U.K. Threat level raised to critical

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson

originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: 0racle
a reply to: Funem

ISIS have said more to come.

Agreed. Check this out:

A chilling message on Telegram, from an ISIS supporting group Yaqeen Media, said vehicle attacks will take place in the UK.

It stated: “Today we fight you on our land, and tomorrow on your land, by Allah’s permission. “Soon, the vehicle attacks will be witnessed on your streets, by Allah’s permission.”

Elsewhere on the encrypted messenger site one user said: “We hope that the perpetrator is one of the soldiers of the caliphate.”

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"Fight"? Attacking a bunch of unsuspecting teen age girls is fighting? How many have to die before they are actually going to take steps to do something?

Strategic patience MUST end. Not just with respect to NK (that's another thread, of course) but also ISIS. This is war. And until our elected officials treat it as such we can expect more incidents to happen at a more frequent pace.

They need to be nuked.

Sorry about the double post. Not sure how that happened.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Actually the UK has a really good track record of thwarting these kind of attacks there is loads of stuff that goes into counter-terrorism in the UK because we are at such high risk. For example it was reported earlier this year that 13 active terrorist plots in the uk had been prevented, with something like 500 investigations.

This guy was UK born, so where the guys who killed Lee Rigby, and the guy behind the recent Westminster attack was actually a uk born Islamic convert.

Immigration is not a issue, its just that those on the right like to pretend it is after a event like this

Immigration is an issue, if not the biggest issue. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK, and its not because people are just happening to convert.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Actually the UK has a really good track record of thwarting these kind of attacks there is loads of stuff that goes into counter-terrorism in the UK because we are at such high risk. For example it was reported earlier this year that 13 active terrorist plots in the uk had been prevented, with something like 500 investigations.

This guy was UK born, so where the guys who killed Lee Rigby, and the guy behind the recent Westminster attack was actually a uk born Islamic convert.

Immigration is not a issue, its just that those on the right like to pretend it is after a event like this

Immigration is an issue, if not the biggest issue. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK, and its not because people are just happening to convert.

Actually i think Atheism is the biggest growing believe system but whatever.

No sorry but you are totally 100% wrong to say this is a immigration issue.

One of the guys who murdered Lee Rigby was uk born to Christian parents.

The guy who recently attacked Westminster, he was a Muslim convert also UK born with uk heritage

You cannot pretend that immigration is the problem when we tens of thousands of immigrants in this country and only a handful of them have actually committed terrorist attacks and we have had just as many, if not more, attackers who are British born.

Its a right wing myth that immigrations = terrorism.

a reply to: dianajune

To quote some comedian; What sins did all those virgins do to deserve the terrorist in heaven?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Actually the UK has a really good track record of thwarting these kind of attacks there is loads of stuff that goes into counter-terrorism in the UK because we are at such high risk. For example it was reported earlier this year that 13 active terrorist plots in the uk had been prevented, with something like 500 investigations.

This guy was UK born, so where the guys who killed Lee Rigby, and the guy behind the recent Westminster attack was actually a uk born Islamic convert.

Immigration is not a issue, its just that those on the right like to pretend it is after a event like this

Immigration is an issue, if not the biggest issue. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK, and its not because people are just happening to convert.

Actually i think Atheism is the biggest growing believe system but whatever.

No sorry but you are totally 100% wrong to say this is a immigration issue.

One of the guys who murdered Lee Rigby was uk born to Christian parents.

The guy who recently attacked Westminster, he was a Muslim convert also UK born with uk heritage

You cannot pretend that immigration is the problem when we tens of thousands of immigrants in this country and only a handful of them have actually committed terrorist attacks and we have had just as many, if not more, attackers who are British born.

Its a right wing myth that immigrations = terrorism.

Mass migration and immigration is the biggest problem facing Europe today, including in the UK. Islam does not share, and even opposes, the values of the enlightenment and liberalism. Import illiberal elements all you want, but to pretend an influx of illiberal fundamentalists is not an issue is the height of stupidity.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Actually the UK has a really good track record of thwarting these kind of attacks there is loads of stuff that goes into counter-terrorism in the UK because we are at such high risk. For example it was reported earlier this year that 13 active terrorist plots in the uk had been prevented, with something like 500 investigations.

This guy was UK born, so where the guys who killed Lee Rigby, and the guy behind the recent Westminster attack was actually a uk born Islamic convert.

Immigration is not a issue, its just that those on the right like to pretend it is after a event like this

Immigration is an issue, if not the biggest issue. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the UK, and its not because people are just happening to convert.

Actually i think Atheism is the biggest growing believe system but whatever.

No sorry but you are totally 100% wrong to say this is a immigration issue.

One of the guys who murdered Lee Rigby was uk born to Christian parents.

The guy who recently attacked Westminster, he was a Muslim convert also UK born with uk heritage

You cannot pretend that immigration is the problem when we tens of thousands of immigrants in this country and only a handful of them have actually committed terrorist attacks and we have had just as many, if not more, attackers who are British born.

Its a right wing myth that immigrations = terrorism.

Mass migration and immigration is the biggest problem facing Europe today, including in the UK. Islam does not share, and even opposes, the values of the enlightenment and liberalism. Import illiberal elements all you want, but to pretend an influx of illiberal fundamentalists is not an issue is the height of stupidity.

Yet the vast majority of Muslims in the UK are just law abiding citizens going about their daily business.

With out immigration the UK would be crippled, 25% of doctors in the NHS are not born in the UK take them away and the country is crippled overnight.

Now the issue of immigration is totally off the topic of the UK raising its threat level.

So if you dont mind, can we please stay on topic.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

This does actually mean that the military will be deployed on the streets of the UK

Sad day for my friends in the UK, my sympathies.

Does this mean (just curious), they'll invoke some kind of curfew? Will they set up road blocks and check points? I'm also curious to know.......will they temporarily suspend operations at large public venues like the one that got bombed last night in Manchester?

I used to somewhat understand UK Operations, but.........I'm sure things have changed since IRA days.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Yet the vast majority of Muslims in the UK are just law abiding citizens going about their daily business.

With out immigration the UK would be crippled, 25% of doctors in the NHS are not born in the UK take them away and the country is crippled overnight.

Now the issue of immigration is totally off the topic of the UK raising its threat level.

So if you dont mind, can we please stay on topic.

Obviously a large number of doctors will foreign born if you live in a country that takes mass immigration to be a virtue.

As for the heightened state of security, the police state will only grow under such conditions.

a reply to: TonyS

Does this mean (just curious), they'll invoke some kind of curfew? Will they set up road blocks and check points?

No curfew, probably more security checks though so if you were to be visiting certain areas you might have more security to go through. I dont think there would be road blocks into and out of cities or anything that extreme. I also dont think they will be stopping large public gatherings.

Even the military presence might not be that noticeable, probably just going to be at high priority targets

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

As for the heightened state of security, the police state will only grow under such conditions.

This is the second time that we have gone to Critical it usually never lasts very long or has any real impact in going about daily living even in places like the middle of london.

Time to start punishing a close family member of yesterday's terrorist, and broadcast that punishment through the terrorist channels. Family is all they've got...all they TRULY care about.

a reply to: 23432

care to perhaps make a comment on the UK raising the threat level.....

Or you just going to post that same silly meme on every thread you can find.

Obama, Merkel, et al., had the opportunity to do more about ISIS years ago, but Obama responded by refusing to even acknowledge radical Islamic terrorism. However, he did seem to be able to send secret multi-billion dollar cash dumps by plane to Iran, around the same time crowds stood in streets chanting death to America.

Most recently we have a new U.S. president who actually tried to take measurable steps to try and keep ISIS operatives out of the country by implementing a temporary travel ban from select countries, which was then struck down by liberal courts. He also authorized used of the MOAB to try and collapse centralized tunnel networks they use. And all he got for it was insults and mockery from CNN and the rest of the U.S. liberal media.

Whatever the U.S. or other countries do at this point, it will not be as effective as it would have been had Obama and friends taken real action earlier instead of allowing ISIS to bloom and expand without control. Once you allow such a rebel group to grow and become more organized and structured, it becomes all the more difficult to do something about it.

Now we have May ordering military into the streets. The type of action everyone in free countries dread. And it can be used as a pretext to start taking away our freedom in general if the attacks continue, perhaps on a longer term basis.

One can't help but notice that all the leaders promoting the new world order agenda were also soft on terrorism even though they may have used strong rhetoric. Take from that what you will.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Hmm, thanks for the info.

Sounds like they're playing, at least somewhat, from the Italian play book. If you haven't seen it.......you should visit and observe. Its damn near spooky. Last time I was there, wife and I reading a map on a street corner in Rome, (let our guard down honestly, but I used to live there); a guy approached from my right, (wife on my left), and a plains clothes type jumped out from a store front, took the guy down and swooped him into a Jeep like Polizia vehicle with three uniformed "toughs" in it that had magically screeched to a stop in front of us. We just stared, agape at what happened in a thrice. Another uniform walked by with a radio and smiled at us and sad "Scusi, pick-pocket", and pointed to the wife's purse.

In Italy..........the cops, the military, the state police, are literally everywhere and yet nowhere at the same time.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Lets not forget the Anglo American Establishment armed and funded ISIS and were trying their best to justify being their Airforce,the same type of folks that are blowing up kids at concerts.

The most deceptive dishonest turds that are raising threat levels are playing 4th dimensional chess,it's hard to trust a Government that manipulates it's own citizens into invading foreign countries based on the lies of WMDs.

Sounds like politics to me. With May having just seen her lead in the polls drop by 50% over the weekend, this is just perfect for her to play politics with the situation by stringing it out and appearing 'tough and strong' by putting soldiers on the streets.

a reply to: Painterz

Sounds like politics to me.

Its JTAC that set the threat level, they work independent from government.

Nothing to do with the upcoming election.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: 23432

care to perhaps make a comment on the UK raising the threat level.....

Or you just going to post that same silly meme on every thread you can find.

British Jewry and Jesuits are having a fight while people are goaded into hating muslims .



That above is not a silly meme but the truth .