posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:20 AM
originally posted by: PsychicCroMag
If a treat is put under one of three cups and someone points to the cup which covers the
treat- a dog will go to the correct cup whereas the chimp will just pick a random cup. Dogs and humans have had a symbiotic relationship for thousands
of years. -There is a game on the web where you can compete with a chimp trying to remember the location and number of 10 randomly numbered squares
1-10, exposed for 1.0 sec. the chimp will clean your clock- It can remember all 10! Their short term memory is fab-long term not so
originally posted by: Bluntone22
Chimps have used sign language for years.
Good god dogs can communicate with humans.
Parsing the catalyst of what we see as intelligent behaviour by design as simply being a product of memory is very narrow-focused IMHO<
This guy points to the PERSON he wants to do the task...then points to the bag....he doesnt "pick" a drink or a banana he simply points genericlly to
the bag of goods asking for a handout......when he sees what is pulled out of the magic bag he immediatly gives yet another direction or teaches with
it being either "toss it over buddy" or scooting over for a drink.......this is not just memory...I have trained lots of animals domestic and
wild.....these are choices....lol...and working around primates has shown me that they can like or dislike you based on your own personality and
traits.....not simply your actions.....lol...and THEY are all individuals.....most arent motivated pioneers of advanced communication with
humans.....but some are motivated to be just that.
I have a Tabby that I got very young...weaned early....and once he left his litter he never heard another cats meow.....and I began teaching him to
respond to visual directions early avoiding verbal directions coming from me......together we found functional ways to communicate
non-verbally...both of us left our comfort zones and met in the middle....no meows with emotional inflections from him and no commands with voice and
emotional inflections from me.
When he was 2 years old I decided to introduce him to the bathtub.....lol...."waters"........and he shocked even me because the very first time and
EVERY time since he verbalised a cats best shot at saying "NO" which was one of the few verbals I had taught him since he was
small........clear....intentional.....proper inflection.....and exactly on cue when he new we were heading to the bath......lol....lol....he still
says no but his inflection is much different now because he likes the bath.
When I give my cat treats I take them in my hand and walk away from him....then I stop and stand...he comes from behind me and sits in front of me
with his back to me so he cannot see his treats or me........then once he is sitting properly and NOT looking I turn and hide his treats 6-7 feet
away and then return to him giving him one pet and saying good boy now you get treats....first I once glanced in a mirror I had moved and caught him
cheating by cranking his head around when I turned to go hide his treats then quickly returning to attention before I could see him... and then when
I continue the process he "pretends" he doesnt know where the treats are and I "point" to them so he can follow my lead right to them......but he
"pretends" he doesnt know where the treats are...he DOES NOT go directly to them based on memory or instinct or need....lol...he is busy "fooling
me"......lol....I have intentionally NEVER busted him peeking to see where I stash the treats and he ALWAYS pretends to let me point the treats out to
him as if he has no idea where they could be.
My cat is a trained home protection cat.....he alerts me by silently coming up and soft-pawing me to get me to follw him and he leads me to my door
when someone is approaching...his hearing is excellent......and he goes directly to my door where he sits at full attention.....silent and
reliable......I have a key word i taught him since he was a kitten while we played with one of his favorite toys......a toy I ALWAYS had on or near my
head and face.....I taught him to launch himself at my head and face fearlessly since he was a wee kitten......I taught him to associate a specific
"tailored word" with his most aggressive biting behaviour when he exhibited it....as soon as he got toothy[he was about to be put down by the Vet as a
newborn kitten as he was the last of the litter from a "biter" mother and he was also a little "biter" nobody wanted him so he was slated for
execution when I heard of his plight]...the thoughtful vets gave me his favorite toy when I picked him up....a RED SHOELACE[the idiots were nurturing
his biting knowing full well his mom was a natural biter-- jeepers-no wonder no one wanted to adopt him he was just like his mom moreso that the
rest]...so I can now give him 2 commands which will send him into attack mode with a headshot if I choose it.....he knows no fear of humans or
animals.....lol.....I didnt use verbals raising him.....lol.....I got him accustomed to not fearing sudden motions directed at him....until he could
not flinch and guage safe distances and his own reaction times....lol...he has no flinch reaction no fear reaction he simply backs up 3-4 feet looking
you in the eye and keeps out of your real range.....and if you yell at him.....lol...he doesnt flinch either.....because I conditioned him to not be
reactive to verbals but to instead be ACTIVE.....lol.....yelling at him aggessively is actually asking him to jump on your face........with
claws.....in a "playfull way"........I polarised his perceptions and reactions and encouraged him to be PROACTIVE.
He is a Tabby..only one I have
known....truculent....stubborn.....independant.....Kingly....bossy...pushy....rough...edgy....demanding.....lol....perfect.....and I used "hugs" or as
he knows it "tentions" to control and teach him......he is 16lbs and 8 years old and if he asks for treats or something like a bath or brush which I
do not wish to render to him on demand....lol....I simply aknowledge his request non-verbally so he knows he has my attention...and LOL.....I ask him
if HE WANTS "tentions" which are hugs and lap sitting which he has hated since kittenhood[he feels to controlled when you make him sit in your lap or
give him to much attention when he hasnt asked for it]...he will literally turn and hustle away and abandon his original request if I simply reach
out both arms towards him....LMAO.....he knows the verbal "tentions" and the arm stretching both equate to loving unwanted attention being slathered
One of my adult nephews doubted my claims he was a Watch/Attack Cat.....until I gave him a wee taste of the silent calf-attack from behind on
command...with an immediate retreat to my left side....for back-up......for the record his kitten playtime involved my head and legs and hands and
arms a LOT.....he doesnt fear being reached out to and he will use you foot and leg as a walkway to your head as he was taught if you try to kick him
or strike him.....lol....and yelling makes him want to rumble not run......lol.
When I worked at the Zoo I had friends and enemys...Monkeys which I went to war with who would throw feces and food at me...and Meercats who would
always greet me and show symbolic brotherhood ..lol.