The Left kills children by letting Terrorists in the UK Terror Attack should be a Wake Up Call

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: [post=22266385]UKTruth

A full ban on Muslims entering the country is both sensible and necessary, let alone the watered down version President Trump has had to compromise on.

?????

Did you mean rounding up British Born Citizens who follow the Islamic Faith? Camps? Interment? Where do you deport British Born Citizens to?

Otherwise WTF are you talking about?

Suspect born in Manchester...

Your point is a nonsense liberal talking point.
The issue is radical islamic terror

He has been a BRITISH CITIZEN much longer than he has followed Islam..

Maybe it is being British Born that made him a terrorist?

No , it's quite obvious that he was a radical islamic terrorist. More than likely radicalised online, or maybe by his ISIS pals if he went out for a visit (like the 7/7 bombers for example), or maybe from the immigrant Imam at his local mosque.

Radical islamic terrorists exists inside and outside our borders and it's tied to the extremes of the islamic faith. It's a cancer that has grown inside Muslim communities and countries for years.

The most ridiculous (and predictable) argument today has been that we don't need to worry about new radical islamists entering our country, like there are none trying to gain access to the West to kill people.

The OP is spot on in one respect. You guys are playing with fire. Despite being told by the very people that want to kill people in your country that they will be sending people as refugees, you seem to want to wait to take the risk seriously until people are dead... other people you don't know of course. If that happens then you will indeed have played a part, however small.

The OP knows it is the right who are in power here in the UK right now?

Therefore I think you will find you cannot blame the left on this occasion, in fact the attacker was born when we had a right wing government too.

Hmmm, that's a whole lotta right going on there.

In fact besides 7/7 every other terrorist attack on British soil has been conducted whilst we have a right wing government.

So, please do explain how you can think scoring cheap points off of the tragedy of the last 24 hours has helped your cause, when your premise is flawed.

There are children still not accounted for tonight whose parents are shattered and you think this thread is okay?

It really isn't.

a reply to: solargeddon

In fact besides 7/7 every other terrorist attack on British soil has been conducted whilst we have a right wing government.

Right wing government.

We have had nothing but year after year of centrist governments since 1994

The truth is...any politician who allows a terrorist into a peaceful country and the terrorist kills anyone...that politician should go to jail for aiding and abetting the terrorist.

We all know the facts. We all know what religion and nationality the terrorists are. We all know the risk and no one with half a brain should be willing to risk a single life over illegal or refugee immigrants. Those who do should be held liable. They have been told and warned.

HOLD OUR GOVERNMENTS LIABLE!

a reply to: UKTruth

I find it remarkable you have so little self-awareness that you don't realize you are advocating for your own facist caliphate.

meh...maybe you do..

originally posted by: UKTruth

This means restrictions on travel and restrictions on immigration.
It means monitoring.
It means deportations.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Exactly. Literally thousands of extremists could be rounded up tomorrow and jailed or deported.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Profiling is needed.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Add restrictions to the internet, and punish hate speech more fully

originally posted by: UKTruth


A full ban on Muslims entering the country is both sensible and necessary

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: UKTruth

I fink it remarkable you have so little self-awareness that you don't realize you are advocating for your own facist caliphate.

meh...maybe you do..

originally posted by: UKTruth

This means restrictions on travel and restrictions on immigration.
It means monitoring.
It means deportations.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Exactly. Literally thousands of extremists could be rounded up tomorrow and jailed or deported.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Profiling is needed.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Add restrictions to the internet, and punish hate speech more fully

originally posted by: UKTruth


A full ban on Muslims entering the country is both sensible and necessary

All required to defeat radical islamic terrorism.

Can you describe how deporting those that indoctrinate others to blow up kids, jailing them if they are a British Citizen, monitoring those that want to kill people and jailing them, removing radical islamic terror doctrine from the internet, and banning entry to the country to tighten up controls on immigration constitutes a fascist caliphate? Or are you hyperventilating like those idiots on CNN?

As is usual for you guys, you have zero solutions, instead pretending there is no problem whilst 8 year old girls are being blown to pieces just because they went to see their favourite pop star.

Not if, but when, more people are killed in your own back yard I wonder will it give you the wake up call the OP so correctly says you need?
Or are you so far gone that it will take someone you know personally to be blown up?

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
The truth is...any politician who allows a terrorist into a peaceful country and the terrorist kills anyone...that politician should go to jail for aiding and abetting the terrorist.

We all know the facts. We all know what religion and nationality the terrorists are. We all know the risk and no one with half a brain should be willing to risk a single life over illegal or refugee immigrants. Those who do should be held liable. They have been told and warned.

HOLD OUR GOVERNMENTS LIABLE!

..and also those that gave cover to said govts to not act...

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: [post=22266385]UKTruth

A full ban on Muslims entering the country is both sensible and necessary, let alone the watered down version President Trump has had to compromise on.

?????

Did you mean rounding up British Born Citizens who follow the Islamic Faith? Camps? Interment? Where do you deport British Born Citizens to?

Otherwise WTF are you talking about?

Suspect born in Manchester...

Your point is a nonsense liberal talking point.
The issue is radical islamic terror

He has been a BRITISH CITIZEN much longer than he has followed Islam..

Maybe it is being British Born that made him a terrorist?

And yet Islam turned him from being a Peaceful British Citizen with no Criminal Record to a Dead Man who Murdered 22 People.

a reply to: Stevemagegod

And yet Islam turned him from being a Peaceful British Citizen with no Criminal Record to a Dead Man who Murdered 22 People.

no some _____ d up dick head, imam, fanatic, or other jihadist turned him. there are about 3 million muslims in the UK. most just like in the U.S. just want to go about their day with no problems.

stop spewing trash out your pie hole if you don't understand what's taking place.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Stevemagegod

And yet Islam turned him from being a Peaceful British Citizen with no Criminal Record to a Dead Man who Murdered 22 People.

no some _____ d up dick head, imam, fanatic, or other jihadist turned him. there are about 3 million muslims in the UK. most just like in the U.S. just want to go about their day with no problems.

stop spewing trash out your pie hole if you don't understand what's taking place.

This POS was radicalized by Islamic extremists. His parents came to England in the 1990's, refugees no less, and he grew up in a Muslim area of Manchester. He grew up in the same neighbourhood as Abdalraouf Abdallah who was convicted of funding terrorism and there are reports they knew each other. Abdullah is also the son of refugees that came to the UK in the 90's.

The area is known for others that have gone to fight for ISIS.

So a home grown terrorist, born to refugees some 20 odd years ago involved with a convicted terrorist, who was also the son of refugees...I guess if we flood the country with more refugees now, we can look forward to more kids being blown up in the next generation of "home grown" refugee children who never integrate and hang around with terrorists.

a reply to: UKTruth

So a home grown terrorist,

key words, home grown. not a recent refugee as the OP wanted to blame the left for letting him in. and back in the 80's and 90's countries all over the west were letting in lybian refuges fleeing Gaddafi.

and besides that how does your post counter what i said about some _____ d up dick head, imam, fanatic, or other jihadist turning him.

reads like you said the same thing.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: UKTruth

So a home grown terrorist,

key words, home grown. not a recent refugee as the OP wanted to blame the left for letting him in. and back in the 80's and 90's countries all over the west were letting in lybian refuges fleeing Gaddafi.

and besides that how does your post counter what i said about some _____ d up dick head, imam, fanatic, or other jihadist turning him.

reads like you said the same thing.

Son of refugees from as recent as the 90's - after the gulf war.

If we had never admitted those refugees to the country, 22 people including young children would be alive today. Add in that his convicted terrorist friend was also born to refugees who entered the country at the same time.

Home grown is irrelevant. We let in refugees and their children became terrorists. I wonder how many terrorists we are storing up for the next 20-30 years? I wonder what percentage of refugees and their children turn out as radicalised and what percentage is acceptable for people? How many dead children is acceptable vs our apparent need to take in refugees now?

originally posted by: PepeTalk

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: PepeTalk

I want people in western nations to stop getting killed and raped by unassimilated Muslims that hate their host country.

Do you think if western nations were to stop invading and stealing the resources of those Muslim nations then we wouldn't have such a problem with them? Like Ron Paul said they hate us because we are over there.

I hate to break it to you but they've hated us since the 7th century

I hate to break it to you but we haven't been around since the 7th century.

a reply to: UKTruth

Well, imagine that.

We both agreed that this was a tragedy and it was made even harder to swallow when it involved young children.

Yet here you are using those little kids as a tool for your own agenda.

Shameful.

You can love termites and treat them nicely and kind and they will still eat your house.

a reply to: UKTruth

Son of refugees from as recent as the 90's - after the gulf war.

Libya was not where the gulf war took place, that was in iraq and kuwait.
in fact libya, was never involved in it at all.

the reason why people fled libya in the 90's there was a attempted coupe and Gaddafi used his personal Revolutionary Guard Corps to attack any and everyone that voiced their opposition to him and even those that didn't.

He was born on British soil by a muslim mother from another country, and got a piece of paper saying he is a British citizen. That supposedly makes him a citizen.

Meaning of 'citizen': a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection.
www.dictionary.com...

By that official definition, I would say 'no', he was not a citizen.


Did he have the soul of a Brit? No. He still possessed the soulDNA of an Islamic terrorist, thereby, HE IS/WAS NOT A CITIZEN. These people need to have their citizenship stripped from them.

a reply to: queenofswords

also from your link,

an inhabitant of a city or town, especially one entitled to its privileges or franchises.

i'd say living there his whole 22 years of life and if he had a UK birth certificate he was a Uk citizen.

originally posted by: Xeven
You can love termites and treat them nicely and kind and they will still eat your house.

Those aren't termites they are carpenter ants. And of course they do jobs others won't do.

a reply to: dragonridr

Termites eat your house up too.