U.S. government posts $182 billion surplus in April

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: schuyler

Then I hope you never once complained about the Obama's taking action or Obama himself playing golf.

Obama's "taking action."? Surely that's some sort of typo. The point is that complaining at this level is penny wise and pound foolish. It doesn't mean anything substantial. A President (ANY President) is never really "on vacation" until they leave office.

a reply to: Swills
Obviously, you do not understand the usefulness of failure/failing and how TPTB can spin it. Unlike BO, Trump's a good man. Only he's (Trump) just now learning what a FOBAR mess he's dealing with... The corruption is neck high in DC! It's beyond a "fair trial". I feel for my CnC. I really do.

Trump's federal hiring freeze may have contributed to this.
He also already had departments working on cutting spending.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Trump's federal hiring freeze may have contributed to this.
He also already had departments working on cutting spending.

Trump had nothing to do with it this is all Obama.

a reply to: SBMcG
Really? And you have, with your own eyes, seen this? Counted it all with your own hand?.. Or you read it somewhere? ... I'm not sure you grasp the reality of even what 1 Trillion, one's are. But if you do. Devide that up and give each American there "fair share". Then pull your liberal bs on me. I'll wait.

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: SBMcG
Really? And you have, with your own eyes, seen this? Counted it all with your own hand?.. Or you read it somewhere? ... I'm not sure you grasp the reality of even what 1 Trillion, one's are. But if you do. Devide that up and give each American there "fair share". Then pull your liberal bs on me. I'll wait.

Of course I haven't "seen it with my own eyes". Such a thing would be completely impossible.

And yes, I am quite sure that I "grasp the reality" of what a trillion is. I am well educated and routinely do very complicated math because of what I do for a living (land development).

What is a "fair share"? If I have much more than you, does that mean I do all the giving and you do all the taking?

Communist much?

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Trump's federal hiring freeze may have contributed to this.
He also already had departments working on cutting spending.

Trump had nothing to do with it this is all Obama.

How so? Obama had the worst growth record in history. His lousy idiotic policies led to 95 million eligible workers being out of the workforce. He doubled the national debt. He got our national credit downgraded TWICE. By any reasonable measure, Obama was a miserable failure economically.

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Trump's federal hiring freeze may have contributed to this.
He also already had departments working on cutting spending.

Trump had nothing to do with it this is all Obama.

Because Obama ran surpluses for 8 years... or he just figured it out after 8 years?

a reply to: Throes

Because he finally got the ball rolling 8 years later. That's how bad it was under Bush. Now Trump is just taking the credit.

a reply to: [post=22220163]SBMcG[/post
Land development is complicated math? I'm pretty sure they have GPS that would make your job easier and any idiot that can read a gps just as smart. Your job ain't like the actual educated "surveyors" of old. Trust me. I've served with "modern" "educated" Army officers that couldn't read a compus or a map. But could do what a gps told them. I digress...yawn! There is no such thing as "fair share"! But you bit! Hook, line and sinker.

originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Trump's federal hiring freeze may have contributed to this.
He also already had departments working on cutting spending.

Trump had nothing to do with it this is all Obama.

Because Obama ran surpluses for 8 years... or he just figured it out after 8 years?

Obama ran massive deficits every year of his failed presidency:

2009: $1,413 billion

2010: $1,294 billion

2011: $1,295 billion

2012: $1,087 billion

2013: $679 billion

2014: $485 billion

2015: $438 billion

2016: $587 billion

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: [post=22220163]SBMcG[/post
Land development is complicated math? I'm pretty sure they have GPS that would make your job easier and any idiot that can read a gps just as smart. Your job ain't like the actual educated "surveyors" of old. Trust me. I've served with "modern" "educated" Army officers that couldn't read a compus or a map. But could do what a gps told them. I digress...yawn! There is no such thing as "fair share"! But you bit! Hook, line and sinker.

That's nice.

Anyway, I've said my piece. We'll have to agree to disagree at this point.

a reply to: toysforadults

You're right. It was all Obama.

money.cnn.com...

"In terms of the average pace of GDP growth, this is the slowest expansion on record," says Lakshman Achuthan, co-founder of the Economic Cycle Research Institute.
The U.S. economy has only grown 2% a year since it bottomed out in June 2009. That's far below the typical growth in rosy times of over 4% a year that the U.S. has experienced since World War II. It's even below the rather sluggish rebound during President George W. Bush's tenure of 2.7%.

Even CNN couldn't spin this and they tried hard.

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Trump's federal hiring freeze may have contributed to this.
He also already had departments working on cutting spending.

Trump had nothing to do with it this is all Obama.

if that`s true then Obama had a really crappy financial plan because it took his plan 8 1/2 years to show a small surplus for just 1 month.
if you used obamas plan to run your personal finances you would have been homeless and bankrupt years ago.
the country is 20 trillion in debt we need a plan that`s going to give us a surplus more than 1 month every 8 1/2 years.

a reply to: Fools

This is what happens when Trump starts paying his taxes.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Throes

Because he finally got the ball rolling 8 years later. That's how bad it was under Bush. Now Trump is just taking the credit.

I'm no George W. Bush fan, but by just about every economic measure, Bush's economic record was far superior to Obama's. He gets blamed for the 2007/08 mortgage/financial mess, but he tried to head it off several times and was instrumental in keeping it from turning into a real disaster that would have made 1929 look like the good Old Days.

The fact is, the 2007/08 financial collapse was 100% the result of liberals in Congress (Maxine Waters and Barney Frank specifically) bullying lenders under the guise of the CRA to make millions of bad loans to their low income constituents (Democrats) with bad credit (Democrats) and little money for down payments (Democrats).

The Bush Administration WARNED CONGRESS several times about this practice -- most notably in a 2005 letter sent to the House Banking Committee, but to no avail.

While the liberal media, whom Bush let roll over him like a locomotive, spun the false narrative that the president was to blame for the mortgage mess, economists knew differently: it was completely the fault of leftists in Congress.

Still, even with the liberal-caused financial mess, Bush's economic numbers over his 8 years were far superior to Obama's.

Trump wins again, he really knows how to get stuff done.

The American people, all the ones Hillary spit on as she flew from coast to coast, love this stuff. Eight years of Trump is inevitable.

a reply to: [post=22220253]SBMcG[/post.

a reply to: SBMcG
And a good piece it was. I'm not disagreeing with you. So we agree to disagree.... Good times!

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Throes

Because he finally got the ball rolling 8 years later. That's how bad it was under Bush. Now Trump is just taking the credit.

This is comedy GOLD! "It's STILL Bush's fault!"