Any UK members still here? General elections, brexits and bombings yet it's like a ghost town?

The routine of replies in an ATS thread (certainly anything from the Live board) are so predictable it's like reading the same thing every day just under a different title. So only lurk and barely even read, TBH.

Plus UFOlogy (personal interest that brought me here) is beyond a joke at the moment. But it's also my fault, for just being at a low point...!

On the UK side of things, we have a problem with homegrown extremism and for some reason our solution is to put armed guards at Dover port.

We have the election soon and I'll probably vote Tory cos right now I don't care much either way. Note I'm a Brexit AND a Trump supporter, and Nigel Farage, lol... so yeah... what a lot of people would call "not normal"...or rather, views people generally get angry about if you tell them, because every # out there seems to be on the highest moral high ground they possibly can be thanks to events in 2016 & 17. The best part is that common UK folk who hate Donald Trump don't actually know why they do when pressed or have the flimsiest of excuses, yet have the nerve to get angry about someone who DOES support him, ugh. It's like, do you keep bothering with these small minded folks, or just shut off and ignore?

Global polticians bickering at each other and Trump is so #ing yawn nowadays too, like my first line, the repetitive, predictable nature of political discussion (amongst many other things) is simply absolutely as unfulfilling as it possibly can be, to me at least.

The ransomware thing recently was the maddest # I ever saw happen here , so much so my gob is shut tight , so's the msms by the looks . But still here, still reading and post sometimes . I think from outside as I didnt check well at all on the many russiagate threads , but looks as if Seth Rich getting bumped off is the factual outcome of a long old battle , down to Clinton badness not Trump listening to Russian intel . He can buy that if he wants . The left lost to Trump
We if there is a we should be here for the elections , there's a couple Brits I know . Just want to see the EU out is my part

a reply to: nonspecific

How did you miss the Manchester bombings at the top of the front page?
What does it matter where members are from? That's the good thing about the net if you ask me, being able to talk with people from all over the world just about. Though I do think you might be seeing less posts from the UK members might well be because of everything being buried by Trump threads. I think he should have his own topic, like 911, but even so they would still be all over the front page with all division being dished out.

Personally I like to browse new and recent topics for all things current. But some of the best reads are from older threads. I think we need a topic and vote on the best 100 threads thread. Now that would be good.

a reply to: markymint
Yea yea yea ... so what you going to do about it ? You not got children ? Xx

a reply to: markymint

You say all that and I can definitely relate to your sentiments, but why vote conservative? The national debt has sky rocketed under the Tory's and their cuts aren't helping anyone. Politics needs a huge shake up in this country as it does with the rest of the world. But voting conservatives, or labour for that matter won't change owt.

As ridiculous as it sounds on the face of it and to those that haven't researched it. Anarchy is probably the best solution at this point. Or something akin to it.

And there lies the catch, you see, I don't think this G.E. is all about "change". I think it's about seeing through what's already been started. At least, it is to me. And TBF all the people who have acted like I'm a dick for supporting Trump/Brexit -- are Labour supporters. So # 'em Even though as I say, I'm not being as engaged as I may usually be, Brexit and Trump certainly brought all the snowflakes to the surface, what fun it was to see people literally crumble apart, and a Tory G.E. win will be the icing on that cake.

I'd like to see us get out of the same 2 party politics, sure, but I don't think this is the point in our history where it's likely to happen, so not going to act like it is. I certainly have some reservations about the Tories... but some of their measures actually gave me the kick up the arse I needed to go out there and be successful for myself. No such thing under the previous Labour government really... UKIP and Greens stand no chance this time round, and I usually consider them when "change" is at stake, or at the forefront of what seems necessary to take us in a new direction.

But this is it. I don't care who I'm voting for, I don't care who other people are voting for (and I don't mind...vote for whomever you want...I don't play that judgement game...apart from on people who actively talk down my support for others ). Do what you want... People will still be up in arms about Brexit. The MSM will continue to hate Trump. ATS threads will continue to divulge into bickering. This is life. "Rinse and repeat" I believe they say.

Edit. Checking some other websites. I see the vilification of possibly voting Tory is on max power as it was with Trump (not so much Brexit, because the Brits didn't think it would happen) ... they're not so "off guard" and complacent this time with the whole G.E. thing

originally posted by: nofear39
a reply to: nonspecific
Haha that old chestnut .. those people you mentioned usually choose the vunable and weak .. which usually means messed up kids with no family .. and the same people are connected with the media and the like .. so the general public
Doesn't hear about it or get fcked off about it ..now if these people you mention all worshiped a pedo as their god and think it's ok to blow up innocent children .. and shouted from the roof tops so we knew who the fck they are we would sort them out .. see the difference ? Xxx

No I see you clinging to your thinly veiled racism and xenophobia like a comfort blanket.

Take a step back and think about what you are and what you stand for, think twice before considering yourself an adult.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: nonspecific

How did you miss the Manchester bombings at the top of the front page?
What does it matter where members are from? That's the good thing about the net if you ask me, being able to talk with people from all over the world just about. Though I do think you might be seeing less posts from the UK members might well be because of everything being buried by Trump threads. I think he should have his own topic, like 911, but even so they would still be all over the front page with all division being dished out.

Personally I like to browse new and recent topics for all things current. But some of the best reads are from older threads. I think we need a topic and vote on the best 100 threads thread. Now that would be good.

I did not miss the Manchester thread I simply chose to ignore it.

What I was looking for was the heated yet intelligent debates/bar brawls that used to kick off round here a while back?

It seems like apethy has taken over and was not sure if tht was an ats thing or a UK citizen thing in general?

Vote labour by the way as it makes tories cross.

Iv just joined mainly due to the events of the last day or two. I have lurked on her for years and years and was originally drawn by the conspiracy and alt historical info. But for the past 6 months to a year it's been Trump Central.

I don't think we're discussing the election as it's not a a great choice. All the parties at the moment are shocking and the leaders are even worse. The manifesto's are a joke and most of it will never happen. It's either vote tory for another 5 years of misery or labour who couldn't manage to organise a local book club let alone a country.

Yes apathay does appear to be kicking in a little bit as it's the same old year after year.
No pay rise,
Costs go up,
Rich people even richer,
couple of terrorist attacks,
the constant drivel of celebrity's,
Another election,
More broken promises,
Repeat....

We need doom porn.

a reply to: nonspecific

maybe they went to another forum that isn`t dominated by U.S. conservatives and liberals having their usual pissing contests

a reply to: surfer_soul

Not only what does it matter, but how do you know who is from the UK and who isn't?

For all you know I could be sitting behind a laptop somewhere in England right now...

I just chose not to disclose my location to every member all the time. I think plenty of UK members still post here... I just think they don't care about telling people where they're from.

If it comes up in conversation, thats fine, otherwise id prefer not to know.

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: nonspecific

How did you miss the Manchester bombings at the top of the front page?
What does it matter where members are from? That's the good thing about the net if you ask me, being able to talk with people from all over the world just about. Though I do think you might be seeing less posts from the UK members might well be because of everything being buried by Trump threads. I think he should have his own topic, like 911, but even so they would still be all over the front page with all division being dished out.

Personally I like to browse new and recent topics for all things current. But some of the best reads are from older threads. I think we need a topic and vote on the best 100 threads thread. Now that would be good.

Vote labour by the way as it makes tories cross.

Consider your self an adult ? Haha xx idiot

originally posted by: nofear39

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: nonspecific

How did you miss the Manchester bombings at the top of the front page?
What does it matter where members are from? That's the good thing about the net if you ask me, being able to talk with people from all over the world just about. Though I do think you might be seeing less posts from the UK members might well be because of everything being buried by Trump threads. I think he should have his own topic, like 911, but even so they would still be all over the front page with all division being dished out.

Personally I like to browse new and recent topics for all things current. But some of the best reads are from older threads. I think we need a topic and vote on the best 100 threads thread. Now that would be good.

Vote labour by the way as it makes tories cross.

Consider your self an adult ? Haha xx idiot

Failure to recognise humour? and name calling without even bothering to end with a full stop?

Does your mum know you come on here?

haha grammar police now ? Xx
Or punctuation police before youstart hahahahaha

Lots of members are absent these days and I think it is because of all the hate here now. If you think about your question, why come here when you know it will just be full of hate filled drivel?

Good point.

I was kind of hoping things had settled down on that front to be honest.

We used to have some serious discussions but a lot of mutual repect and a whole heap of laughs along the way.

Everything comes to an end I suppose.

a reply to: nonspecific

Sad to say but seen it all before.

And the passing of two ATS friends affected me - not the same.

ATS is still by far the best site of its type, but back in the day it was so vibrant and passionate and no topic was off limit.
Nowadays its become more of a political / current event site with the same people exchanging the same dogmatic bollocks with each other.

I don't think I'll ever completely stop visiting here, just not as often and I tend to do more lurking, shaking my head in disbelief or literally laughing out loud at the standard of some of the contributions.

Was: Above Top Secret

Now: Angry Triggered Sapiophiles



Americans are the dominant force here, that's how it's always been and probably always will be. But as someone a few posts back said, the more aggressive and down each others throats they all become, the less engaged everyone else gets. When you take the usa leader of the free world saying, and apply it to some of the threads you read here, you just think, "Really? Reeeeeallllllyyy?".

A bit like being at a party, and the hosts of the party go crazy at each other. Everyone else just sort of slowly stands back and ums and errs...



Anyway, it's good for a laugh. There are still plenty of interesting things to read. But for some serious discussion? I think we all have friends outside of ATS for that. That said, I've noticed a trend in the real world of how people just reply to what you say with how they're different to you, or think or do something differently, which has led (my end) to a certain disdain of discussing anything with anyone, ever. LOL. Common ground seems to have been lost, down a sinkhole.

The UK is run by an elite for an elite, we might as well be in two separate countries.

Some in the higher echelons might be regarded by many of us as traitors.

Certainly it's painfully obvious how far they've got their snouts in the trough. The rest of us will never have a long-enough handled spoon.

What can we do? We've been under the yoke for very nearly 1,000 years.

In the past we were worked to death and discarded then some bright spark decided we'd make good consumers. So we got led off on the Bread and Circuses route.

No complaint from me, I like bread and circuses more than just being worked to death.

BUT, the elite keep getting more greedy. So they swamp the country with more consumers.

Never mind us having to compete harder for fewer and fewer crumbs such as education and health care.

The elite just float off in their chauffeur-driven limousines to their gated communities after a hard half hour of mutual back scratching and old boy networking every day. They don't have to catch a whiff of us.

That's us who've been convinced that a pie and chips with a bit of footie on a Saturday is all we need for an inspiring and entertaining weekend.

The arts? one asks. Is there a reason we lower orders can't appreciate Opera or the Ballet? Art Galleries or Museums? Gales of laughter or low snickering from our Masters? Listening to people sing or watching them hopping about on their points is obviously far too highbrow and demanding for us.

And what can we discuss that's in the news? It's all bollocks designed to undermine and frighten us. Brexit will go ahead as and when the people charged to do it are good and ready. There's no point in reading the articles about what could or would happen in the event.

The Election? Same old crap as always.

Prison sentences, the severity of which is nonexistent. We can take comfort in the fact that other prisoners will mete out justice to the worst offenders... so much easier to placate us with that than to overhaul the system and make a custodial sentence mean something more than getting locked up to party with your mates.

Drug dealing? Yeah, don't anybody do the sensible thing of cleaning up and taxing it. Why not leave it as a lucrative way for vicious little gangs to make money - which they might be inclined to spend on expensive consumer goods. Better a handful of people with several thousand in their back pockets than several thousand people with just a few quid.

Prostitution? It would be nice to see that cleaned up and run sensibly with a corresponding grown up attitude encouraged amongst the people. That won't happen because someone, somewhere, wants to keep it dirty and dangerous.

And, final thought. If you were the Queen would you rather reign over 70,000,000 or 50,000,000?

a reply to: berenike


I enjoyed that, why not pad it out a bit and make an OP in the rant forum? I'd enjoy that even more.