GREAT AGAIN: Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king

a reply to: seasonal

This isn't a story. This is a thread created to garner stars and flags because it's pro Trump.

Obama respects a culture, even the Saudi's, and I respect that. Did Trump grab the Saudi King and try to pull him in as he always does, you know like a complete douche?

You really think the Saudi leaders would have ever dared to cut a US president's, or any world leader for that matter, throat while they greeted one another? If so, that's dense.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Can we still be friends?

a reply to: Swills

Speak for yourself mr. 8000+ Starlett.

a reply to: seasonal

Good for Trump!

Good for the women who didn't wear the head scarves.

It sends quite a different message to everyone in the Middle east.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I hope it sends the message that blankets worn during high noon burn.

a reply to: Swills

Their people are the ones getting their throats cut-

And this is a story-you just don't like the content.

In Obama's defence, there was absolutely nothing wrong with bowing and it doesn't make him a coward at all.

But that still doesn't change the fact that Trump didn't.

Just two different types of characters and demeanors.

originally posted by: RisenMessiah
a reply to: TinySickTears

Can we still be friends?

message board acquaintances is the best i can muster
i only have 1 friend and no room for another

a reply to: DBCowboy

Exactly-

There is a difference in recognizing a culture and kowtowing to it.

The Saudi's culture is important so is the US's.

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: seasonal

Don't get me wrong; I think it's hilarious and awesome Trump didn't bow to him...

But I think we all know why Obama did and Trump didn't. Obama actually listens to briefings and researches a thing he's about to confront. Trump, on the other hand, has said repeatedly that he doesn't listen and that he's discovered the most elementary of foundations long after he's neck deep in a situation.

He probably just didn't even know it was a thing.

In Europe, one bows to royalty. It ranges from a simple court bow (head only) to a full right angle bow at the waist depending on rank and circumstances, but it is always a bow. In Arabia, depending on country, one may kiss the hand, the shoulder or even the nose of a prince, but it is always a kiss, never a bow.

Appreciating Arab Etiquette And Attitudes

a reply to: BlueAjah

So Trump was right?

a reply to: seasonal

After watching the Obama Vid-did he kiss the Kings hand?

It is forbidden in Muslim countries to bow to anyone other than God.
So actually, it should have been disgraceful when Obama bowed to the king.

Bowing in Islamic culture is almost entirely reserved for prayer. Muslims are instructed not to bow to any human regardless of authority -- even Muhammad would not allow people to bow to him. Bowing in reverence to another human is considered "shirk," which is a very serious sin in Islam.
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Bowing to Humans is Shirk

A fatwa, or non-binding religious ruling, by the late but esteemed Saudi cleric Abdullah Ibn Jibreen states plainly that bowing to a human, in most circumstances, is "shirk" -- a grave sin in Islam that means, in this case, to worship someone other than Allah. Allah alone is considered worthy of the type of reverence bowing indicates.

Bowing Etiquette in Islam

originally posted by: seasonal
I don't have a good reason to post this thread other than perhaps there is a difference in confidence between our or current and previous pres.

What a difference an election can make for the respect American leaders have for our country.

There were two very different outcomes when two American presidents greeted the king of Saudi Arabia.

www.theamericanmirror.com...
Trump meeting the King of Saudi Arabia, respectful and confident.

Barack Obama meeting the Saudi King, the bow seems over done and perhaps doting.

I think this may be a difference in how these 2 guys deal with people and leaders. One seems to be overly concerned about offending them and the other is respectful but firm.
And like it or not, body language is a huge thing when we live in suck a publicized world.

Obama has respect dignity and pride for other people's traditions because it's custom.Trump of course would not bow he does not respect woman his government, his party and his wife included...just like his supporters,no class ,no morals ,no dignity,just absolutely no respect for others.

One leader that deals with other nations with respect to costume and one that has no respect.So if you think he's a super badass rebel guy, a bad ass president of the world, who wouldn't bow down to no man blah blah well ,so be it.

If it's one thing i learned on this earth,certain people will stick by certain people because they are the same in so many ways.

'Deplorable is what deplorable does'

a reply to: ImmortalLegend527

Please read the post above yours, and a few above that.

It is NOT custom to bow to the Kind of Saudi Arabia.
Bowing to humans is actually a sin to Muslims.

a reply to: ImmortalLegend527



Nice objective post. Thanks

a reply to: introvert

Ya it's pretty funny..a few days ago I kept reading that was all Obamas doing
So many here are just stunned.

originally posted by: BlueAjah

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: seasonal

Don't get me wrong; I think it's hilarious and awesome Trump didn't bow to him...

But I think we all know why Obama did and Trump didn't. Obama actually listens to briefings and researches a thing he's about to confront. Trump, on the other hand, has said repeatedly that he doesn't listen and that he's discovered the most elementary of foundations long after he's neck deep in a situation.

He probably just didn't even know it was a thing.

In Europe, one bows to royalty. It ranges from a simple court bow (head only) to a full right angle bow at the waist depending on rank and circumstances, but it is always a bow. In Arabia, depending on country, one may kiss the hand, the shoulder or even the nose of a prince, but it is always a kiss, never a bow.

Appreciating Arab Etiquette And Attitudes

Daaaamn, you schooled me on that one. In that case, they both fail at it.

I'll give the Saudi greeting award to Trump.

But I think it would have been better if he just kicked the king in the balls.

I just might have cheered for Trump if he did.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Nifty me too.

I guess that means i can't save you. Bad luck dude.But I made a tribute to you.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: BlueAjah

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: seasonal

Don't get me wrong; I think it's hilarious and awesome Trump didn't bow to him...

But I think we all know why Obama did and Trump didn't. Obama actually listens to briefings and researches a thing he's about to confront. Trump, on the other hand, has said repeatedly that he doesn't listen and that he's discovered the most elementary of foundations long after he's neck deep in a situation.

He probably just didn't even know it was a thing.

In Europe, one bows to royalty. It ranges from a simple court bow (head only) to a full right angle bow at the waist depending on rank and circumstances, but it is always a bow. In Arabia, depending on country, one may kiss the hand, the shoulder or even the nose of a prince, but it is always a kiss, never a bow.

Appreciating Arab Etiquette And Attitudes

Daaaamn, you schooled me on that one. In that case, they both fail at it.

I'll give the Saudi greeting award to Trump.

But I think it would have been better if he just kicked the king in the balls.

I just might have cheered for Trump if he did.

Disgraceful, what did the king ever do to you or your country? Why are you people so nasty and evil..I mean like, what are you all,little demons or something?It's like your type of people just do not fit in the plans of what's holy and good on and for this earth.It's really obvious why the world hates people that act like your type,it's sad and un human to the world of peace.