake

Now I always support the police and all of the cases like this. Now it is tough to come to a conclusion about why the officer shot as it is now being investigated, If he was in the wrong he should be prepared to be indicted and charged. We will just have to let this investigation play out.

We know man, it is beginning to be quite the problem.

a reply to: sputniksteve

Whats the problem, please enlighten me, i'm guessing it is because I am a LEO and I back the blue and for some reason that hurts your soft mental state?

Maybe if you read the rest of what I wrote instead of just taking one short sentence you will see that I think that this Officer was totally in the wrong and charges should be brought against him, but I'm guessing i'm asking to much out of you here. I have in no way said that I support what the officer did, I just said to let the investigation play out but no everyone on here is so quick to judge and call for someones death, flip this situation around and no one would give a single ***K about a dead officer, were was your outrage when a single mother of three was ambushed and murdered sitting in her squad car, ohh that's right you were no where to be found.

So I ask again what is the problem here?

I've read through 14 pages of this thread and there's nothing at all about the reason Justine called 911.

She called twice because she thought a woman was being assaulted or raped.

Has any other woman come forward to say Yes that was me, or at least to say they were having loud consensual sex? No?
I guess you would feel guilty about it and all but I believe it's important to the sequence of events that lead to Justine's death. A follow up question is - Did any other police or detective investigate Justine's concerns in the aftermath of her death or were they just focused on Noor?

Was a woman raped or assaulted or not?

That's what I would like to know.

And for the man/boy on the bike to come forward. And any other neighbours who heard those noises come forward.

(I'm not dismissing Justine's death either, for the record)

a reply to: auroraaus

I've yet to see anything about the victim she was calling about -see transcrip here. I'd assume that if anything was found about it, that it may not be for public release. If anyone has seen an update on this particularly please share.

Why are you wondering, guess I can better answer from my own view/opinion from that. Personally as I have seen people mentioning around the net about "suicide by cop", I don't believe she called them in hopes of a suicide by cop situation(wouldn't she just call on herself-saying that she was suicidal, etc, seems like that would be more effective?), despite sources saying she was going through a rough time mentally,etc.

I'm not in that state or have heard much about the area she lived in besides it was a nicer, affluent neighborhood. If that's the case I'd then think it wouldn't be a common occurrence in the neighborhood from let's say- if it was a "lady of the night" or even if a teenager sneaking out of the house, there's chances they won't come forward. To say that's probably why it really worried Justine, especially as she noted it they may have been asking for help.

Indeed and hopefully soon(unless they did and it's not being discussed yet-legal reasons) that the witness on the bike speaks out.

a reply to: dreamingawake

I'm wondering because potentially there's another victim here. And that victim appears to be forgotten.

originally posted by: auroraaus
a reply to: dreamingawake

I'm wondering because potentially there's another victim here. And that victim appears to be forgotten.

Thanks for clarifying. Pretty sad isn't it. I really hope that something was found out if that was the case, for justice for the victim as well as Justine-family and friends say she was a really caring person and what she would have wanted for a victim.

originally posted by: caf1550
a reply to: GusMcDangerthing

Son between the job I do everyday and my experiences from my time in the Marine Corps there is really nothing that shocks or disturbs me anymore, do I feel bad about things I have seen and experienced in the line of duty, yes of course I do I am human I have already stated that in earlier posts how the job can effect you, it definitely sucks at times when you know you are helpless to do things at times. I can totally fathom this situation, no matter how tragic it is, you are calling for the death of a cop before the investigation even finishes, you forget there is still Law and Order in this country no matter what what you see on the nightly news.

But as for trying to trip you up I can vehemently say I am not trying to do that, I just disagree with some of the things you are saying. We can both agree that this is a tragic situation, most likely a BAD shoot legally speaking, and yes Officer Noor should face charges for this.

Don't even try with that sort of cheap attempt to belittle me you have no idea of my age, don't call me son.

You are not the only one around with some life experience under their belt and in this case I expect someone like you to be well aware that a line has been crossed. I fully understand that if you're a cop then my anger would make you uncomfortable but frankly you have all been uncomfortable with the public whether we smile or shoot at you and this instance is yet more proof of that.

I say justify your jobs or disband the lot of you and after that keep close watch to ensure you don't go insane lone wolf on us all.

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a reply to: GusMcDangerthing

Threats are not the way to solve this. No one, not even Noor should be threatened. However, I do feel like officer Noor is being treated differently simply because the Mayor, and the Minneapolis police were using Noor as "an example that Muslim immigrants are assimilating just fine".

I am not trying to say, or imply that just because he is a Somali Muslim he would be a bad person. But what i have seen so far speaks volumes as to the reality that at least the mayor, if not other authority figures in Minneapolis/Minnesota would try to shield Noor simply because he is a Somali Muslim.

If you look at the video I provided, you can see the mayor even smiling as she is claiming "the needless death... *smiles*. Hard day guys... *tries to hide smirk yet again* the needless death of Justine..."

The mayor doesn't even take seriously the death of Justine.

That's not mentioning that even thou Noor is declining to make a statement, his partner apparently was the one to state what she saw happen. That Justine got close to them, and she was talking to them, explaining she heard/witnessed a sexual assault just 4 minutes before the officers, including Noor arrived at Justine's home (or her partner's home), when suddenly Noor drew his weapon and shot Justine several times.

Justine was trying to tell the two officers that she had witnessed/heard a sexual assault right behind her house. This is important. We don't know, and we might never know who Justine saw, or heard sexually assaulting a woman. Is it possible that Noor war involved, or he may even had known the criminal who sexually assaulted another woman? Was that the reason why he shot Justine? To stop her from testifying to the event she witnessed?

Inside edition compiled the event, as the other officer stated had happened. At least that's what was said at the beginning.

Here is the video.

Latest updates -
* - The victim called 911 to report either a sexual assault or a lady having sex outside. After a few minutes she called 911 back to inquire about the officers ETA, wondering if they might have been sent to / responded to the wrong address. 911 told her officers were on their way.

* - Officers arrive, turn off their headlights, roll down their windows to check the area.

* - loud noise startles officers, victim comes towards the window of the patrol car.

* - Officer thinks its an ambush and fires at the victim.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
If you look at the video I provided, you can see the mayor even smiling as she is claiming "the needless death... *smiles*. Hard day guys... *tries to hide smirk yet again* the needless death of Justine..."

The mayor doesn't even take seriously the death of Justine.

She's a jihadist and a traitor to America.

Minneapolis: From Hijab to Jihad

Every time I run a search on this ... what's going on in the city of Minneapolis blows me away.

In a press conference today Minneapolis Police Chief Janee Harteau had this to say:

Justine Damond "didn't have to die."

"On our squad cars you will find the words 'To protect with courage and serve with passion.' This did not happen," Harteau said. "I believe the actions in question go against who we are as a department, how we train and the expectations we have for our officers."

"I want to ensure Justine's family, our community and those in Australia that I will do everything in my power to make sure due process is followed and justice is served," she said.

And her thoughts on the body cams:

"It is my belief the body cameras should have been activated. My expectation is that body camera policy is followed ... and those cameras should be on," Harteau said.

SOURCE

a reply to: FraggleRock

Got to love Monday morning quarterbacking from the Chief.

a reply to: dreamingawake

Just listening to an update on the BBC news over here in the UK, the guy whom shot her as she was approaching the police vehicle dressed in her pajamas's shot over his partner from the opposite side of the car, his name is Muhammad Noor and he is a Somali born American citizen.

Why did they not have there body camera's enabled and could this have had something to do with culture, a woman in pajamas's approaching a car with a guy whom come's from a very different culture to report a crime he probably did not rate under his native culture as a crime of anyone but the victim and if so is this wrongly being categorized and was it really simple murder, the victim was an attractive blond Australian woman.

Who was the victim of the suspected rape, who were the perpetrator's and could that also have had baring on this incident, I personally do not believe there was any loud bang heard by him or his partner and that is just a ruse and that they are obviously crooked cop's or why not have there body camera's rolling.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FraggleRock

Got to love Monday morning quarterbacking from the Chief.

Well, she is the police chief of the city in question, and thus is about 11 billion times more qualified to opine on this than random people on a message board.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FraggleRock

Got to love Monday morning quarterbacking from the Chief.

Well, she is the police chief of the city in question, and thus is about 11 billion times more qualified to opine on this than random people on a message board.

haha

Plenty of unqualified people placed in jobs. Work history is the way to determine qualification.

What is the source of this info on the incident? First hand? People never lie, do they?