One thing I like about Millennials

originally posted by: savagediver
a reply to: toysforadults
53 years old and thats what I make working 12 hour shifts 7 pm - 7am as a power plant operator. Have some good vacation days and maybe decent insurance. I have been working at this medical complex since 2001. I started out as a landscape tech ( picked up trash , mowed grass , weeded etc) Saw an opening for this present position no one wanted because of the responsibility and hours so I went for it and had on the job training. Was and is stressful as hell , but for this area it is considered good pay. If you dont like your pay try something else or quit complaining , complaining wont make you more money.

I got into elevators in the mid 80's. Been doing it for 30 years now. I put up with alot of # and proved myself. That is how it was back then.

Put up or shut up and be thankful you got this job in the first place.

originally posted by: Groot

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Groot

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: toysforadults

SHHHHHH, the CORP controlled media have people arguing about how lazy the mill are instead of how they are ripping off the workers (all). This is what the corps want, because the second the people get together and demand better, the corps nuts are clipped.

And the corps are slowly getting rid of the older generation and replacing them with technology and lower paid , lower skilled , lower experienced workers.

It's all riding on technology.

Unfortunately this trend will continue, have been involved with tech since the 80's, yeah it is going to be ugly.

Yeah, we are screwed.

I have been involved in tech since then also.

Remember the day before computers and cell phones, before pagers?

Yeah I remember dial phones, 8 track tapes, and party lines. My first home computer was a TRS-80 Model III, dual floppies and 48K of ram, it was King of The Road.

a reply to: Look2theSacredHeart

I agree, I just wanted to put something positive out there because there is a lot of negativity and this is a big bonus. This has also helped drive up wages for more skilled positions. Not by much and it's very latent.

I don't have any millennials working for me so I can only comment second-hand.

The biggest complaint I hear from my colleague managers is how entitled the latest generation of workers seem to be. It's like they expect a promotion within the first year of employment, instead of working for respect and higher recognition.

One kid went so far as to ask his manager 'Why should I work so hard when I'm not going to get any more money until the next annual merit increase?' (paraphrased). Even more ironic is that this specific manager is the most liberal/socialist Bernie-supporting guy I know and even he was disgusted by the lack of work ethic.

EDIT: to say it's not all bad, the millennials are definitely tech savvy. They glom onto the latest software and equipment updates without batting an eye.

a reply to: Groot

That's the culture I think people want to change. That's actually precisely the point.

In other words what you are proud of the next generation wants to change. Can't blame them really I would like to see the entire planet relax a little bit and live happier more fulfilling lives.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

'Why should I work so hard when I'm not going to get any more money until the next annual merit increase?'

Is that not a logical statement???

I get where you're coming from but if I analyze that perspective from a basic point of logic doesn't that make sense??

Millennials have been fighting our nations wars for 16 years now. There are more combat veterans today alive and still young than at any other time. 16 years of war but Millennials are just so awful.

Millennials are laying the foundations, brick by brick, of the colonization of our solar system. Millennials are finding new and novel ways to innovate with the technologies their parents built. Millennials are today at the cutting edge of genetics research that could lead to the end of some diseases, maybe all of them. They are doing so much and getting # on while doing it because a mob of these entitled brats you see on YouTube and anecdotes about #ty employees go viral on Facebook.

Why do people insist on always finding the downside? You'll spend hours raging on ATS about the idiotic SJWs and the time honored crappy attitude of people in their teens and twenties, but don't share the story of a teen who builds a working fusor from scratch, or the 16 year old girl who created new cancer screening techniques that are super fast and highly accurate.

I get irritated with the Millennials I see who are doing less or actively destroying what's around them as well. It's a disaster what is happening on college campuses. But the vast majority of students are going to class or are being affected by the actions of these idiots. Those good students, who are actually there to broaden their horizons, and learn something they can use to fulfill their desires, are the ones who suffer. Every time a class is cancelled for this crap, every time a speaker cancels their presentation because of violence, every time the school's property is destroyed, it hurts the good students there. They are losing time and money, and in some cases living a very meager life in order to educate themselves. Those Millennials deserve our support not a blanket condemnation.

I'm 32. I am a Millennial. I'm a happy husband and parent, a student, a veteran, and I am not lazy, nor am I entitled, nor have I been handed anything.

Many of you who criticize Millennials have no idea that you are one. If you're in your 30s and younger, you're a Millennial like that 18 year old you think is so awful.

a reply to: projectvxn

Millennials have been fighting out nations wars for 16 years now. There are more combat veterans today alive and still young than at any other time. 16 years of war but Millennials are just so awful.

On point. I would applause that if I could.

I got out of tech mid 90's, my life went to hell, passed a small independent auto parts store and machine shop with a help wanted sign in the window. Went in and was hired, was trained to be a master automotive machinist, most satisfying work I have ever done. I have worked on some unbelievable stuff, 1929 RR, that John Lennon once owned being the most memorable.

After making 6 figures in tech, I started that job for 8 bucks an hour, needless to say, didn't stay there long. Unfortunately an injury ended that most satisfying career of my life, now I work as an admin for a CPA, because I still have awesome software skills.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Groot

That's the culture I think people want to change. That's actually precisely the point.

In other words what you are proud of the next generation wants to change. Can't blame them really I would like to see the entire planet relax a little bit and live happier more fulfilling lives.

Then , if we relax a little, production goes down. Corp makes less money.

You know what the best thing to do?

Go buy a piece of land, build a place to sleep in on it. Farm it.

Become self-sufficient .

Work for yourself , rather than work for someone else. They have done that for thousands of years. It's only the last few hundred years that we had to rely on someone else to provide for us.

a reply to: Groot

Corp makes less money.

Not sure anyone sees that as a bad thing.

originally posted by: projectvxn
Millennials have been fighting our nations wars for 16 years now. There are more combat veterans today alive and still young than at any other time. 16 years of war but Millennials are just so awful.

Millennials are laying the foundations, brick by brick, of the colonization of our solar system. Millennials are finding new and novel ways to innovate with the technologies their parents built. Millennials are today at the cutting edge of genetics research that could lead to the end of some diseases, maybe all of them. They are doing so much and getting # on while doing it because a mob of these entitled brats you see on YouTube and anecdotes about #ty employees go viral on Facebook.

Why do people insist on always finding the downside? You'll spend hours raging on ATS about the idiotic SJWs and the time honored crappy attitude of people in their teens and twenties, but don't share the story of a teen who builds a working fusor from scratch, or the 16 year old girl who created new cancer screening techniques that are super fast and highly accurate.

I get irritated with the Millennials I see who are doing less or actively destroying what's around them as well. It's a disaster what is happening on college campuses. But the vast majority of students are going to class or are being affected by the actions of these idiots. Those good students, who are actually there to broaden their horizons, and learn something they can use to fulfill their desires, are the ones who suffer. Every time a class is cancelled for this crap, every time a speaker cancels their presentation because of violence, every time the school's property is destroyed, it hurts the good students there. They are losing time and money, and in some cases living a very meager life in order to educate themselves. Those Millennials deserve our support not a blanket condemnation.

I'm 32. I am a Millennial. I'm a happy husband and parent, a student, a veteran, and I am not lazy, nor am I entitled, nor have I been handed anything.

Many of you who criticize Millennials have no idea that you are one. If you're in your 30s and younger, you're a Millennial like that 18 year old you think is so awful.

Excellent post, all of my kids are mils. Daughter - manager of a non profit, SIL - Dr. in residency, Son - Sales, DIL - Engineer, Step Son - manager of a division, Step Daughter - Certified vet tech, Step son - Assistant Produce Manager for a major grocery chain, yeah these kids are working, but the media wants to highlight the negative.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Groot

Corp makes less money.

Not sure anyone sees that as a bad thing.

I do.

You operate a company at a loss or make policy that creates financial imbalances for the sake of "social responsibility" and everyone starts losing their jobs anyway.

Large corporations can and often do fail. Large corporations also employ large numbers of people. Corporations making Less money and employing more people is a huge financial imbalance that can only correct itself in one of two ways: 1 come up with the money very fast without creating a debt. 2 Layoff a lot of people.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Groot

Corp makes less money.

Not sure anyone sees that as a bad thing.

When they lose money, first thing to go are jobs. That is their biggest expense is labor. Take a business class. I don't have to to know the ramifications.

originally posted by: Groot

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Groot

That's the culture I think people want to change. That's actually precisely the point.

In other words what you are proud of the next generation wants to change. Can't blame them really I would like to see the entire planet relax a little bit and live happier more fulfilling lives.

Then , if we relax a little, production goes down. Corp makes less money.

You know what the best thing to do?

Go buy a piece of land, build a place to sleep in on it. Farm it.

Become self-sufficient .

Work for yourself , rather than work for someone else. They have done that for thousands of years. It's only the last few hundred years that we had to rely on someone else to provide for us.

Unfortunately, there are many places in the USA that you cannot do this. State, County, and Local government will fight you every step of the way. They want their fees.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Teikiatsu

'Why should I work so hard when I'm not going to get any more money until the next annual merit increase?'

Is that not a logical statement???

I get where you're coming from but if I analyze that perspective from a basic point of logic doesn't that make sense??

Because merit increase is based on the work you put in and projects completed. It can be anywhere from 0% to 10%

Guess what the entitled punks who don't work earn, assuming they don't get fired before then?

a reply to: toysforadults

Caesar is Dead.

Try Soros in that last line of yours. This was planned long ago, and look at the mess these Millenials are in now? And as someone said in another thread, It's these fire alarm pulling, giant babies who will be leading the World into the next Decade. Kids who don't have an # clue how things really work out there. And sign holding, and constant complaining won't make the world run smoother. But it is making the world more docile each Generation that passes into the annals of time.


God help us all.

a reply to: Groot

Yes Groot. That was how I was raised too. Be thankful for what you do have and keep plugging away. I would give some advice to the younger ones here. Dont spend more than you make , hard to do sometimes but it really is that simple. If you can stay with Mom and Dad for a few years and get a job do so , but save your money , put it in savings or and IRA or a 401B and at least save the amount the company will match as it is free money and will compound over the years. If you can not live with your folks rent as cheap a place as you can so you can save. Get a used car that is in good shape. Have a cheap phone instead of spending $1200.00. Be picky about who you marry. Forget about keeping up with the Jone's. The fact is most people that are well off when they retire did PLAN , they did SAVE , they did do WITHOUT so they could take care of themselves. Wish I would have done all that in my 20's instead of forties.

originally posted by: Groot

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Groot

Corp makes less money.

Not sure anyone sees that as a bad thing.

When they lose money, first thing to go are jobs. That is their biggest expense is labor. Take a business class. I don't have to to know the ramifications.

A great deal of corporations operate outside of the U.S., so there's no money to be lost in the first place.

Nearly six-decades of wage suppression and corporate welfare (subsidies) - but let's blame the Millenials who have roughly half of the purchasing power of the dollar bill compared to what it was twenty/thirty years ago.

I had a boss who regularly came to work drunk and regularly sipped cherry-vodka coffee during the workday. On some occasions, he'd take a cab home from work because he'd be so drunk. He was in his late '50's.

I suppose that's an adequate representation of everyone that falls in that demograph?

This thread is representative of where ATS has gone bad. Many of us in here are having rational conversation, and then the undesirables show up.