Ok Left Time to Put Up or Shut Up - Specifically Why Do You Hate Trump?

And look at the responses from the Trump supporters.

"They're mad bro! They're mad because Queen Hillary lost!"

SMH.

Nobody cares about Hillary Clinton more than Trump and his supporters. Why? Because he's not really up to being President which is why he's got his 30-something son-in-law in charge of... everything. What he wants to do is hold campaign rallies where his cult can shout "U-S-A" and make him feel special. He's not interested in running the country, he's primarily interested in running for re-election and so he needs Hillary Clinton to be his virtual "opponent."

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: rexsblues

People don’t believe Trump is sincere, and many of his policies are wack…
What’s your problem this is a democracy, we don’t have to like your hero when we believe he’s a zero.

That's the very deflection I was expecting, again be specific. Define sincere in contrast to the Bushes, Clintons or Obama. Which policies are 'wack'?

This is what we're talking about, we can't even have a rational debate, because you guy's still can't come back to reality from denial, instead you just keep farting out of your mouths.

Trump's not my hero, I didn't even vote, but in the face of this mass liberal incestuous psychosis, he his in fact becoming one.

I know what they REALLY hate....

I am a life-long conservative with certified conservative credentials, I don't like Trump because he is not a real conservative, is not honest, is not competent.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
And look at the responses from the Trump supporters.

"They're mad bro! They're mad because Queen Hillary lost!"

SMH.

Nobody cares about Hillary Clinton more than Trump and his supporters. Why? Because he's not really up to being President which is why he's got his 30-something son-in-law in charge of... everything. What he wants to do is hold campaign rallies where his cult can shout "U-S-A" and make him feel special. He's not interested in running the country, he's primarily interested in running for re-election and so he needs Hillary Clinton to be his virtual "opponent."

Funny....Trump is one man, yet the whole of the DNC can't seem to let go and work with him...

I bet he'd love nothing more than to run the country. Trouble is every single Dem doesn't seem to want to let him.

No virtual opponent is needed. I would bet my house he will win the next election if he runs. The country is tired of the liberal agenda and feeding the handouts and bowing to spending more on those that don't do their fair share.

Personally I'd rather our economy grow from big corporations and get paid more than getting equal pay and paying more in taxes than ever. And by paying more in taxes I do mean healthcare for others.

My family owns a small business and I have personally seen and felt the impact of the last 8 years. I have also seen the last 6 months and the increase in spending.

As a side note...nobody actually cares about Hillary Clinton. She's a "has been" that never "will be" again.

Truth is the Dems played their hand and it is completely backfiring on them and will for a very long time.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
I know what they REALLY hate....

originally posted by: Zaxxoncoinop
a reply to: theantediluvian

Don't think HRC will try to make a run for POTUS in 2020?
Just curious....

She's tried twice and failed. Anyone running against her would point this out. She is best off running for some other lower level position but likely her ego will not let her.

My bet is in 12-16 years we will see Chelsea running for POTUS. If she wins then Marc will be the first FMOTUS....somehow it sounds like a dirty word to me....kind of like a meal between dinner and lunch being called "dunch".

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: rexsblues

I don't hate anyone, Trump is just Trump. A shady NYC real estate developer who made his fortune on lies and exaggerations. Who wrapped himself in the American flag and told everyone he's someone completely different than who he is, and people hated the other side so much, they actually believed him.

He also appointed Jeff Sessions to Attorney General, the biggest threat to civil liberties since Nixon. He also appointed Steve Bannon, a slimy propagandist who would make Senator Palpatine hiss from the side of his mouth, as one of his top advisors.

He lies to everyone's face, but no one cares because they're fed a steady diet of cherry picked examples of how bad the other side is. Never realizing they're just trading the lies of one media for the lies of another. He's made conservative intellectuals into sound bite trigger-word spewing robots, who have sacrificed independent thought in favor of outrage.

He's turned the presidency into a reality show the rest of the world is laughing at. He's shown he has no regard for the safety of our country as long as he benefits from what happens (zero concern about the hacking, which he now admits was a real thing).

Policy wise he always errs on the side of huge corporations who are the same ones who over the years bought out most of our government and made it as crappy as it is now. Making the rich richer and the poor poorer, all under the cover of dismantling what the "other side" did. And cackling idiots cheer him on for it, just because he's their guy.

I don't hate Trump, I just find it impossible to support him with open eyes.

There we go, finally a sane response....

Sessions is a little too old school, his position on maryjane is hilariously outdated, but too much progress has been made in that arena, people are just foolin themselves if they think he'll stop eventual legalization.

I don't knock you at all for being skeptic, but as for your perspective of distrust of this administration over all. I only suggest you apply the same insight to the Clintons and folks from the DNC who would've made up their administration. Trump and his guys may be a little slimy, but they're clean as whistle in comparison.

a reply to: rexsblues

Or better yet, who is even clean? They are all corrupt and dirty, and they are all playing the same game. That's why the "corrupt and lying" angle people take is in my opinion very short sighted. It's like complaining about the inevitable, which then makes it very "faux-outrage", because had anyone else won, the lies and corruption would still be here (oh and by the way, always HAS and always WILL) but I bet the tone would be mightily different.

a reply to: rexsblues

The Clintons aren't in government so I have no reason to care about what they may or may not be doing. They have no effect on anything.

Trump, on the other hand does.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: rexsblues

The Clintons aren't in government so I have no reason to care about what they may or may not be doing. They have no effect on anything.

Trump, on the other hand does.

You honestly think the Clintons have no effect on anything in the government? They, combined, have more time in it than Trump could have if he died at 100 years old as POTUS somehow securing every single election from now until then.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: rexsblues

The Clintons aren't in government so I have no reason to care about what they may or may not be doing. They have no effect on anything.

Trump, on the other hand does.

You honestly think the Clintons have no effect on anything in the government? They, combined, have more time in it than Trump could have if he died at 100 years old as POTUS somehow securing every single election from now until then.

Do you honestly think the Clintons have more power in government right now than Trump?

No one is responsible for Trumps faults other than Trump himself. I just hope he doesn't drag the rest of us down the drain as well.

a reply to: underwerks

The Clintons don't have any legitimate power, but they are fueling a rage, filling an angry void that is creating the baseball shooter and numerous other violent factions.

Honestly, the winners don't want to see blood in the streets. Because they won.

It's the losers that do. Retribution. Revenge. It's a strong motivator.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: rexsblues

The Clintons aren't in government so I have no reason to care about what they may or may not be doing. They have no effect on anything.

Trump, on the other hand does.

You honestly think the Clintons have no effect on anything in the government? They, combined, have more time in it than Trump could have if he died at 100 years old as POTUS somehow securing every single election from now until then.

Do you honestly think the Clintons have more power in government right now than Trump?

No one is responsible for Trumps faults other than Trump himself. I just hope he doesn't drag the rest of us down the drain as well.

More power, no. All of the Dems, yes. Hence why they have been unable to do anything against Trump and he has been trouncing every attempt at such.

Say what you will, but Trump has been well ahead of every single slander against him. All most idiots can see is the immediate news in front of them. But take a look back in the last 6 months at what the Dems have tried to say and do against him and let me know what has stuck.

Trump has been leaps and bounds ahead of the Democratic onslaught. Deny all you want, but let me know when ANY charges stick....if any charges are ever brought that is.

What faults do you speak of? Please link them here and cite the sources. I love this debate because it is easy to win.

The problem with the left is they have been fed a line since the debates and because their candidate lost and tried to keep up the "line", their voters do to....only to be left holding the bag and looking like fools.

So...when was the last time you have a quote from Hillary on Russia being the reason? When was the last story about Russia being the cause of election issues? How many times have the goal posts been moved?

What about the real, proven stories with Lynch meeting Bill on the tarmac and Comey being told to call the investigation a "matter", and what about Janet Napolitano and the millions she can't account for, and Sanders wife?

These are ALL people with many more years of political background than Trump could have for the rest of his days.

Nah....what you have with Trump is someone fed up with hypocrisy....sure he has made plenty...solely because of the laws passed by those before him, including the Clinton's....

As a small business owner, I have already felt the positive impact in the last 6 months. Argue all you want. Your argument can't beat my cold hard numbers and facts I crunch every week.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Where?

Where is it?

Show me where the Clintons are stirring up all this outrage and how it's their fault instead of Trumps own actions and statements.

Why do you think anyone cares the least bit about what the Clintons have to say about anything? The tiny bit of support Hillary had during her campaign run is even smaller now.

You don't have to hold the Clintons up as an example of anything to see Trump for what he is. It sounds more to me like everyone is just trying to rationalize a bad choice they made, in an election with two bad choices, instead of calling it what it is.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DBCowboy

Where?

Where is it?

Show me where the Clintons are stirring up all this outrage and how it's their fault instead of Trumps own actions and statements.

Why do you think anyone cares the least bit about what the Clintons have to say about anything? The tiny bit of support Hillary had during her campaign run is even smaller now.

You don't have to hold the Clintons up as an example of anything to see Trump for what he is. It sounds more to me like everyone is just trying to rationalize a bad choice they made, in an election with two bad choices, instead of calling it what it is.

It sounds like you're defending a rapist because a girl dressed too "pretty".

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DBCowboy

Where?

Where is it?

Show me where the Clintons are stirring up all this outrage and how it's their fault instead of Trumps own actions and statements.

Why do you think anyone cares the least bit about what the Clintons have to say about anything? The tiny bit of support Hillary had during her campaign run is even smaller now.

You don't have to hold the Clintons up as an example of anything to see Trump for what he is. It sounds more to me like everyone is just trying to rationalize a bad choice they made, in an election with two bad choices, instead of calling it what it is.

"Resistance and Persistence"

Oh...and "Activism" ....she says activism more times than I can count in this video.

But the constant "resistance" BS she spews at every speech she gives just lets you know what a schmuck she really is.

Please....watch the entire video and let me know if you still have all food in your stomach at the end of the propaganda. Take note of the exaggerated head movement and the obvious teleprompter this propaganda speech is written on.

One thing I can say in favor of Trump in the media regard....hes real. Let me know the last time Hillary showed up impromptu and said anything.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Everything, every ideal, every motivation, that you ascribe to Trump is an assumption. Based on what you've been told throughout this past election cycle.

Want to see what I see? Start back when Trump first entered the public sphere, his magazine interviews amd the interviews of himself at his own events, then go on through his shady business deals with mobsters and gasp! the Clintons.

Then read his books (which he didn't write), then read what the people who wrote his books wrote about writing his books, then go through all the shadiness surrounding his involvement in his beauty pagent run, and then all the shadiness surrounding his TV run. And I haven't even mentioned the shady real estate deals yet. And we aren't even at the election yet either.

Believe whatever you want. Trumps been the same Trump for decades. You're just buying into his marketing by thinking he isn't.