The Only Cut in Trump's Budget is to Medicare. Why?

a reply to: D8Tee

So they're profiting?

a reply to: Dfairlite

GUIDANCE NEEDED. I look at the tables of projections in the Budget at your link: assets.documentcloud.org... , but can't find where MEDICARE expenditure is being decreased.

Can someone point me to the correct table in that White House budget document please? Thanks in advance.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: D8Tee

So they're profiting?

They're doing well for themselves, sure. My doctor drives a Lexus. Socialized medicine certainly doesn't mean anyone works for free. What are you getting at?

a reply to: jimmyx

LOL, there was absolutely zero critical thinking in JC's post. But you wouldn't recognize that because it confirms your biases.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Dfairlite

GUIDANCE NEEDED. I look at the tables of projections in the Budget at your link: assets.documentcloud.org... , but can't find where MEDICARE expenditure is being decreased.

Can someone point me to the correct table in that White House budget document please? Thanks in advance.

psssst...

it might not really be there

all hush hush

a reply to: carewemust

Page 29, 2017 budget for medicare is $593B the 2018 budget is $582B

a reply to: xuenchen

It is.

a reply to: D8Tee

The contention was that for-profit healthcare couldn't work. I was simply pointing out the idiocy of such a statement.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Dfairlite

GUIDANCE NEEDED. I look at the tables of projections in the Budget at your link: assets.documentcloud.org... , but can't find where MEDICARE expenditure is being decreased.

Can someone point me to the correct table in that White House budget document please? Thanks in advance.

psssst...

it might not really be there

all hush hush

You mean just like those COMEY memos? I don't believe it! DFairLite doesn't start threads based on FAKE news.

a reply to: carewemust

Did you find it? Page 29. 2017 vs 2018 Medicare outlays.

a reply to: Dfairlite

The contention was that for-profit healthcare couldn't work. I was simply pointing out the idiocy of such a statement.

Just because the doctors and hospital staff are paid does not make it a for profit system. There are many nations that have socialized health care and it works just fine. You pay more in taxes of course, but no one is left behind.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: carewemust

Page 29, 2017 budget for medicare is $593B the 2018 budget is $582B

THANKYOU for pointing out that 1 year dip in the year-after-year increases in Medicare spending.

However, it's very minimal in comparison to how the Obama Administration set up OBAMACARE to suck money out of MEDICARE via a BACK CHANNEL. That is, whatever you see in the budget for Medicare in any given year, along comes ACA/Obamacare to leech/siphon funds from the Medicare trust fund AFTER the budget is passed.

It started in 2013, and amounts to $80 BILLION DOLLARS a year being siphoned away, to cover the ObamaCare PONZI scheme.
OBAMACARE ROBS MEDICARE EVERY YEAR.. BY DESIGN: dailysignal.com...

Look !! -- 81% of the Hospitals are "Public"

Hmmm

a reply to: carewemust

Yep, as pelosi said: "We robbed medicare of half a trillion dollars to fund obamacare" (not an exact quote, but close enough) here's the video:
video.cnbc.com...

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Willtell

Actually, I think the best solution is to come up with a cutoff age (say 40 as of this year, which would exclude myeslf from coverage!) and everyone keeps paying in until the program is phased out. If you're under 40 now you're on your own for coverage. But then we need to rename the tax so moron leftists don't try to do the same thing again. We can call it the failed socialist program tax.

That will just kill about 2 million people, not bad, it could be worst...

a reply to: Willtell

I love the death count predictions. It's a typical liberal argument. Absolutely no basis in reality, but it gets the reaction you want from the uninformed "that's terrible, omg, we can't do that!"

Curious, how many people have died because obamacare stole half a trillion dollars from medicare?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: uncommitted


Which cuts are cuts, and which cuts are decreasing the rate of increase of a particular program. So many ways to spin budget items.

Take Obama's first budget for example. Fangs were out over it, just like they are now over Trump's 2018 proposals.
www.politifact.com...

Cuts to the departments I listed are cuts based on previous spend. Why are you making this about Obama? The only thing that has received any cut according to the OP is medicare. That is incorrect.

You are correct. Medicare Disability was cut (big thread on that last week) and so are many other programs.

No matter who the President is, the losing party complains. That's why I referenced Obama's budget. Republicans hated it. AS EXPECTED, the reverse is true today.

Even though Trump's tax cuts are GOOD for everyone, Liberals will most likely not accept them. Not my President = Not my Tax Cuts. I wonder if the IRS can carve-out liberals to keep them at the same tax rate where we are today?

How do you know all the cuts are good for everyone? A few hours ago you were suggesting they were 'Fake News'. It appears that your anti globalist president is cutting the budget of every department apart from the ones who go to other countries and kill people - and that's anti globalist?

Medicaid.

The top money making treatment centers under medicaid are drug treatment hospitals.

Most drug addicts get treatment under medicaid paid for by taxpayers.

These drug treatment programs should BILL the treated drug addicts for the cost of there treatment or send them to JAIL.

i am a retired EMT and have seen the cost to taxpayers.
and the other cost in the cost of ambulance being sky high because of the fact that ambulance calls for illegal drug overdoses
are almost (99%) never paid for by the drug addicts and passed on to elderly patents with real health problems