The Trump Jr. meeting proves Russian Collusion is a phony crisis.

a reply to: Nikola014

Yeah those lies.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

None of that is speculation honey. It's solid reporting.

Well now you are just outright lying about what YOU posted
here is a reminder

Why were Russian agents discussing trump associates in correspondence way back in May of 2015?

I dont know why..... that is in no way SOLID it is SPECULATION

it appeared

More SPECULATION

Coincidence?? I think not.

More SPECULATION

Here's something we really all know. Trump has many business partners in Russia. Lots of wealthy contacts and associates. Russia was a source of revenue.

Is it illegal to conduct business outside the us now, or just for trump?
No facts to back up your statement so guess what more SPECULATION

Within hours of the receipt of this email trump was announcing a big speech he was planning about Hillary. Of course he didn't deliver.

SPECULATION

You NEVER post facts
You NEVER post sources

Yet you have the stones to call out others for speculation.

a reply to: jjkenobi

Oh good one. Who made up that version I wonder.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Yeah true to form you omitted what you dont like...
www.wsj.com...

It isn’t clear whether Mr. Trump’s associates had any connection to his presidential aspirations

assets.msnbc.com...

investigators are looking into

Stop lying

a reply to: shooterbrody

What ??.. his associates had nothing to do with his presidential aspirations?
They became his campaign surrogates.
Stop trivializing the information. One sentence doesn't change the story.

Russia was talking about them to such an extent that the CIA said WTF...

And these are just the crumbs we know about. Imagine what Mueller and his team have discovered...

a reply to: shooterbrody

McClatchy is analysing the metadata now. They can try but they can't completely erase the footprint.

a reply to: Sillyolme

What ??.. his associates had nothing to do with his presidential aspirations?

Now you are mad at me for info from a link YOU posted?
wow

You are just completely full of crap

a reply to: shooterbrody

I always post facts.
You just refuse to accept them.
I'm not writing this story. It's happening because trump and his team of cohorts are as dirty as the day is long. I can't help that. I didn't make it true.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Isn't clear but sure is suspected. Doesn't say probably didn't happen.
Says isn't clear.
Mueller is also investigating this.

Come on select what you like ...

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

McClatchy is analysing the metadata now. They can try but they can't completely erase the footprint.

More bs from you it seems...
Hey guess what here is an actual source...
hotair.com...

By Election Day, an automated Kremlin cyberattack of unprecedented scale and sophistication had delivered critical and phony news about the Democratic presidential nominee to the Twitter and Facebook accounts of millions of voters, many in swing states, even in key precincts.

Twitter and Facebook
wow
really
stuff on twitter and facebook may be fake
you are learning this just now?
no wonder you have sourcing problems

It’s an interesting report, but a read through the entire article turns up not one single item of evidence to support it. The premise rests on the idea that the Trump campaign actually had a superior digital operation, an assumption that doesn’t have much evidence to support it either. Democrats spent far more money and effort on digital, but in pursuit of the wrong goals. Team Trump didn’t even take that effort seriously until just before the convention, and had such a deficit of field offices in relation to Hillary Clinton’s campaign that the RNC had to throw even more resources at the gap in September.

NOt one single item of evidence
you know the stuff you have to have to charge someone with a crime....

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

Isn't clear but sure is suspected. Doesn't say probably didn't happen.
Says isn't clear.
Mueller is also investigating this.

Come on select what you like ...

You were the one with the speculation problem......

jesus hypocrite much

a reply to: shooterbrody

Ha ha. You select what you like and interpret how you want it.
And I'm full of crap? Oh please.
You know this is way way more serious than you're pretending. I know your faking it and so do you because it's becoming clearer every day that the Russian narrative is way more than just talk.

It just astounds me that since the two party system was enacted with John Adams and his like. All politicians have traded favors for dirt on their opponent. Now for some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, doing the very act they all have been doing, is now wrong and should be used to remove Trump from office. Hypocrites.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: Sillyolme

I see you're playing catch up.

The meeting was a fake, setup by a 3rd party Rob Goldstone and FusionGPS, a Democrat funded org. He sent a phishing E-mail to Trump Jr, who took the bait. He sent a phishing E-mail to the lawyer, who took the bait. They met and nothing happened because it was a setup.

Sure sounds like a big crime to me.

Actually there were more emails that paint an even darker picture.

Last night on MSNBC, Chris Hayes showed the chain of emails leading up to the one that's currently dominating media coverage and it looks like Rob Goldstone arranged a phone call, (at Donald Jr.'s request) between Emin and Donald Jr. prior to the email that appears to set up the meeting with the lawyer.

An hour after Emin was scheduled to call Donald Jr., there was another email from Donald Jr. to Goldstone, thanking him for all his help arranging the phone call.

After the emails where Goldstone arranges the phone call with Emin, there's another email from Goldstone asking Donald Jr. to get in touch so they, (Don Jr. & Goldstone) can schedule the meeting that he, (Goldstone) was sure that Donald Jr. already knew about, implying that the meeting was initially agreed upon by Donald Jr. & Emin during their phone call.

Then comes the email we're all talking about now, where it actually schedules the meeting with the lawyer and goes on to explicitly state that the Russian government is interested in helping Trump get elected.

I have a feeling the Russian lawyer who was already scheduled to travel to the U.S. for a legal case, was also being utilized by Emin as a courier tasked with delivering a "package" of information to Donald Jr. as opposed to oral revelations of Clinton misdeeds.

Not sure whether the lawyer knew she was being used to deliver election opposition research or not, but if I were the Russian on the other end of this deal, I would want her knowing as little as possible. The less she knows, the less she is able to reveal.

Anyway and to make a long story short, I believe she did indeed deliver the promised dirt on Hillary/Podesta in the form of a sealed package and right now they, (Donald Jr. & the Russian lawyer) are lying their asses off when they say the meeting was only about Russian orphans and U.S. adoptions. That's just a cover story and a weak one at that.

This is far from over.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: JDmOKI

Yeah I think Russia made people vote for trump by publishing bull # lies about Hillary all summer. They sure did make people vote for trump.
Don't give me that crap.

What was that you said earlier in this thread about speculation? Every word in your quote is exactly that.

What Bs lies about Hillary? I don't know one single person that voted for Trump because of Russia. I know a lot of f@#$_&g people that voted for him because the Dems ran Hillary against him. If those of you on the left wouldn't have sat on your asses when the DNC screwed Bernie, we might have President Sanders, instead of President Trump. It would've been a long shot, but he stood a better chance than Hillary.

originally posted by: jtma508
'To Catch A Predator' routinely cooks-up all manner of phony stuff to convince some middle aged guy that if he shows-up at such-and-such address he can fool around with an underage kid. The guy shows-up, doesn't do anything, but gets arrested. Why? Because he showed INTENT to commit a crime.

Colluding with an agent of a foreign government is a crime. Donnie Jr. clearly showed he was giddily interested and he showed-up to commit the act. Whether he was setup, duped, or whatever is immaterial. He was ready, willing, and able to collude with an agent of a foreign government. Spin it however you like but that is what happened. He's either incredibly stupid or a biglie security risk.

When the New York Times met with Daniel Ellsberg and received the 'Pentagon Papers' they received classified materials that were taken from the US government illegally.
How many people from the New York Times went to jail for that incident?
How many went to trial for it?
How many were even accused of a crime for that matter?

Funny how folks will get upset at the THOUGHT or ALLEGATION of Trump receiving help from another successful white culture in the Russians, but won't bat an eyelash at Hillary/Obama/Soros fronting for the barbaric middle-eastern culture that is quite literally anti-American.

Heaven forbid Trump received help to oust the anti-American invaders propped up by crooks like Hillary. We literally have a brainwashed populous (left) that is supporting the anti-American agenda under the pretense that Hillary (and the rest of the gang) is the face of the movement.

Even if Russia and Trump were 100% guilty in orchestrating a plot to illegally overthrow the current leadership in the USA, it would be leaps and bounds better than answering to the Clinton/Obama/Soros regime and watching our country swirl down the toiletbowl.

Trump has 2020 in the bag.

a reply to: Sillyolme

I know your faking it and so do you because it's becoming clearer every day that the Russian narrative is way more than just talk.

I am not faking disgust at you calling people out for speculation then posting your crap with no sources.

As to the "russian narrative" the only actual evidence we have been shown is bots,facebook,and twitter.
That is not evidence.
That is the internet every day.

originally posted by: jtma508
'To Catch A Predator' routinely cooks-up all manner of phony stuff to convince some middle aged guy that if he shows-up at such-and-such address he can fool around with an underage kid. The guy shows-up, doesn't do anything, but gets arrested. Why? Because he showed INTENT to commit a crime.

Colluding with an agent of a foreign government is a crime. Donnie Jr. clearly showed he was giddily interested and he showed-up to commit the act. Whether he was setup, duped, or whatever is immaterial. He was ready, willing, and able to collude with an agent of a foreign government. Spin it however you like but that is what happened. He's either incredibly stupid or a biglie security risk.

Because messing with underage individuals and meeting with a foreign lawyer are the same thing.
What's your opinion of Lynch letting her in?