The Trump Jr. meeting proves Russian Collusion is a phony crisis.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Collusion - Illusion - Delusion
Nothing but a last ditch effort to try and get the heat off some Dems
The ones that yell the loudest are probably going to the pokey in the end
Sh** Storm coming
Wonder if Obama picked out his bug-out location in Indonesia from whence he cant be extradited ?
Time will tell

Re direct again this is not about Obama! Last ditch effort? What did we make him publish those damning emails? How come not one page goes by without you people bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic. The storm is coming and the thunder is loud, but its coming for the trump admin.....they brought it on themselves!!!

a reply to: Sillyolme

I'm not scared of Russia and Russia didn't make people vote for trump. I want real issues to be addressed not to be hammered with Russian headlines.

Considering trump Jr release those emails himself yes they're real.... Most MSM headline ls do have a little truth and are twisted and twisted until they move on to the next story

If he broke laws I'm very sure the dems will act on it. Let's just hope Hillary getals the same treatment for Russian collusion and shady business.

a reply to: kurthall

He released those emails to be ahead of the media headlines. He knew the NYTs was gonna release evidence he met with a Russian lawyer

originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: Gothmog
Collusion - Illusion - Delusion
Nothing but a last ditch effort to try and get the heat off some Dems
The ones that yell the loudest are probably going to the pokey in the end
Sh** Storm coming
Wonder if Obama picked out his bug-out location in Indonesia from whence he cant be extradited ?
Time will tell

Re direct again this is not about Obama! Last ditch effort? What did we make him publish those damning emails? How come not one page goes by without you people bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic. The storm is coming and the thunder is loud, but its coming for the trump admin.....they brought it on themselves!!!

Youre not from around these parts , er ya ?

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: kurthall

He released those emails to be ahead of the media headlines. He knew the NYTs was gonna release evidence he met with a Russian lawyer

Exactly, he would not have released them at all if it were not for the NYTs! I also love his interview on the 700 club, where he said Russia would have preferred Hillary, really? That is also why Russia said they support HIS campaign. He can try to deflect (just like his supporters) all he wants, but he cant change what is in those emails.

a reply to: jjkenobi

Who says false pretenses?

Junior?

Lies like he was taught by his father.

Why were Russian agents discussing trump associates in correspondence way back in May of 2015? As discovered by intelligence agents who were listening at the time. So much that it raised a red flag . Before trump announced his candidacy.

In May of 2016 foreign intelligence agencies in europe reported that it appeared that funds were being funneled out of Russia into the presidential campaign fund.
Why are so many of the special prosecutors brought on by Rob Mueller experts in international money laundering schemes? Coincidence?? I think not.
A month after that this meeting, where no one seems surprised about the Russian government and discuss it like it's a common theme. Part of the attempt to help trump doesn't get a "what were the other parts" or seem to be a big deal. Here's something we really all know. Trump has many business partners in Russia. Lots of wealthy contacts and associates. Russia was a source of revenue.

Within hours of the receipt of this email trump was announcing a big speech he was planning about Hillary.
Of course he didn't deliver.

Fast forward to two weeks ago when it was revealed that an american claiming association with the trump campaign was actively soliciting for dirt on the Clinton's from Russian sources. These claims have not been disputed by the president or his administration.

a reply to: Martin75

What scandal is this? The lady is a lawyer and was hired to defend a client who spoke Russian in a us federal court.
Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill and see the bigger picture.
This lawyers visa is not it.

You post this on the FIRST page of the thread...

You can't start with speculation , call it fact and draw a logical conclusion. It can't be done.

Then on the next page you do exactly that....

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jjkenobi

Who says false pretenses?

Junior?

Lies like he was taught by his father.

Why were Russian agents discussing trump associates in correspondence way back in May of 2015? As discovered by intelligence agents who were listening at the time. So much that it raised a red flag . Before trump announced his candidacy.

In May of 2016 foreign intelligence agencies in europe reported that it appeared that funds were being funneled out of Russia into the presidential campaign fund.
Why are so many of the special prosecutors brought on by Rob Mueller experts in international money laundering schemes? Coincidence?? I think not.
A month after that this meeting, where no one seems surprised about the Russian government and discuss it like it's a common theme. Part of the attempt to help trump doesn't get a "what were the other parts" or seem to be a big deal. Here's something we really all know. Trump has many business partners in Russia. Lots of wealthy contacts and associates. Russia was a source of revenue.

Within hours of the receipt of this email trump was announcing a big speech he was planning about Hillary.
Of course he didn't deliver.

Fast forward to two weeks ago when it was revealed that an american claiming association with the trump campaign was actively soliciting for dirt on the Clinton's from Russian sources. These claims have not been disputed by the president or his administration.

So you can speculate but no one else???
wow

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Your hyperbole of nonsensical or brain dead over the top claims are just that. Hyperbole. Meaningless exaggeration of adjectives designed to marginalize the story.

Make up all the names you can to try and trivialize the seriousness of this revelation but it's not going to change the seriousness of the situation.

The fact that anyone can consider Trump, his administration, or his family as "anti-establishment," just boggles my noggin'.

a reply to: Nikola014

Oh come on now.
I know this is hard. I also know Russians are great at denial of guilt. They lie as easily as birds sing. Putin, this lawyer any Russian you ask about this... what ? Us ? Ve know nosing. Ve are innocent...
Have you seen moose or squirrel?

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: jtma508
'To Catch A Predator' routinely cooks-up all manner of phony stuff to convince some middle aged guy that if he shows-up at such-and-such address he can fool around with an underage kid. The guy shows-up, doesn't do anything, but gets arrested. Why? Because he showed INTENT to commit a crime.

Colluding with an agent of a foreign government is a crime. Donnie Jr. clearly showed he was giddily interested and he showed-up to commit the act. Whether he was setup, duped, or whatever is immaterial. He was ready, willing, and able to collude with an agent of a foreign government. Spin it however you like but that is what happened. He's either incredibly stupid or a biglie security risk.

And that's it. That's all you got. A meeting under false pretenses. Feel free to charge Trump Jr. with something, let the courts play it out, and then move on.

Trump is still Pres, Russia didn't vote him in.

What part of it shows intent, do you not get?? So a women hires a hitman, who happens to be an undercover cop? They get PRISON time!!! Even though its a complete set up.....Intent......Jr, may not have colluded in THIS instance , but boy he was more than willing, for all we know there are more instances, I would not be surprised one bit!!....There is just no getting around this email chain. Try all you would like......again, if this were Obama, you would be calling for his head!

a reply to: JDmOKI

Yeah I think Russia made people vote for trump by publishing bull # lies about Hillary all summer. They sure did make people vote for trump.
Don't give me that crap.

a reply to: Sillyolme

I see you're playing catch up.

The meeting was a fake, setup by a 3rd party Rob Goldstone and FusionGPS, a Democrat funded org. He sent a phishing E-mail to Trump Jr, who took the bait. He sent a phishing E-mail to the lawyer, who took the bait. They met and nothing happened because it was a setup.

Sure sounds like a big crime to me.

a reply to: JDmOKI

Right and the very first thing they do is start claiming it's nothing. A nothing burger and even if it's something...it's still nothing.

originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: JinMI

Josh Douglas at the University of Kentucky Law School offered two other possible relevant statutes.

"Collusion in a federal election with a foreign entity could potentially fall under other crimes, such as against public corruption," Douglas said. "There's also a general anti-coercion federal election law."

In sum, legal experts mentioned four criminal laws that might have been broken. The key is not whether those statutes use the word collusion, but whether the activities of the Russians and Trump associates went beyond permissible acts.

It sounds like a lot of Law professors (as well as a lot of other people) are looking for a crime to justify the investigation. Rather than using an investigation to prove or disprove a crime.

That seems backwards to me.

a reply to: kurthall

Or the fact that he knew all along that Russia was helping him.
Now another investigation is looking into the digital data of the social media attack to see if any American sources helped them target specific areas and people.
And Kushner name is coming up in that.
But oh nothing to see here.
That's why the WH is in a panic right now because this is nothing.

a reply to: Sillyolme

What lies?

Pay to play? Public and private face? Deleting her emails? Destroying her computer with a hammer? Responsibility for Benghazi? Defending and freeing a child rapist? Destabilization of Libya and the Middle East? The list goes on, and on, and on, and on...

What is not true from this list?

a reply to: shooterbrody

None of that is speculation honey. It's solid reporting.

www.wsj.com...

assets.msnbc.com...

www.msnbc.com...

a reply to: Nikola014

Has nothing to do with this and why isn't she in jail if any of that's true? Oh yeah...they never found any criminal activity.
Stop deflecting. The story is trump Russia collusion. Teaming up to attack his opponent and boost support for Putin's chosen candidate.