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They tell you what they want, show you what they want you to see But they don't let you know what's really going on Make it look like a lotta stealing going on Boy them cops is killas in my home Nigga shot dead in the middle of the street I ain't no thief, I'm just trying to eat Man # the police and President (Georgia) Bush So what happened to the levees, why wasn't they steady? Why wasn't they able to control this? I know some folk that live by the levee That keep on telling me they heard explosions Same # happened back in Hurricane Betsy 1965: I ain't too young to know this That was President Johnson but now it's (Georgia) Bush
The sound of the levy walls being overtopped, eroded and finally collapsing would sound like an explosion to any bystand
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: intrptr
The sound of the levy walls being overtopped, eroded and finally collapsing would sound like an explosion to any bystand
I have read accounts where people saw barges being slammed into the levees by wind and waves, making loud noises and hastening the failure of the levees.
originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: Azureblue
The reason I am seeking this lady's story is because a blogger has written an article about the effects and impacts of the storm. In the article they have included a couple and their photo who claimed to have seen an explosion at the wall at critical time during the storm.
This blogger has chosen not accept the "thousands-of-blacks-were-shot" claim so I would like to send her a copy of the post containing this lady's story.
Link
I would also like to get it for my own records, again.
thanks
originally posted by: Missmissie173
a reply to: Azureblue
I volunteered witha church here in Dallas to help the "refugees" - yes that is how the victims of Katrina were referred to. All of the Texas Metro areas (Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc...) had thousands of refugees to deal with in such a short amount of time, that it overwhelmed the Texas State Systems as well as Red Cross and Fema. It was chaos.
Most of the people I worked with, arrived with barely the clothes on their backs, and many came from the 9th Ward in NOLA. They had no money, no food, no shelter, no ID, medical issues and were for the most part in a state of shock and panic. We found them temp to long term housing and helped arrange with FEMA for the voucher cards that the government was issuing for emergency funds. Long story short, it was the most pathetic and heart wrenching thing I have ever been involved with.
I became close with one particular family - both parents had medical disabilities - and they had four small children. They came from a housing project in 9th Ward and neither adults had ever been outside of NOLA in their entire lives. They had chosen to remain until the "shooting" (their word) started on the 2nd night/3rd day after the storm. They were so afraid and scared for their lives they decided to try and make to some relatives elsewhere on higher ground outside the city.
They and some neighbors left the housing project and made it as far as the Super Dome where they heard you could get food. They got there and no food or water and horror stories around every corner - gangs running everything. Total chaos. I could barely listen to their experience without gagging. Conditions were so bad that they said they formed a small group that sheltered in a restroom to protect themselves from the "shooters" and the "patrolers" (sp?.)
They said many other people they knew that came from their housing project, "disappeared" within the Super Dome...the stories were so bad that after we found them long-term help, (it took about 6 months of desperate pleading and working through the system of bloated and uncaring government programs) that I closed my mind off to the whole incident and the stories I had heard. Your post OP has taken me back.
I have no doubt that the family we helped were suffering from PTSD (many refugees were being diagnosed with it and SSRIs and Xanax were being handed out left and right) or something similar, but they were petrified of the "shooters" and were afraid "they" were here in Dallas as well.
I have no idea who the "shooters" were or why, but these were good, honest people that didn't have a lying bone in their bodies. Something very sinister happened during Katrina and I can't believe I shoved all of this from my mind...got to think about this awhile. Sorry so long winded, but boy, you certainly brought up some stuff with the shooting scenario. Wow.
originally posted by: Aliensun
originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: Azureblue
The reason I am seeking this lady's story is because a blogger has written an article about the effects and impacts of the storm. In the article they have included a couple and their photo who claimed to have seen an explosion at the wall at critical time during the storm.
This blogger has chosen not accept the "thousands-of-blacks-were-shot" claim so I would like to send her a copy of the post containing this lady's story.
Link
I would also like to get it for my own records, again.
thanks
I seem to recall that a levee was breached with explosives because of a reason that was given for the act to protect some other area. So it may not have been a terrorist act as seemingly implied. As I also recall, the breach was detrimental to a black area versus saving another area. I could be totally wrong on this memory business.
originally posted by: intrptr
The gubment was responsible for the tragedy Katrina became, they spent less on maintaining the levies and emergency response apparatus in the poorer neighborhoods.
All they needed to become exposed was the perfect storm.
Instead of blaming them though, we're going to blame 'secret sniper' teams and explosive demolition of the walls themselves.
Lots of people got shot during Katrina, many more drowned. The sound of the levy walls being overtopped, eroded and finally collapsing would sound like an explosion to any bystanders.