The Left hates Western Values I think that is obvious and Trump Triggers them all

Europeans are actually much closer to Donald Trump than what we are lead to believe. For instance, the Travel Ban from Trump is heavily supported by Europeans, in fact they are in favor of a total halt of Muslim immigration, not just from the dangerous countries. The Euro elites hate Trump, but the citizens they rule over don't uniformly share their opinion. Anti-Globalist is rapidly gaining strength in Europe, and there is no western leader who is more Anti-Globalist than Trump.

originally posted by: intrptr

Left, right, Us vs. them. Easy to trigger that stuff. Been conditioned to Us vs. them since we were little kids. Called 'Sports' where kids divide against each other in competition called a game with teams and little balls.

Yay, our side...

I dunno, the left is making a very good argument for "us vs them".

Pretty soon the "us vs them" thing is gonna be a simple cop out.

If trump is destroying western values ( as if one man had such power ) then I say
so what? Values change. Sometimes from one generation to the next. Change is the
natural state of human

Not everyone in this country share the same values. That is in fact one of the
things that makes america free.

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: carewemust
Leaders of the countries who relied on (leeched from) the USA got a good chuckle watching President Trump campaign. It was good entertainment for them.

They're not laughing now!

Great job Mr. President!

No. They still are. Because they aren't afraid to take on world issues while taking on their own domestic issues.
Closing your country in and barricading everyone else from entering it in this globalized world is not a smart move.
Think Roman empire.

lmao, sure. take on world issues? thats one way to put what theyre doing, i guess.

germany is not a blueprint lately, unless you want all of the world in chaos.

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Europeans are actually much closer to Donald Trump than what we are lead to believe. For instance, the Travel Ban from Trump is heavily supported by Europeans, in fact they are in favor of a total halt of Muslim immigration, not just from the dangerous countries. The Euro elites hate Trump, but the citizens they rule over don't uniformly share their opinion. Anti-Globalist is rapidly gaining strength in Europe, and there is no western leader who is more Anti-Globalist than Trump.

Trump is a globalist and has been for decades, most Europeans think he's an idiot, the rest think he's mentally ill.

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Europeans are actually much closer to Donald Trump than what we are lead to believe. For instance, the Travel Ban from Trump is heavily supported by Europeans, in fact they are in favor of a total halt of Muslim immigration, not just from the dangerous countries. The Euro elites hate Trump, but the citizens they rule over don't uniformly share their opinion. Anti-Globalist is rapidly gaining strength in Europe, and there is no western leader who is more Anti-Globalist than Trump.

lol, sad though.

When I first saw the title of this thread I thought "Why the sudden trend of people telling other people how they feel?"

There was some other thread where an OP said the Left is freaking out and 'their cities are burning to the ground'.

I don't see any evidence of the Left disintegrating; unless they're talking about marches - which seems like a level headed reaction..

So I ignored this thread all day - until there wasn't anything else on ATS to read..

Then I read a little of the OP and was struck by the grammar. Surely the OP understands no one can take her seriously when her thoughts are presented like that. In the past when I've seen that kind of grammar it's always trolls, the severely uneducated, or both.

Side note: From what I've experienced in the past that extreme lack of education in some folks is self-inflicted and intentional.

So I didn't bother to read the rest of the OP.

Then I read that the OP used a a few racial slurs (N word, Muzzies) in the OP - which solidified my opinion..

..This is a troll thread.

..Or the severely uneducated are imagining issues to be upset about so they can 'join in' the political debate that's consuming the rest of the thinking world.

Nothing was ever solved with the OPs stance - so this thread holds a negative value to me - and very likely had no substance to begin with (troll).

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: intrptr

Left, right, Us vs. them. Easy to trigger that stuff. Been conditioned to Us vs. them since we were little kids. Called 'Sports' where kids divide against each other in competition called a game with teams and little balls.

Yay, our side...

Now you're knocking sports? What a sad childhood you had.

I prefer to work together, remain united, practice pulling together, as opposed to dividing against one another, competing against one another, pulling apart.

Where does "sports" fit in again? Rivalry is a favorite american pastime, the other opiate of the masses.

Divide and conquer.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: intrptr

Left, right, Us vs. them. Easy to trigger that stuff. Been conditioned to Us vs. them since we were little kids. Called 'Sports' where kids divide against each other in competition called a game with teams and little balls.

Yay, our side...

I dunno, the left is making a very good argument for "us vs them".

Pretty soon the "us vs them" thing is gonna be a simple cop out.

When the war comes to my hood, I'll refuse to participate, 'play along', ("Cop out").

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Europeans are actually much closer to Donald Trump than what we are lead to believe. For instance, the Travel Ban from Trump is heavily supported by Europeans, in fact they are in favor of a total halt of Muslim immigration, not just from the dangerous countries. The Euro elites hate Trump, but the citizens they rule over don't uniformly share their opinion. Anti-Globalist is rapidly gaining strength in Europe, and there is no western leader who is more Anti-Globalist than Trump.

Most of us west/central Europeans hate your idiot president I can tell you that. Every anti - EU right wing populist politician your sad excuse of a president has given his support to has lost badly,latest in France where Marie Le Pen got knocked the f out by Macron. Yeah, that's how much Europeans love Trump. Don't be fooled by Trump's visit in Poland. Poland is something like the Bible belt in USA, full of Catholic Bible bashers who have tasted a bit of freedom after being a Russian dominated #hole for centuries. I can thank Trump for one thing though. Ever since Brexit and Trump the European Union has only become stronger. People have voted on pro EU politicians and icing on the cake will be Merkel's win in German elections in the fall.

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originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Europeans are actually much closer to Donald Trump than what we are lead to believe. For instance, the Travel Ban from Trump is heavily supported by Europeans, in fact they are in favor of a total halt of Muslim immigration, not just from the dangerous countries. The Euro elites hate Trump, but the citizens they rule over don't uniformly share their opinion. Anti-Globalist is rapidly gaining strength in Europe, and there is no western leader who is more Anti-Globalist than Trump.

Source??

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No, what Trump did is set forth a series of events that will play out badly for the USA. The saddest thing of all, is that as much as we would like to say we do not need the world, the world is quickly stating coming to the conclusion that it does not need the US.

Trump did not remove us from the New World Order, rather he did it to satisfy high powered people who bought and paid for him. He did not represent the people, rather he represents the very people he slandered during his political campaign. He sold a promise that he can not deliver on and will not even try.

Every other country has decided that Climate Change is a real factor in the world, that the environment is far more of a player, and has more of a far longer strategic interest. After all what would a country do if they could have a sustainable energy source to power their country and no longer rely on say fossil fuels, how much is that worth? And what if in the process they were to also figure out how to clean water and the air in the process. Now what can that country do and how far can they go?

Face it, the age of fossil fuels is coming to an end, we all have seen how bad it can be. Take a look at Beijing, or even Mumbai, where the cities are becoming toxic, and where natural resources, like clean air and water are rare.

Now you come to the economics. How long till countries look at products coming from the USA as being bad, and refuse to purchase, how long can the country exist without trade, what happens when we are in the middle of a recession or depression and the rest of the world is prosperous?

And as far as a New World Order, the only country left trying to do that and has the ground work for it, happens to be the United States of America. The country has 800 military bases in more than 70 countries around the world, on every continent, and twice that of any other country. And the US has been involved in more than its fair share of manipulating other countries elections, causing more problems in the long run than what it is worth.

Now if Trump was serious about removing the US from the New World Order, he would do things like close military bases around the world, and see about removing the US as the reserve currency and start working on doing things like say buying back part of the debt from other countries.

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