President Trump Fires James Comey

a reply to: Majic

Could be someone with a grudge for not getting extra scoop like Mr. President did.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: introvert

Every person I know -- left and right -- wanted Comey fired, at some point. I don't need any reason from Trump. I think Comey is a corrupt sleazebag.

Another logical fallacy. We're on a roll today.

Perhaps that's the problem. People, both Left and Right, got pissed at Comey when he did something they did not like, and failed to see the truths he brought and the integrity in which he did his job.

Think about that. Both sides wanted him gone. Maybe he was doing something right and all of you, both Left and Right, couldn't handle what you were being served.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: face23785
If you think Clinton shouldn't have faced charges, you are either outside your realm of knowledge or have more left political leanings than you realize.

So let me get this straight, if someone decides to follow the code of law as it is written, then they must be left leaning? What does that say about the right then? Assuming inverse logic.

I don't care what others here claim. I know what I did in the service, I know you cannot legally do what she did with classified info, and I don't need to have that shoveled to me by my favorite news source, I know it for a fact.

What you "did in the service" has no merit in this discussion. The discussion is litigious and unless you commit a crime in the Military, it is not.

You can twist all you want, but nothing you say will change that. She belongs in prison. What she did was highly illegal, and everyone who helped her do it belongs with her.

No, you can twist all you want, but you haven't the slightest idea what youre talking about.

You wanna talk about logical fallacies, thinking because someone wasn't charged means they're innocent is a bigtime logical fallacy and simply not based in reality. You sound like the brainless Clinton worshippers Mr. No Traditional Political Leanings

The only logical fallacy here is in thinking that anyone here who "claims to know" the working of S, and TS documentation would actually be on this site and actually making that claim. They would know better.

Yeah you're completely wrong on all of this. She did not follow the law as it is written, that's the whole problem. And millions of people hold security clearances. You think NONE of them are interested in the kind of discussions that happen here? That's the kind of logic you subscribe to? What I did absolutely does have merit, because the laws governing the handling of classified material do not change whether you're in the military or the State Department. Specific policies may change, as long as they are still in compliance with the law, but the laws they are based on apply equally across the board. I've seen people face more consequences for mishandling ONE Secret email. She mishandled numerous Confidential, Secret, AND TOP SECRET emails. And yes they were classified at the time, El Lord Comey revealed that himself. That alone was reason to charge her. Her excuse she didn't know doesn't matter. And the only way she wouldn't know is if she was so absurdly incompetent that she didn't belong in the position in the first place. No one at that level is simply unaware that you can't move classified documents on an unclassified system.

I've seen this play out a bunch of times here. Someone will post the laws she broke, you can read them for yourself, you won't be able to accept it because of your political bias, and claim it proves nothing and we are all liars and it's a GOP conspiracy. So yeah, any more uninformed opinions?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Xcathdra

No one debates that.

They just fail to understand it.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: introvert

Every person I know -- left and right -- wanted Comey fired, at some point. I don't need any reason from Trump. I think Comey is a corrupt sleazebag.

Another logical fallacy. We're on a roll today.

Perhaps that's the problem. People, both Left and Right, got pissed at Comey when he did something they did not like, and failed to see the truths he brought and the integrity in which he did his job.

Think about that. Both sides wanted him gone. Maybe he was doing something right and all of you, both Left and Right, couldn't handle what you were being served.

Truth and integrity? I am not sure, but were you saying that when he revealed the opening of the investigation again on October 27th 2106?

a reply to: Gin

It's CNN... who cares?

a reply to: TheRedneck

Actually, as far as his employees go, he IS pretty much an almighty dictator. Now, if you want to demand an explanation, that's fine... but Trump is not required to give it. You just get to vote him out in 2020 if you think he's doing a bad job.

If we get that vote, he is not a dictator. It is his right to fire people he is charged to lead, but it is my right to ask why.

Irony: I highly doubt any explanation would affect that vote, so what does he have to lose?

Not much, I suppose. He was not elected on character or leadership skills to begin with, so I suppose it wouldn't matter the next go-around.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: face23785

If you think Clinton shouldn't have faced charges, you are either outside your realm of knowledge or have more left political leanings than you realize.

Actually, I was almost spot-on with my assessment of the Clinton email issue. I will not be baited by such an ignorant ad hom.

I don't care what others here claim. I know what I did in the service, I know you cannot legally do what she did with classified info, and I don't need to have that shoveled to me by my favorite news source, I know it for a fact.

Yet another logical fallacy. I don't care what you did in the service. You could be lying for all I know.

You can twist all you want, but nothing you say will change that.

No need to twist. My assessment is corroborated by the fact she is not in jail, or in the courts.

You wanna talk about logical fallacies, thinking because someone wasn't charged means they're innocent is a bigtime logical fallacy and simply not based in reality. You sound like the brainless Clinton worshippers Mr. No Traditional Political Leanings

Another personal attack.

Let's stick to the topic and not let your emotions cloud your ability to effectively debate. I have no desire or time to trade punches with the immature.

You need to look up the definition of logical fallacy. And if you took that as a personal attack you're too thin skinned for this place. You were absolutely nowhere close to accurate on what you said about Clinton. See above. You don't know what you're talking about, you're another uninformed Clinton worshipper.

a reply to: face23785

I'm sorry. Where did the man himself say it?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: face23785
a reply to: Xcathdra

So you don't think the President works for the American people and his authority questioned?

Well, forgive me. I thought it was our job as responsible citizens to hold our leader's feet to the fire. Perhaps I should learn to lay down and become a sheep.

Requires less thought. Sounds amusing.

Way to only see what you want while making false claims about other people..

Typical but not surprising.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: introvert

Every person I know -- left and right -- wanted Comey fired, at some point. I don't need any reason from Trump. I think Comey is a corrupt sleazebag.

Another logical fallacy. We're on a roll today.

Perhaps that's the problem. People, both Left and Right, got pissed at Comey when he did something they did not like, and failed to see the truths he brought and the integrity in which he did his job.

Think about that. Both sides wanted him gone. Maybe he was doing something right and all of you, both Left and Right, couldn't handle what you were being served.

Truth and integrity? I am not sure, but were you saying that when he revealed the opening of the investigation again on October 27th 2106?

Yes. He did the right thing, regardless of how much the Left complained about it. He kept people informed and was honest.

a reply to: Gin

It's good to be the President.

Maybe Trump is playing this troll harder than we think.

What if he has people leaking these false stories to the big MSM outlets?

Just to let them spew more fake news.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: face23785

I'm sorry. Where did the man himself say it?

Its been provided to you several times now.. Read and stop derailing the thread with wilful ignorance.

a reply to: butcherguy

The more absurd the news coverage becomes, the more likely this seems.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: face23785

If you think Clinton shouldn't have faced charges, you are either outside your realm of knowledge or have more left political leanings than you realize.

Actually, I was almost spot-on with my assessment of the Clinton email issue. I will not be baited by such an ignorant ad hom.

I don't care what others here claim. I know what I did in the service, I know you cannot legally do what she did with classified info, and I don't need to have that shoveled to me by my favorite news source, I know it for a fact.

Yet another logical fallacy. I don't care what you did in the service. You could be lying for all I know.

You can twist all you want, but nothing you say will change that.

No need to twist. My assessment is corroborated by the fact she is not in jail, or in the courts.

You wanna talk about logical fallacies, thinking because someone wasn't charged means they're innocent is a bigtime logical fallacy and simply not based in reality. You sound like the brainless Clinton worshippers Mr. No Traditional Political Leanings

Another personal attack.

Let's stick to the topic and not let your emotions cloud your ability to effectively debate. I have no desire or time to trade punches with the immature.

You need to look up the definition of logical fallacy. And if you took that as a personal attack you're too thin skinned for this place. You were absolutely nowhere close to accurate on what you said about Clinton. See above. You don't know what you're talking about, you're another uninformed Clinton worshipper.

Sure. If you look at my history, you would see that I am not and was not a Clinton supporter. I came to my conclusions based on past legal precedence.

If you'd like to continue this discussion, I'd be glad to but find an actual point to discuss. Not going to waste my time with ad homs and logical fallacies.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: face23785
a reply to: Xcathdra

So you don't think the President works for the American people and his authority questioned?

Well, forgive me. I thought it was our job as responsible citizens to hold our leader's feet to the fire. Perhaps I should learn to lay down and become a sheep.

Requires less thought. Sounds amusing.

Way to only see what you want while making false claims about other people..

Typical but not surprising.

What false claims have I made?

Please, enlighten me.

originally posted by: introvert
I thought it was our job as responsible citizens to hold our leader's feet to the fire.

Partisans never hold their leaders' feet to the fire. It was so painful to behold under Obama, he was so protected from criticism...I know I grew apathetic.

I don't feel the left's outrage on this because they weren't outraged about a number of things Obama did that outraged me.

They fostered so much apathy, I don't know why anyone is surprised by it. I don't even really like Trump, but I am sure not going to get outraged by him firing Comey.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: face23785

I'm sorry. Where did the man himself say it?

Acknowledge this:

originally posted by: Majic
Straight from the horse's mouth:

Deputy AG Rosenstein: 'I'm not quitting,' didn't threaten to quit over Comey firing

Of course, we could choose to believe unnamed anonymous sources instead, but that's not, in my opinion, a path to enlightenment.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: introvert
I thought it was our job as responsible citizens to hold our leader's feet to the fire.

Partisans never hold their leaders' feet to the fire. It was so painful to behold under Obama, he was so protected from criticism...I know I grew apathetic.

I don't feel the left's outrage on this because they weren't outraged about a number of things Obama did that outraged me.

They fostered so much apathy, I don't know why anyone is surprised by it. I don't even really like Trump, but I am sure not going to get outraged by him firing Comey.

So, for you, this is all about neener-neener-neener mean girls middle school stuff? I get it. It's so sad that so few women ever outgrow that. "I know you are, but what am I?" So puerile and passive aggressive.

That was your attitude? Welp, serves ya right, then! I'm not bothered by your discomfort either! Not one iota. Schadenfreude.


Oh, and PS:
What was obama sheltered from? Trump's claims that he was a Muslim not even born here? Or allegations that his wife was a transgender, or an ape?
Who protected him from that?

What freaking "criticism" do you harbor about him? His trying to help everyone? His reluctance to go to war? His health care efforts?

What?