Who is the logical heir for the Democratic Party?

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: DJW001

Don't bet on that anytime soon and Seekers right, the demos platform IS based on Fear and Hate.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Lucidparadox

Let me give you an example of why I think the system worked our perfectly this time... and why I will fight till I am dead and buried to keep this system in place.

I grew up in a rural county in Florida, our water management district had the rules that only counties of a certain population density could vote.

Florida was in a 10 year long drought... the big population density city in our district was running out of water... so do they conserve water, apply restrictions do anything that might annoy their city.. .nope of course not, they voted to pull the water from our county. Lakes dried up.. wells went dry... ranches closed... orange groves died... we had huge problems all so the high population density city could water their lawns during a drought!

It took our county a solid 10 years of fighting in the court system to force them to stop... that was just in one small corner of the country.

After seeing that their is no way I will ever trust the big city areas to ever do a bloody thing other than vote in their own self interest...

That is why I feel the electoral college has been the best way to this point and will remain the best way going forward to give representation to everyone...

Please remember if Hillary runs a halfway decent campaign she wins in a walk... republicans have to be nearly perfect and have the demcorats screw the pooch to win the oval office.
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On topic... I would be thrilled to see a Tulsi/Rand ticket... I think it would make the fuzzy little heads of the establishment explode...quite possibly even more so than they have with trump.

First off, thank you for actually providing an argument that argues what I'm actually saying.

Secondly, thank you for providing a real life example.

Thirdly, I'm terribly sorry of your circumstances in that scenario. I.wish we had better water resource management overall to be honest.

Lastly, I will say that you and I are the perfect yin and yang and almost provide a perfect model and representation of what happened in the Election. No offense to you at all, as I understand we just have a difference in background and opinion.. but I totally feel and believe that the higher population density SHOULD have more say in your scenario. Simply due to scale of impact. Laws and regulations and resource implementations incovienienced you and your community.. that being said.. your community is a drop in the bucket compared to the more urban population.It makes more sense to inconvenience you and yours over that of the city as less people would be impacted.

The laws and regulations did not inconvenienceus it destroyed the agricultural industry there, it drained the wells dry for a lot of people, and had a hugely negative impact on the environment.

Instead of doing silly things like water conservation... or a desalination plant... or spread the pain around the water management district they went after the lowest population center and told us to roll over and take it.

I fully admit that the EC is far from perfect... and no I am not smart enough to tweak it I know that..

But you are ignoring the perfect storm that had to occur for Trump to get elected, hillary ignoring swing states, Comey and his shenanigans, the DNC screwing bernie,the dnc server hacks, the relentless assault on trump by the media, coupled with a rising tide of discontent among the red state folks.

With all that happening... he won by what 70k votes in the EC.. it seems to me like the system almost worked the way it was intended.

originally posted by: Mollybendus
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Obviously you are just against Muslims.
Is there an ignore button here? I don't want to hear opinions from alternative fact type people.

Exactly where did anything I say refer to Muslims?

a reply to: Lucidparadox

The reason why the system is set up the way it is is to prevent what you are suggesting - a tyranny of the majority.

Just because more people live in a place does mean that might always makes right, and necessarily, urban life necessitates a different lifestyle than less urban life. But that doesn't mean that one set of concerns is any more or less valid than the other. Nor does it mean that one group should completely dictate to the other, either.

Think about it.

SO many in the urban cores tend to think that we only need more mass transit and/or electric cars. They don't understand the realities of living in less populated areas where you actually do need that truck for practical reasons, and an electric car turns a day trip into a 3-day overnighter thanks solely to its 8 hour charge requirements. And mass transit?! Are you serious? That's for city folks. And a gun is a necessary tool of country life, not some kind of compensation for a small penis.

And no, the needs of many do not outweigh the needs of the few. That's socialism, especially when the few are sacrificed against their wishes and without any representation in the process which is what you seem to be advocating.

Who is the logical heir for the Democratic Party?

An obvious choice would be: The Best Man for the Job...

the Former First Lady would fill the role nicely..... Michelle the Democrat might want to use her birth Sur Name instead of the Obama last name however

a reply to: Irishhaf
Your either up North near Jacksonville or down south by Miami-Dade/Ft. Lauderdale. I know for a fact Hillsborough county manages its water quite well and frequently institutes drought control water restrictions whenever the rain is gone for a month or more. We also have de-Salination, so please don't lump my urban area with that #hole in the South. Pinnellas county also has their own de-salination. I cannot speak for the rest of the surrounding counties. But they are mostly rural anyways.

What I do know, is that I am not the biggest fan of our Senators and could care less to see any of them in the big house.
I really am A fan of Joni Ernst as a female Republican senator from Iowa, even though there are a couple of provisions from the 35 she proposed in the NDAA 2018 I do not agree with. However, she has really pulled through for the veterans and her people should do more to make people aware of what she has accomplished.

If it had to be a Dem though, for now I can get behind Tulsi Gabbard from Hawaii. Now if she starts spouting the usual Blue hate for the second amendment, there will be problems. Considering she is also a war veteran though, I cant imagine here going that route.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Nope grew up in Pasco County, my story is 30 years ago... Hillsborough was not the problem ... Pinellas county was the one that ran rough shod over Swiftmud.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

I would LOVE to just see a reset on our party paradigm!

And to start, we could utilize Jesse Ventura's idea of simply removing the letter next to everyone's name. That would vastly improve our political issues!

Ivanka Trump?