Anti-Trump Snobbery

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Of course, it's selective posting and cherry picking of the article.....

What Trumpeters would call "Fake News". But the OP is using the same tactics and assumptions that Trump does w his support base.....

That is he knows they won't read the entire article, or read it at all for that matter , beyond what adheres to their confirmation bias....

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Those citing his character

One has to wonder if those of us who didn't like Clinton because of her character (or her total lack thereof) were snobs for doing so.

So true very good point.

How many times was untrustworthy cited as a reason for hating Clinton, yet when people say the same about Trump they are snobs, just more hypocrisy from the Trump camp

It's Trump supporters version of screaming "racist" when we didn't agree w Obama ....

Cloward and piven strategy to discredit and demean the opposing side in an attempt to make them irrelevant

The OP has become part of the problem in this country, furthering the divide and animosity instead of trying to find common ground on principles and healing the divide

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I'm not in your country. I'm sorry, but you are irrelevant.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Yeah it doesn't mention snobbery. I never claimed it did. Yes it is on me.

It's like arguing with a wet paper bag. You look awful.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

...and you'd find yourself to be a little bit inferior in all aspects.

Why don't you kiss his ass a little more.

That should help.

That burning sensation can be easily solved!

Use that often enough to know, do you?
I'll take your word for it...

He keeps a big jar on hand so it doesn't hurt as much when Trump's policies screw him and others.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

It's the Amazing Mindreader. Yes, I want you to feel lesser than me by using big words. It's amazing how you know my wants and desires by reading words on a screen.

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I've been saying it for awhile now.

The left needs to drop the moral facade and take a hard look into the mirror.

I think you would be a reflection of me, yet we wouldn't even notice. None of us are immune to bias. Thinking you are somehow above universal human traits is a recipe for a boring life.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Yeah it doesn't mention snobbery. I never claimed it did. Yes it is on me.

Ahh so now you admit OP is basically political baiting and no more.

Then added in a few insults for good measure.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

It's the Amazing Mindreader. Yes, I want you to feel lesser than me by using big words. It's amazing how you know my wants and desires by reading words on a screen.

You know, I actually think this is true.

I know because quite honestly when I was younger I used to write something, then go though it with a thesaurus to make myself look smarter. It was utterly stupid because when I read back years later at old essays it reads like someone who loves the thesaurus a little bit too much. Your posts are like mine 10 years ago.

Then I learned that no about of "big words" will make a argument any better if I have no logic or facts, your argument that those who oppose trump might have a few big words behind it but very little facts and even less logic

But I am just being a snob so what do I know right?

It's like arguing with a wet paper bag. You look awful.

A paper bag you seem unable to fight your way out of...

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The OP has become part of the problem in this country, furthering the divide and animosity instead of trying to find common ground on principles and healing the divide

Uh, not so much. Rather this OP was the PRODUCT of the divide and animosity; its a reflection of the "fact" of the divide. The divide exists because there is no common ground on principles; there can't be because the divide exists between 2 different cultures with irreconcilable differences. Healing won't happen until either one side definitively and inexorably eradicates the other OR unless there's a total divorce.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

It's the Amazing Mindreader. Yes, I want you to feel lesser than me by using big words. It's amazing how you know my wants and desires by reading words on a screen.

You know, I actually think this is true.

I know because quite honestly when I was younger I used to write something, then go though it with a thesaurus to make myself look smarter. It was utterly stupid because when I read back years later at old essays it reads like someone who loves the thesaurus a little bit too much. Your posts are like mine 10 years ago.

Then I learned that no about of "big words" will make a argument any better if I have no logic or facts, your argument that those who oppose trump might have a few big words behind it but very little facts and even less logic

But I am just being a snob so what do I know right?

It's like arguing with a wet paper bag. You look awful.

A paper bag you seem unable to fight your way out of...

Sounds like an admission of guilt, nothing more. You have nothing but your own history and past from which to gleam your fatuous arguments about someone else.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So to get back on topic, based on what you have said so far, are people who oppose Trump because of his character and personality (i.e.. being viewed to be untrustworthy, inexperienced, self-focused, etc) snobs?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

According to a Gallup poll, the majority of Americans who disapprove of President Donald Trump do so not because they are opposed to his policy and results, but because they do not like his character or personality. No surprise. We also know from the many negative, and often obsessive references to his mannerisms, his hair, his voice, his skin, his body, they also take issue with how he looks. These and other extrinsic critiques of a person are evidence of snobbery.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
According to a Gallup poll, the majority of Americans who disapprove of President Donald Trump do so not because they are opposed to his policy and results, but because they do not like his character or personality. No surprise. We also know from the many negative, and often obsessive references to his mannerisms, his hair, his voice, his skin, his body, they also take issue with how he looks. These and other extrinsic critiques of a person are evidence of snobbery.

At the core of snobbery is the attempt to make yourself feel superior at the sacrifice of others, often by determining merit on external factors and other trifles. In the end it is the snob’s tenuous but exaggerated and extravagant view of himself that he needs to have confirmed by an outward display of his supercilious feelings. The only reward is the sudden but short-lived emotional currency, but the effects are often detrimental. As D.H. Lawrence wrote, “[snobbery] is the desire for what divides men and the inability to value what unites them".

No it isn’t about results or policy or even the politics, but how the president looks in comparison to how the snobs wishes he would look. With Obama, the snobs of the media could proudly virtue-signal to the rest of the world about their high-mindedness, all of it designed to impress, even if little changed in terms of policy and results.

Due to the sensational ridiculing of the president to the rest of the world (much of which was fake or false, but always snobbish), the media has only eroded America's image since Trump became president. Snobbery, after all, is always a process of diminishing returns.

The irony is that, though Trump's personality is labelled vulgar, boorish, a baffoon, a man-child, and a bully, snobbery is all of those things par excellence. But I'm very certain that if we were able to put Trump beside you, the reality wouldn't live up to the over-exaggerated view of yourself, and you'd find yourself to be a little bit inferior in all aspects.

LesMis

Not liking someone's character doesn't mean that you don't like the way they look. It means you do not like they way they act, and treat other people.

Quit trying to connect dots that aren't there.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

According to a Gallup poll, the majority of Americans who disapprove of President Donald Trump do so not because they are opposed to his policy and results, but because they do not like his character or personality. No surprise. We also know from the many negative, and often obsessive references to his mannerisms, his hair, his voice, his skin, his body, they also take issue with how he looks. These and other extrinsic critiques of a person are evidence of snobbery.

Interesting again that you ignore the part where they said that

The detailed explanations given by those disapproving of Trump appear in the table below. Those citing his character and personality are most likely to name his temperament, arrogance and tendency to act "nonpresidential." Others comment on his inexperience and offer explanations pertaining to his self-focus, Twitter use and perceived untrustworthiness.

Dude you are 100% wrong on this, people do not oppose Trump due to Snobbery please just accept that.

a reply to: VoxVirtus

You neglected to mention the other points of my argument.

Quit avoiding the dots you don't like.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Interesting that you ignore the rest of my argument, a point of which you have already admitted you are guilty.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Interesting that you ignore the rest of my argument, a point of which you have already admitted you are guilty.

how many times do we have to go through this, you quite clearly said that those who oppose trump because of his personality do so because of his character or personality and as such they are snobs?

Are you now finally admitting that you are wrong on this?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Do you admit that you ignore the rest of my argument, a point of which you have already admitted you are guilty? The body shaming? You said yourself he resembles a scrotum or something. What was it?