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originally posted by: Willtell
First, the war on crime was started to curtail our rights.
Then the war on drugs was started to curtail more rights, like having as much money in the bank as you want without reporting it.
Then the war on terror to make things a living hell on earth was started to make the world a massive police state.
originally posted by: wantsome
I've been on both sides of the fence. When I did drugs I was pro legalization. It's been 20 years since I last did drugs. I've seen enough peoples lives damaged from drugs. The last thing we need in society is to condone drug use.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: wantsome
I've been on both sides of the fence. When I did drugs I was pro legalization. It's been 20 years since I last did drugs. I've seen enough peoples lives damaged from drugs. The last thing we need in society is to condone drug use.
Thing is, the main thing that makes hard drug use so dangerous is the culture of illegality that surrounds it.
People overdose on heroin because the dose isn't standardized. You don't know if you're doing too much until it's too late. Having a standardized version available to people would save countless lives. More than 100 years of preaching abstinence.
I see it as the people who want to get drugs, will eventually get them. And it's best we do the smart thing for the person and society.
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: underwerks
This issue is bigger than the drugs themselves. It's an economic issue that goes right up into the ATF, DEA, the FDA, possibly state level attorneys general, Border and Customs, not to mention the alcohol companies and tobacco companies.
You could probably connect the issue to the IRS without much of a stretch. These agencies, entities get their money based on drugs. There's private prisons filled with drug users and small time dealers. Almost every medium to large police force has a "narcotics" division.
In other words, it's not a situation that will go away without a major upheaval of many of the institutions that themselves are ingrained within other institutions.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: wantsome
I've been on both sides of the fence. When I did drugs I was pro legalization. It's been 20 years since I last did drugs. I've seen enough peoples lives damaged from drugs. The last thing we need in society is to condone drug use.
Thing is, the main thing that makes hard drug use so dangerous is the culture of illegality that surrounds it.
People overdose on heroin because the dose isn't standardized. You don't know if you're doing too much until it's too late. Having a standardized version available to people would save countless lives. More than 100 years of preaching abstinence.
I see it as the people who want to get drugs, will eventually get them. And it's best we do the smart thing for the person and society.
thats a great post and you make good points.
this war on drugs with all the crazy laws has been going on for a while now yet drugs are crazy easy to get.
it is not hard to score damn near anything
people are going to score their drug of choice no matter what.
i would think over the past 100 years that has been proven so instead of getting more strict with the laws that are not doing #, lets legalize some, loosen others, and regulate all for adults to make their own choices
adults that like altered states are going to find a way to get it. that will never be stopped
originally posted by: underwerks
Exactly. Drugs have always been there and always will be. If it could be legislated away, it would have been by now.