The Left kills children by letting Terrorists in the UK Terror Attack should be a Wake Up Call

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

"Common sense" isn't a substitute for evidence.

I get that you are waiting for proof of death, but again I''ll assume you would need that proof of death to be someone else's family.

You also don;t need 'evidence' to apply policy. Common sense is fine.

originally posted by: Power_Semi

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Power_Semi
Wow,, what a repugnant view, I guess it sums you up completely. You aren't 'on the side' of anyone but those who cause the divisions that end up with what the world is today. You are part of the problem, not the solution.

What the hell are you talking about.

It's easy to sit there and throw insults around - someone my daughter knows has possibly been killed in this - and you want to call me repugnant for being upset?

It's idiots like you that are the problem, whatever injustice has been done to you there is no excuse for killing children - except you seem to think when it's them killing our children.

Your logic seems to be that what we have supposedly done is bad, so it's just for them to kill kids - and being upset about that makes me the problem because dealing with the problem would be somehow infringing on their "rights".

I would say you have a warped view of reality but really you are coming across as one of the leftist idiots who have caused the situation we face - they can do no wrong but be upset about an atrocity like this and the people who did it and you're a bigot and a racist and that's worse than killing children?

Moron.

Bravo


Hope your daughters friend is ok.
You are spot on about the racist smears.. it only took 2 posts for that to come out. It is moronic and disgusting.

a reply to: UKTruth

I know, right?

We should put a stop to tourism too.

And trousers. They're responsible for many deaths each year.

And Christians, JW's, Catholics, water, air, electricity, cars, planes, boats, animals, vegetables, rocks and a whole bunch of other things.

Let's just ban everything and leave the island with nothing. That way, nothing bad will happen. Hopefully someone from another country will take you in though.

originally posted by: auroraaus

originally posted by: UKTruth

There is simply no need to import refugees into this country and add to the terrorist problem. Even if the percentage of refugees that are terrorists was as low as 0.1%, that is too high. Somebody needs to explain why bringing in refugees, that have every right to hate us after we bombed their lands and killed their people, helps this country, because at the moment it appears the argument is that adding to the terrorist threat is acceptable.

Would you be willing to tell that to a mother's face who is desperate for a safe place for her children to live and grow?

Yes... right after we created safe zones in their country.

Now, are you willing to visit Manchester and explain to the mother of the dead 8 year old girl why bringing in more refugees, of which there will be terrorists we can't identify, is a good for this country?

originally posted by: Justoneman
Ah for goodness sake. He AND UK have stated the logic.

No, they did not. No one I have asked has yet to reply. Maybe you can link me to their plans.

Have some compassion for the kids for goodness sake!

Don't conflate my questioning how someone addresses a problem with lack of compassion towards anyone. People on this site tend to run their mouths and offer no practical solutions to anything. Witness the 'kill their families' thread that was shut down. Pure jackassery.

a reply to: UKTruth

"Blah blah blah. I'm just saying random crap that sounds good because I can't prove my point." That's all I hear from you.

a reply to: Stevemagegod

Do you even know whay the current refugee vetting process entails?

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: UKTruth

I know, right?

We should put a stop to tourism too.

And trousers. They're responsible for many deaths each year.

And Christians, JW's, Catholics, water, air, electricity, cars, planes, boats, animals, vegetables, rocks and a whole bunch of other things.

Let's just ban everything and leave the island with nothing. That way, nothing bad will happen. Hopefully someone from another country will take you in though.

There is no need to stop tourism, though it makes sense to put a halt on tourism from countries that are unable to properly vet their own people. Makes a lot of sense.

Your argument is moot. Just because there is risk in society does not mean you need to add to it, for zero gain. Fairly obvious really.

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: Stevemagegod

Do you even know whay the current refugee vetting process entails?

Do you?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

"Blah blah blah. I'm just saying random crap that sounds good because I can't prove my point." That's all I hear from you.

Lol, the irony of that post is hilarious.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: auroraaus

originally posted by: UKTruth

There is simply no need to import refugees into this country and add to the terrorist problem. Even if the percentage of refugees that are terrorists was as low as 0.1%, that is too high. Somebody needs to explain why bringing in refugees, that have every right to hate us after we bombed their lands and killed their people, helps this country, because at the moment it appears the argument is that adding to the terrorist threat is acceptable.

Would you be willing to tell that to a mother's face who is desperate for a safe place for her children to live and grow?

Yes... right after we created safe zones in their country.

Now, are you willing to visit Manchester and explain to the mother of the dead 8 year old girl why bringing in more refugees, of which there will be terrorists we can't identify, is a good for this country?

Aye and how many blasted years has taken to create "safe zones" in countries in dire straits? Also to add, it is going to take years for these places to recover and prosper.

And I would - in time - because generally mothers will relate to other mothers in the situation. If my child was killed in a terror attack god forbid, I know I personally would not hold that against a foreign child who needs safety.

ETA: It's akin to saying a certain child's life is worth more than anothers.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: UKTruth

I know, right?

We should put a stop to tourism too.

And trousers. They're responsible for many deaths each year.

And Christians, JW's, Catholics, water, air, electricity, cars, planes, boats, animals, vegetables, rocks and a whole bunch of other things.

Let's just ban everything and leave the island with nothing. That way, nothing bad will happen. Hopefully someone from another country will take you in though.

There is no need to stop tourism, though it makes sense to put a halt on tourism from countries that are unable to properly vet their own people. Makes a lot of sense.

You mean like terrorists from our own or other countries who have never done a thing, but then do? How exactly would you vet that?

Your argument is moot. Just because there is risk in society does not mean you need to add to it, for zero gain. Fairly obvious really.

Zero gain?
My wifes medical specialist is a son of an immigrant. My step-daughters medical specialist is also a son of an immigrant. When I got into a bad car crash, I was treated by, you guessed, a son of an immigrant.

I'm not denying there are bad people, but there are bad people in all groups, not just Muslim.

a reply to: UKTruth

And now the ad hominems start. Checking off that deflection checklist one-by-one are you? You can't prove that terrorists smuggle in with refugees because it doesn't happen. It's a lot easier to just radicalize native citizens. They have an easier time getting around undetected as they already know the ins and outs of the country they live in. Speaking of common sense and all.

originally posted by: auroraaus


Would you be willing to tell that to a mother's face who is desperate for a safe place for her children to live and grow?

Well said, but some people are so full of hate they'd never understand that.

originally posted by: UKTruth
Yes... right after we created safe zones in their country.

Now, are you willing to visit Manchester and explain to the mother of the dead 8 year old girl why bringing in more refugees, of which there will be terrorists we can't identify, is a good for this country?

Saffie was the daughter of Greek Cypriots, immigrants themselves.

originally posted by: auroraaus

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: auroraaus

originally posted by: UKTruth

There is simply no need to import refugees into this country and add to the terrorist problem. Even if the percentage of refugees that are terrorists was as low as 0.1%, that is too high. Somebody needs to explain why bringing in refugees, that have every right to hate us after we bombed their lands and killed their people, helps this country, because at the moment it appears the argument is that adding to the terrorist threat is acceptable.

Would you be willing to tell that to a mother's face who is desperate for a safe place for her children to live and grow?

Yes... right after we created safe zones in their country.

Now, are you willing to visit Manchester and explain to the mother of the dead 8 year old girl why bringing in more refugees, of which there will be terrorists we can't identify, is a good for this country?

Aye and how many blasted years has taken to create "safe zones" in countries in dire straits? Also to add, it is going to take years for these places to recover and prosper.

And I would - in time - because generally mothers will relate to other mothers in the situation. If my child was killed in a terror attack god forbid, I know I personally would not hold that against a foreign child who needs safety.

ETA: It's akin to saying a certain child's life is worth more than anothers.

I am sure you'd be well received.


Do you realise how many people and children are living in poverty and danger in this world. I assume your solution is not to bring every poor child in danger looking for a better life to this country? If my assumption is correct, why would we choose families where the threat of terrorism is real and stated by people who want to kill us? Why not bring in some kids in danger and poverty from other places in the world????

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

And now the ad hominems start. Checking off that deflection checklist one-by-one are you? You can't prove that terrorists smuggle in with refugees because it doesn't happen. It's a lot easier to just radicalize native citizens. They have an easier time getting around undetected as they already knows the ins and outs of it. Speaking of common sense and all.

If I recall - I think was it in Germany? Brussels? One of the perps was infact possing as a refugee or asylum seeker. And ISIS had said in the past that was a method they were encouraging.
Not wanting to give further ammunition to the alt-right but there you go.

But you are absolutely right. Its easier to create homegrown terrorist, especially when the individuals are further alienated.

originally posted by: Agartha

originally posted by: auroraaus


Would you be willing to tell that to a mother's face who is desperate for a safe place for her children to live and grow?

Well said, but some people are so full of hate they'd never understand that.

originally posted by: UKTruth
Yes... right after we created safe zones in their country.

Now, are you willing to visit Manchester and explain to the mother of the dead 8 year old girl why bringing in more refugees, of which there will be terrorists we can't identify, is a good for this country?

Saffie was the daughter of Greek Cypriots, immigrants themselves.

Nonsense.
You can not solve the worlds ills by inviting everyone to this country. That is not a solution. It's a nice, unrealistic, fluffy, concept though. There is nothing wrong with immigration, as long as it is beneficial to this country.

The fact an immigrants daughter was murdered is not relevant. No child should be at risk of being murdered by terrorists and our govt should not be playing roulette with immigration.

originally posted by: UKTruth

I am sure you'd be well received.

Do you realise how many people and children are living in poverty and danger in this world. I assume your solution is not to bring every poor child in danger looking for a better life to this country? If my assumption is correct, why would we choose families where the threat of terrorism is real and stated by people who want to kill us? Why not bring in some kids in danger and poverty from other places in the world????

Ironic about that poor lass's heritage isn't it?

Why are you doing this? You're pretty much shifting goalposts here.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

And now the ad hominems start. Checking off that deflection checklist one-by-one are you? You can't prove that terrorists smuggle in with refugees because it doesn't happen. It's a lot easier to just radicalize native citizens. They have an easier time getting around undetected as they already know the ins and outs of the country they live in. Speaking of common sense and all.

Wow. You throw out an insult and complain because your insult was called ironic? Laughable.

I can;t prove that terrorists are smuggled in with refugees? Really? It doesn't happen?

At least one Syrian refugee who had recently entered Europe was among the seven terrorists who carried out the deadliest attacks in France since World War II, according to authorities. The strikes across Paris left 129 people dead and 352 injured. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attacks Saturday in a statement that warned, “Indeed, this is just the beginning.”

Sounds like as long as other people are killed, your just fine and dandy.

a reply to: Power_Semi

Yes, your view is repugnant, you are blaming all of one part of society for the crime committed by an individual. All the rest of the appeals to emotion and personal insults in your post is worth nothing. You suggest I'm not upset - far from it, you just think all muslims are to blame for the criminal act of an individual. Get over yourself and stop being such an arse. Twisting my words to try and make you sound in some way more morally right for holding your views is nothing more than pathetic.