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BREAKING: Democrats Raid The Senate Floor To Stop GOP And Save Healthcare For 23 Million

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posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: onehuman

You're f***king kidding me, right?

Saving us?

Assholes created the monster that is the ACA in the first place.

Cut the infection out.

23 million people can lose insurance for a few months... Lord knows that many times that got royally screwed for years because of this monster, self included.


Of that how many will die? Being cut off insurance for three months could mean a life or death situation for some.


Well I am sure that all of the rich people that scream how healthcare is life and death (like Bernie sanders) can sell some of their excess mansions and jets and pony up for these people for a couple of months.

They seem awfully generous with other peoples money.


ObamaCare was originally RomneyCare. You won't see ANY politicians fitting the bill.


This is a lie.

Romneycare was a state plan that relied on a massive expansion of Medicaid to pick up the slack for children, parents, pregnant women, and the long-term unemployed.

Take away that Medicaid expansion and Romneycare is just as big of a failure as Obamacare.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

That's obvious.

It became clear when, instead of getting rid of Obamacare, they just want to replace it with their own version of Obamacare.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Kettu
You know, if this GOP healthcare thing is going to be so, so great ... with so much "winning" and a "yuge" deal ...

You'd think they'd at least have some conversations on it, debate it or something.

The fact is...they went back and forth about the ACA for months and months. This nonsense?

All done in secret.

Generally deals and plans drawn up in secret are done so for a reason, and it's usually not because its full of fun surprises for the American public.


The ACA was drawn up in secret and passed without anyone reading it...


That's a bald-faced lie. The fact you got two stars so quick just shows how blind the partisanship here is.

The ACA took over a year and had all kinds of discussions, committee meetings and amendments. Hell, the Democrats allowed the Republicans to make over 100 amendments to the ACA.

Keep looking, because the truth is out there....



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

This is not about solving anything.

This is about keeping the literal truck loads of money flowing into the medical monopolies.

The R's and D's are not going to do what is right. It will take a revolutionary war to get this solved.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

Continue on with the deaths then? Because the Dems did it and caused it after all, right?
This is slow kill and culling of the population in all it's glory that people mention as a conspiracy. Conspiracy it is not.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

No they wanted to stall. They have no plan. They are complete and total failures. At least O had the balls to have a plan, keep in mind the R's and D's both came up with the ACA.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Kettu
You know, if this GOP healthcare thing is going to be so, so great ... with so much "winning" and a "yuge" deal ...

You'd think they'd at least have some conversations on it, debate it or something.

The fact is...they went back and forth about the ACA for months and months. This nonsense?

All done in secret.

Generally deals and plans drawn up in secret are done so for a reason, and it's usually not because its full of fun surprises for the American public.


The ACA was drawn up in secret and passed without anyone reading it...


That's because the damn thing STARTED at 1,900 pages. Was 2,700 pages when passed. It's now grown to a 20,000+ page monstrosity of rules and regulations.

Here's a photo of the actual legislation, sitting in a room: townhall.com...

Nancy Pelosi lost lots of brain cells just contemplating reading the ACA.


edit on 6/19/2017 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Obama wanted a train wreck so Hillary could save us with single-payer socialized medicine.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

If this isn't solved it will collapse. And it matters not if there is a R or a D next to anyone's hero political party.

This will collapse when the average person says F it I can't afford a home and healthcare.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

was Hillary wrong?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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Obamacare would have never passed if GOP had majority in the Senate and the House like what they did to Bill Clinton's health reform.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: onehuman

You're f***king kidding me, right?

Saving us?

Assholes created the monster that is the ACA in the first place.

Cut the infection out.

23 million people can lose insurance for a few months... Lord knows that many times that got royally screwed for years because of this monster, self included.


Of that how many will die? Being cut off insurance for three months could mean a life or death situation for some.


Well I am sure that all of the rich people that scream how healthcare is life and death (like Bernie sanders) can sell some of their excess mansions and jets and pony up for these people for a couple of months.

They seem awfully generous with other peoples money.


ObamaCare was originally RomneyCare. You won't see ANY politicians fitting the bill.


This is a lie.

Romneycare was a state plan that relied on a massive expansion of Medicaid to pick up the slack for children, parents, pregnant women, and the long-term unemployed.

Take away that Medicaid expansion and Romneycare is just as big of a failure as Obamacare.


Romney: Without Romneycare, no Obamacare

Guess he lied about his Care huh?



“Without Tom pushing it, I don’t think we would have had Romneycare,” said Romney, who helped Stemberg open the first Staples store in the 1980s with the backing of Bain Capital. “Without Romneycare, I don’t think we would have Obamacare. So, without Tom a lot of people wouldn’t have health insurance.”

Source



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: seasonal

Obama wanted a train wreck so Hillary could save us with single-payer socialized medicine.


I want to know what insurance YOU have, because you must get awesome prescription coverage! Dude, you need to share with the rest of us!



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: SBMcG

This is not about solving anything.

This is about keeping the literal truck loads of money flowing into the medical monopolies.

The R's and D's are not going to do what is right. It will take a revolutionary war to get this solved.


What do you suggest?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DBCowboy

was Hillary wrong?


Not really. Since we'll end up with another entitlement program that'll cost taxpayers billions.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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This foolishness is exactly why the Democrats keep losing seats and votes.
When will they ever learn?



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Got news for you. Nothing will ever pass that is going to reduce the money the medical community has gotten used to.


The only way it will change is when it collapses or when we the people take it back.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: deadlyhope
a reply to: onehuman

You're f***king kidding me, right?

Saving us?

Assholes created the monster that is the ACA in the first place.

Cut the infection out.

23 million people can lose insurance for a few months... Lord knows that many times that got royally screwed for years because of this monster, self included.


Of that how many will die? Being cut off insurance for three months could mean a life or death situation for some.


Well I am sure that all of the rich people that scream how healthcare is life and death (like Bernie sanders) can sell some of their excess mansions and jets and pony up for these people for a couple of months.

They seem awfully generous with other peoples money.


ObamaCare was originally RomneyCare. You won't see ANY politicians fitting the bill.


This is a lie.

Romneycare was a state plan that relied on a massive expansion of Medicaid to pick up the slack for children, parents, pregnant women, and the long-term unemployed.

Take away that Medicaid expansion and Romneycare is just as big of a failure as Obamacare.


Romney: Without Romneycare, no Obamacare

Guess he lied about his Care huh?



“Without Tom pushing it, I don’t think we would have had Romneycare,” said Romney, who helped Stemberg open the first Staples store in the 1980s with the backing of Bain Capital. “Without Romneycare, I don’t think we would have Obamacare. So, without Tom a lot of people wouldn’t have health insurance.”

Source


Facts are facts. Romneycare does not work like Obamacare.

Again, without the massive Federal subsidy pumping up MA's Medicaid system, Romneycare, like Obamacare now, would collapse.

Medicaid makes Romneycare work. It's as simple as that.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Obamacare won't collapse if they keep piling up debt to support it. Debt 20 trillion.



posted on Jun, 19 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
*yawn*

This is quite the wine party!

The ACA took almost a year of constant back and forth, and even then the GOP/conservatives bitched about it being "rammed through"

Hell, the Democrats even let Republicans make over 100 amendments to the ACA.

...and most of those amendments to the ACA that the Republicans put there are the very one's they ended up hyperventilating about.

And they're going to ram this thing through without hearings, committee votes, or Democratic input/support in secret? What do they expect the Democrats to do?

Kneel before them or something?


They will have cheese with their whine, you can't have these politicians not being able to afford their new yacht or plane now.




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