2 Movies and 8 (prescription) Drugs you need

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: MaestroMind

Are you saying that big pharma needs millions of people on a $30,000 treatment to turn a profit?

They want and maybe induce many people to use it, but they seem very profitable as is.

No I am not. I am saying Big Pharma has a sales quota like any other for-profit business. This quota is based upon servicing the latest and most prolific illnesses in today's society. Numbers DO count! Always have! and always will!

Also, you know the U.S. isn't Big Pharma's only geographic market, right? It may be one of their most profitable, but not their only one.

I had a friend living in Indiana. She was obese... morbidly. Had every known disease in the world because of it... heart issues, digestive problems, diabetes, etc. So she met a guy in England. Fell in love... moved. She is now a healthy thin person without ANY health problems after living over there for 1 yr. So... yah I'll take socialized health care over this capatalistic vulture society any day.

originally posted by: olaru12
this Is America goddamn it. Health care like everything else in this country is based on capitalism, free enterprise and profit.

You wan socialism move to Canada or some other hell hole like Sweden.

Ya, I guess I agree with you. Who cares if we are #1 in cost and #37 in health outcomes. We're #1 we're #1.

a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

To be fair, was it the love that "worked" off the weight or was it the medical system. I imagine that alot of the health problems evaporated when the weight did.

originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
I had a friend living in Indiana. She was obese... morbidly. Had every known disease in the world because of it... heart issues, digestive problems, diabetes, etc. So she met a guy in England. Fell in love... moved. She is now a healthy thin person without ANY health problems after living over there for 1 yr. So... yah I'll take socialized health care over this capatalistic vulture society any day.

Moving to England makes fat, unhealthy people thin and healthy in one year?
They need a commercial advertising that.
You could have your own fat statue of liberty.

Give me your tired, your unhealthy, your chubby masses yearning to be fat free...

originally posted by: c2oden

originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
I had a friend living in Indiana. She was obese... morbidly. Had every known disease in the world because of it... heart issues, digestive problems, diabetes, etc. So she met a guy in England. Fell in love... moved. She is now a healthy thin person without ANY health problems after living over there for 1 yr. So... yah I'll take socialized health care over this capatalistic vulture society any day.

Moving to England makes fat, unhealthy people thin and healthy in one year?
They need a commercial advertising that.
You could have your own fat statue of liberty.

Give me your tired, your unhealthy, your chubby masses yearning to be fat free...

T'Hell with that statue, put it in a vial and charge $16,000 per month.

I just can't see spending almost $100 USD per month for cable because 50% or more of what I am watching are ads. So, I don't watch public television anymore.

One minute their may be an ad against evil tobacco and the next ad will be about an expensive drug with 100 side effects with one side effect stating, "May cause death".

Doctors tend to push those drugs consistently for the kickbacks, health concerns seem to be secondary. I had elderly relatives that were taking over a dozen prescription drugs, daily, with some costing $1000 per pill. The side effects were horrible but they were told the pills would prolong life. Ridiculous, but if the insurance pays for it, it doesn't matter to them.

a reply to: eManym

I am from the UK, I spent a month in vegas this year and was surprised by the amount of ads for attorneys and medications, in the UK we don't have medication ads except for maybe paracetamol or diarrhoea treatments, and the only ads for lawyer firms are for ppi and accident claims but the ads are not every 5 minutes.

a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

While I have the opposite story.

I lived overseas for 20 years and never suffered an illness (besides a sore tooth) but once in all that time.

I never weighed over 120 lbs of pure muscle and grit even soaking wet.

I was happy, healthy, loved my life, ate all the food I grew and meat I raised and butchered.

I was on NO meds.

I came back to the States.

My cortisol level is sky high. I’m obese (for me) in a matter of a few months and I eat almost NOTHING. ‘They’ (the doc’s) put me on 7 different meds after multiple tests and I’m still unable to sleep, eat, keep food down, or loose weight.

I stopped ALL the meds.

I’m growing my own food now.

I’ll give you an update when I KNOW I will be better.


This was me THEN.

I wouldn't dare to put up what I look like now.

And yeah, all my doc’s and meds are paid for.

Freaky Big Pharma and Doc’s with their heads up their checkbooks.

This place makes me sick... True story that.

originally posted by: MaestroMind
a reply to: seasonal

Like hell they don't! I have immediate family members who are practicing physicians who tell me how the Big Pharma game operates.

Then why is the cost for many medications in America 2-3x the cost of the same medications in our neighbors to the North and South? It's not because they need millions of patients to make those profits. It's because profits and share holders are more important than the well being of patients.

a reply to: Jinn82

Also one thing I found amusing was that the medication ads had to list every possible side effect, for example a hayfever treatment may cause diarrhoea, breathing problems, cardiac arrest, or even death why would you want to take that medication.

a reply to: peter vlar

Michael Moore did a documentary on this where he took firefighters who where involved in the 9/11 attacks who now suffer with illnesses to Cuba for treatment, some of the medications in Cuba cost only a few dollars, he also goes to the UK in the documentary and is surprised by the NHS free treatment, he even finds out that you can get a taxi from hospital after being treated and the government will pay the cost

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: MaestroMind
a reply to: seasonal

Like hell they don't! I have immediate family members who are practicing physicians who tell me how the Big Pharma game operates.

Then why is the cost for many medications in America 2-3x the cost of the same medications in our neighbors to the North and South? It's not because they need millions of patients to make those profits. It's because profits and share holders are more important than the well being of patients.

For profit medical system and affordable can not exist in the same system. The US medical system will collapse.

a reply to: Jinn82

That's socialism and you are pure evil for even considering a different form of medical than the for profit red white and blue capitalistic one. So what if there are far better systems that do it much better and a a much better cost./sarc

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: olaru12

Until someone has the nuts to clip the medical establishments wings, we are in serious peril. This literally could bankrupt the country.

The evidence is all around us in other countries that do medical much better and way more affordable.

Regular everyday humans must approach the leaders with a confidence a mile wide, and suggest it, HEAVILY to them.

I'll agree with medicines being overpriced, the pharmaceutical companies can charge so much because they are taking advantage of the fact that these people are sick and dying.

a reply to: seasonal

This sort of BS is why prescription medicine ads should be illegal on television!! The big pharma companies are in it for the money, not for anyone's health. Half or better of the stuff they push causes more, and worse, problems than it supposedly fixes, too.

a reply to: peter vlar

It's also demand.

The pharmaceutical companies push to the doctors. They push to the patients. It creates a self-feeding loop.

originally posted by: [post=22452674]
Then why is the cost for many medications in America 2-3x the cost of the same medications in our neighbors to the North and South? It's not because they need millions of patients to make those profits. It's because profits and share holders are more important than the well being of patients.

Captain Obvious, is that you? Tell me something I don't know.

a reply to: darkbake

And how much are they spending for advertising on TV and for perks for docs writing scripts? We pay for that.