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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: onehuman
The Apocalypse of St John predicted this 2000 years ago - that men would deny that Jesus was crucified for the sins of man.
and now here we are, 2000 years later - denying he was crucified (The Koran, among other historical texts, also refutes he died on the cross).
If I was a bookie, these would be very very slim odds.
VERY.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: rickymouse
Problem with your final thoughts about the difference between the Old Testament God and Jesus being different, not entirely
Jesus will return and destroy evil, just like God/He did in the Old Testament
Jesus never expected everyone to follow Him, hence why He addressed His message to His followers. Hence why He never wanted christianity to be part of the civil law.
I thought we just established that in our discussion Did you not read what we wrote, miss the whole lot altogether
What makes it so questionable is that the original letters and gospels were written and told directly after the death of Christ
Socrates said that the printing press and writing would make humanity dumb because they wouldn't have to remember history anymore Your point is reasonably valid but in the ancient and near meddle east, oral history was in fact the way history was passed on It's simple to say things were very different back before main stream media and tv and the Internet, it's true
Well isn't that funny, I noted I saw no reasoning in your comments and you did mine
you said something absurd What you think of Jesus is irrelevant, I made that clear.
Do you know common sense, do you think before speaking I am not being rude, just pointing out your endless silly comments, logic and lack of reasoning
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: LABTECH767
May God bless and love those who don't know who He and His son and Spirit are
Jesus taught His "followers" no anger, no judgement
Remember you will be judged by God with the same measure you judge others
originally posted by: Sheye
If someone invites you to a party where there will be drunkeness, nudity and sexual perversity does a Christian say " oh.. I better not judge them and attend that party ? No.. a wise Christian will judge the action and refuse to be a part of it, because it would displease Christ.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: ISeekTruth101
Because nobody cares about a book that stands on its own, historically it has no value to anyone but Muslims and Gnostics.
Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: -- KJV, Ecclesiastes 8:5
And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? -- KJV, John 9:2
Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. -- KJV, John 9:3
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: -- KJV, John 10:27
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Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. -- KJV, John 10:31
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. -- KJV, Jeremiah 31:33
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. -- KJV, Jeremiah 31:34
And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. -- KJV, Matthew 26:61
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years -- KJV, 2 Peter|3:8
 âThe Unknown Life of Jesus Christâ by NicolasNotovitch describes his finding a document on Issa at the Hemis Buddhist Monastery, which took place in 1886. He describes how he was there for several weeks after breaking his leg from a fall from his horse. After becoming acquainted with the monks, one showed him the document on the life of Issa, the name used in India for Jesus. He had the text translated, first into Russian, and then published his book in France in 1894. Though critics such as Max Muller and others attackedNotovitch to debunk his claims, Notovitch in turn said he talked in private to a Catholic priest at the Vatican who told him that the Vatican library had 63 documents of various oriental languages that referred to Jesus traveling in India. These had been brought to the Vatican by missionaries from India, China and Arabia.
Unfortunately, as is so often the case, the document at the Hemis Monastery seems to have since disappeared with present day monks knowing nothing about such a document. Some feel that certain Christian missionaries or agents had gone there to deliberately confiscate it to prevent any such evidence from being available any longer.
The story of Jesusâ crucifixion is also interesting because, generally, most people die on the cross by starvation or suffocation when the ribs press down on the lungs so that the person can no longer breathe. This often takes several days. According to tradition, Jesus was nailed on the cross in the early afternoon of a Friday and taken down as dusk was approaching, after being nailed on the cross for only four or five hours. So it is most unusual that a young and healthy person like Jesus died after only four hours on the cross. Thus, it is more likely that as a yogi he was able to enter an altered state and appear as if dead, only to be revived later. This is not uncommon with some yogis in India. Furthermore, there are modern commemorations of Jesusâ crucifixion wherein people are crucified every year in the Philippines and Mexico and survive quite easily. A person does not die of crucifixion after only four hours. Thus, it is quite likely that he survived the crucifixion and died elsewhere.Â
originally posted by: onehuman
The Bible, which is now being kept in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara, contains the Gospel of Barnabas â one of the forgotten disciples of Christ. The Gospel says the Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the literal son of God â but was actually a Prophet.
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: LABTECH767
May God bless and love those who don't know who He and His son and Spirit are
Jesus taught His "followers" no anger, no judgement
Remember you will be judged by God with the same measure you judge others
Jesus taught us not to be hypocrites in judgement... but we are not to partake in the follies of sin with others.
You have to have some judgement to be able to disassociate with those in serious sin.
If someone invites you to a party where there will be drunkeness, nudity and sexual perversity does a Christian say " oh.. I better not judge them and attend that party ? No.. a wise Christian will judge the action and refuse to be a part of it, because it would displease Christ.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Sheye
You are both right, I was very wrong to get angry and my words were totally un Christian so thank you both for correcting me Sheye and Raggedyman.