Here's Trump's Speech, Absolutely Amazing

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Dfairlite
Yea well, I don't agree with him pretty much putting a great deal of the regions instability on Iran, and basically isolating them as an enemy of the world. It really does not make sense, and yet I know exactly why it is done.

From this same event there was a 55+ nation commitment to create a sort of Arab NATO type thing with an initial 34,000 troops to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Like seriously, wtf?? Would this not be like a Muslim Army of sorts? Whatever it takes I guess. By doing some constructive analysis, I will lay out what I feel some of those actions mean to me.

The fact that there has been a commitment of tens of thousands of troops signed on paper, coupled with a recent massive weapons deal between Saudi and USA, two things come to mind.

The USA is going to reduce its actual physical footprint of its own equipment and personnel from the region. We will fall back to our bases in Iraq, Rojava, Afghanistan and Turkey and pretty much stay there. Stepping up to bat will be these 30,000+ regional troops who don't want to lose US support, so they pitched to purchase more than enough equipment to make up for what we are removing, and the training to go with it.

The plus is that perhaps maybe we can finally reduce our own defense budget and redirect to domestic needs.
So that is how I read this current event plus the weapons deal.
A subtle hint that we are removing ourselves from direct involvement from the region but empowering the regional manpower and selling them the equipment to make up for this tactical retreat of sorts.

I'll admit it was a great speech. Like you I don't like how all the blame is being put on iran. It's kind of funny how the US has been going after iran no mater who the president is.

The stuff you laid out here worldstarcountry is very optimistic almost to good to be true. I for one am going to hope that this is a turning point in the trump presidency and that every word of your reply is true.

Do good things like this trump but please please don't take my mothers healthcare away.

a reply to: FuggleHop

Trump is a master at speech and persuasion. Read Scott Adams (Dilbert Author) blog posts about Trump and speech/persuasion. Very insightful.

a reply to: Pyle

Absolutely. The approval numbers for the ACA have been pathetically low for seven straight years.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Muslims meh...Arabs and Oil - got to keep the PetroDollar going...otherwise the USA would actually have to pay their way in the world.

a reply to: Abysha

This is just laughable. Quit believing the doom and gloom peddled by the alarmists. The cost of treating diabetes is under the deductible of most plans offered on the exchanges.

I watched that speech and cannot understand how anyone would find it to be anything but ridiculous.

The guy is a babbling fool just like he babbled through his entire campaign.

WTF?, can't admit that maybe voting for him was a mistake?.

So I watched the speech again and aside from the few lies he told in the beginning I still say it's a good speech. And my democratic friends here lets be fair, even obama didn't tell the whole truth 100% of the time.

But man oh man if we aren't at war with iran by the end of the year after this, I will be very surprised.

a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

What was ridiculous about it? He went in front of a group of Muslim nations, told them to stop Islamic terrorism, and got applause. How is that anything short of amazing?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The petrodollar is less important now than it has ever been. As we take the lead role of top oil producer, it won't matter what currency people use to buy the oil from us.

The petrodollar was only important when we were beggars at the altar of the middle eastern oil cabal, OPEC.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I especially liked the "run them out...run them out of the planet" BLATHER.

Absolutely ridiculous nonsense as usual.

The moron really shouldn't be allowed to talk as he constantly makes himself sound so damned stupid.

Absolute nonsense.

a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Just curious, what were your thoughts on "Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall!"

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

What was ridiculous about it? He went in front of a group of Muslim nations, told them to stop Islamic terrorism, and got applause. How is that anything short of amazing?

Why on Earth is that amazing and not something he should be doing anyway. In reality he's just managed to sell billions of dollars of weapons with the known intention of threatening Iran - how is that amazing? At least he's changed his tune and no longer preaches about America being under the threat of Islam - I wonder if his acolytes on ATS will have a similar conversion and all the 'Muslims are bad people' threads will die down. Probably not.

FYI, Check the speech again, tell me where he uses the words Islamic and Terrorism next to each other - good luck with that.

a reply to: uncommitted

While he didn't say the phrase islamic extremist terrorism, he made it abundantly clear what he was talking about:

Muslim nations must be willing to take on the burden, if we are going to defeat terrorism and send its wicked ideology into oblivion.

But this future can only be achieved through defeating terrorism and the ideology that drives it.

Some estimates hold that more than 95 percent of the victims of terrorism are themselves Muslim.

A better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and extremists.

a reply to: uncommitted

Why on Earth is that amazing and not something he should be doing anyway.

Can you point me to a speech from a prior president (Bush or Obama) where they did this thing you suddenly consider a basic responsibility?

It's really hilarious how insane you lefties have become. If trump does something great that has been sorely lacking from our leadership, it's just a normal everyday thing (despite it not being) that deserves no praise. But if he does something that every incoming administration has done for 50 years (like firing and hiring new attorneys) then it's the world's biggest outrage. It makes you look pathetic.

a reply to: Dfairlite

So you agree, the phrase he used again and again and again on the campaign trail isn't one he used in front of the very people he used it against?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: uncommitted

Why on Earth is that amazing and not something he should be doing anyway.

Can you point me to a speech from a prior president (Bush or Obama) where they did this thing you suddenly consider a basic responsibility?

It's really hilarious how insane you lefties have become. If trump does something great that has been sorely lacking from our leadership, it's just a normal everyday thing (despite it not being) that deserves no praise. But if he does something that every incoming administration has done for 50 years (like firing and hiring new attorneys) then it's the world's biggest outrage. It makes you look pathetic.

Why do you have to resort to using phrases like 'lefties'? I don't know what you think was great. It was a strong speech, the script writer has every right to be proud. I'm not quite sure exactly what you are suggesting either Bush or Obama didn't do - tell Muslim countries to deal with ISIS, is that it? I'm not sure I'd agree with that. Did he go out of his way to make Iran a scapegoat? Some people have interpreted that.

I'm not sure either why you think I look pathetic - because I don't agree with you? Really?

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
I do like a great speech, Hitler was really good at them as well. Just saying.

You like some of Hitler's speeches?

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Dfairlite

So you agree, the phrase he used again and again and again on the campaign trail isn't one he used in front of the very people he used it against?

Well he used the term Islamic extremists instead of Islamic terrorists. Can you explain to me the difference since apparently you have decided there is a diffrence? I'd be interested in knowing how you think this was a point that needed to be made?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

No, we did that with innovation, like the internet. American Exceptionalism, its real. Love it, hate it, who cares.

a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Seriously, stop. You bring nothing constructive and all you ever do is crap all over the thread with, "well I think its stupud, just like his campaign". Yeah, we get it kid, you're angry and upset, GET OVER IT.