THE TRIGGERING: Donald Trump Jr Destroys the "Russian Narrative" Narrative, Triggers Trumpkins

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: RazorV66

Oh we have to get all insulty about her appearance?

Not like trump is winning any beauty contests so kind of not relevant at all.

What?

a reply to: RickyD
Quite right, nothing exchanged, one tousand stars for you
a clap on the back and a medal on the chest !

Intention doesn't count ?

Gleefull intention doesn't count towards ...
collusion, usurpation, treason
(fill in the blank)

Trump the Younger admits to it
re-read his e-mail exchanges

Trump liker or hater removed
The exchanges are pretty damning as an admission

Supoena Trump's server to be open and honest
that's what i say

Put it all to bed

a reply to: Perfectenemy

For what?

Dont make me laugh.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Perfectenemy

That doesn't mean anything. It's a post disclaimer that won't help and kind of adds fuel to this out of control fire.
The emails explained exactly who this information was coming from and what their expectation was in taking it.
Love it...
Especially later in the summer...

This statement sounds like a lame attempt to say "nothing to see here" when indeed there is something to see.
Couple this with the Times revelation last week of the man claiming to work for Mike Flynn and higher ups in the campaign who was actively seeking those emails trump asked the Russians to supply. Mr. Peter Smith.
Unfortunately for them Hillary actually wasn't ever hacked and no one has her emails but I digress. He claimed in several instances not only to the Times but to other people that he worked for them.
Mike Flynn has yet to dispute the man's claims and the guy is dead. So Flynn knows something and indeed has a story to tell to use his own words and this man's story is in fact true or he would have disputed it already.
Yes there's an element of speculation there maybe Flynn will eventually dispute the story. I'm thinking he's afraid he will purger himself if he makes a claim not knowing what proof may be out there.

Then there are some money issues that seem questionable in context with the true narrative. Like an unimproved property know to have issues would be worth twice as much two years after it was purchased.

And the constant lies about contacts that keeps changing and being added to.
But maybe it's just me.
LOL

Likely just you since you seem to have left out the Lynch/B. Clinton summit, the Lynch “don’t call it an investigation”, etc., etc., etc. BTW, only POTUS can’t be tried while in office. If there was ANY actual evidence, don’t you think there might be some indictments/arrests by now?

a reply to: UKTruth

That's so yesterday's company line....

The closest thing to "collusion" that actually exists as a crime is criminal conspiracy. But, there has to be an actual conspiracy. Conspiracy requires planning. The only plan seems to be one to set up Trump's son.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
You guys dont think lawyers didn't tell him to go ahead and release that, before he did? (i.e. Nothing Burger)

I need some of whatever ya'll smokin'!

The NYT had copies of the emails and had asked for comment before releasing them. He did it himself to get out ahead of their story and to take a stab at controlling the narrative.

Yesterday:

Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign

If the emails hadn't been released, it would be screeches "fake news" from the Trumpologists (and hell, some of them are screeching it anyway). Once more the media has been right, exposed the lying of a prominent figure in Team Trump and forced their hand.

Why do you keep trying to defend these lying scum? I don't get it. I can get hating Clinton — hate away, she's a power mad liar too — but why pretend that Donald Trump is anything but what he is? A lying, corrupt, globalist oligarch crony. What makes him worse imo (other than being an unhinged compulsive liar who can scarcely tell the truth) is that he has so many people snowed into believing he's somehow the exact opposite of what he is. They chant slogans designed to appeal to their delusions like "drain the swamp" even as he fills it right up with Goldman Sachs VIPs, billionaire buddies and all his other crony appointments.

They buy his bulls# about radical Islam as he's kissing Saudi rings. They argue that he's a non-interventionist as he pledges to feed the military industrial complex.

He's everything bad that anyone could say about Hillary Clinton but WORSE on every single count. Then there's the fact that he's a clownish, uncouth, ignorant, hatemongering con man who can't get through a sentence without a least one lie, randomly throws s#fits on Twitter and has no actual desire to do the job of being president.

But he says he wubs you biggly.

a reply to: theantediluvian
This is just my opinion but from my vantage point all the dino media have been pushing for the last year is how Russia used funding/memes/bots/RT/wikileaks/etc to influence the masses into voting for Trump. This seems to be all they have left because there is still to this day zero proof that voting machines were compromised.

If the Russians were so sure that their "brainwashing powers" would be so effective (despite the leftists media actually brainwashing people into loving Hillary... but I digress), then why oh why would they even attempt to provide dirt about the Clinton campaign directly to Trump's son of all people?

This was very clearly a set-up and because of this, I can't understand how anyone could believe the source is even legitimate in saying the Russian government supported Trump. This is probably the reason why Trump Jr decided to just release everything out in the open for clarity. There is too much fake garbage being produced that it's tough to know what is true and what is false. There are lies on both sides on an issue that seems irrelevant.

a reply to: birdonwire

Winning? you all just lost.

Satire:

Here you go.....yeah yeah...it's Fox News, what can I say?
I don't read from any hysterical Leftist so called "news" outlets.
But anyway, this is the most level headed explanation of this story by Gregg Jarrett I have seen yet.

Erasmus, the noted classical scholar, described lawyers this way: A most learned species of profoundly ignorant men. He had a point. How else do you explain the wild pronouncements of lawyers like Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, former White House ethics lawyer Richard Painter and Senator Tim Kaine, D-Virginia? Each have suggested Donald Trump Jr. committed treason by meeting with a Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya. All three lawyers earned their degrees at Harvard or Yale.
Yet, they appear to have slept through their class on constitutional law.

Now, amid the cacophony of claims that the Trump campaign committed the criminal offense of “collusion” with the Russians, no one has managed to point to a statute that makes colluding with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime.
Why? Because it cannot be found anywhere in America’s criminal codes.

There is one final law to be considered. Under the Federal Election Campaign Act, soliciting and/or receiving foreign donations is prohibited (11 CFR 110.20). This includes “money or other thing of value.” Is information, by itself, a “thing of value?”
One could attempt to make that argument, but it has never been interpreted that way. Moreover, campaign election laws are rarely the subject of criminal prosecutions. The vast majority of cases are civil violations resulting in fines. But again, both Trump Jr. and the Russian lawyer agree that no information related to the presidential campaign was conveyed.
If true, this statute is inapplicable.
As much as President Trump’s opponents may wish it to be, it is not a crime to meet with a Russian. Nor is it a crime to meet with a Russian lawyer or government official. Even gathering information from a foreign source is permissible. Unwise and ill-advised, yes. Illegal, no.

www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: birdonwire

He released it because there was no hiding it, not because he's honest. If he was honest, he wouldn't have been lying all the way up until he had no choice.

It's the same thing that happened with lying Mike Flynn who lied lied lied until he couldn't lie anymore and then the scumbag Commaderp-in-Chief let him resign and his trolls tried to spin it that he was taking "descisive action" but no, he was just backed into a corner with no more room for lying.

That's the truth.

a reply to: theantediluvian

That's your truth. Big difference.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

So you think If the reporter had never written the story Jnr would have released his emails?.
Mahahahaha If you do you're an idiot.
He got found out and like anyone knows it is always best to release your scandal then let another release it.

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: Perfectenemy

So you think If the reporter had never written the story Jnr would have released his emails?.
Mahahahaha If you do you're an idiot.

Sexton sat a year on this story and i wonder who told him to withhold the story for so long. Do you care about that at all?

All the better to come forward now with the truth
than to be squirmingly 'found out' later on
I'll give Trump the Younger credit for that at least

Never the less...
intention

a reply to: Perfectenemy

He was making sure it was all correct it can take many months to fact check and with a hurried story without all the facts you lot would just call it fake news.

a reply to: theantediluvian
Questions real journalists should be asking: What statute did Don Jr violate? What are the elements of the statute and what are the proven facts that satisfy those elements? How has the statute been applied in past cases, and are those past cases distinguishable from the current situation. It seems only Fox is doing this...


Until somebody somewhere provides sufficient answers to the above, this is a non-story. Most likely an attempt by the NYT to simultaneously re-inject life into the Russia hoax and divert attention from news concerning Comey's potential illegal activity.

a reply to: RazorV66

And from a legal standpoint this is the point I was trying to make by attempting to walk people through how to make a legal argument. There isn't anyway to make such an argument that a judge could take seriously...Well except maybe the 9th circus =P

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Nice attempt to shoot the messenger though.
Would you have preferred for the story to never exist? to not know about this? to continue walking around with Trump coloured glasses on (Brown btw) or do you want to get to the truth?.